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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
    OK, I'll fix my statement. "I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing from bands that can't gain momentum because they suck."
  • static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    Haven't stepped foot in Chitown since 2016, Tejas since 1986. Hope nobody lives near a fertilizer warehouse.
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  • JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
    OK, I'll fix my statement. "I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing from bands that can't gain momentum because they suck."
    What did Pearl Jams last album sell?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    All shot by CNN pedophiles, proly. 
    I thought it was the Antifa, BLM, FBI crisis actors
  • ed243421
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    Kelly Slater?!?
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  • static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    All shot by CNN pedophiles, proly. 
    I thought it was the Antifa, BLM, FBI crisis actors
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    this was covered a few days ago. maybe you missed it. (or maybe it was in the NY thread, but I thought it was posted here as well)
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    this was covered a few days ago. maybe you missed it. (or maybe it was in the NY thread, but I thought it was posted here as well)
    I did not see it posted here but I may be mistaken. I did see the Joe Rogan video of him saying the N word. I know that was discussed in depth but I had never even seen the comments Neil made in the 80's. Wow. What a freakin hero.

  • JB16057 said:
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
    In what way does Neil Young ”hate gay people” ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    JB16057 said:
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
    So you’re saying Neil shouldn't go on Rogan and discuss anything scientific? 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    JB16057 said:
    this was covered a few days ago. maybe you missed it. (or maybe it was in the NY thread, but I thought it was posted here as well)
    I did not see it posted here but I may be mistaken. I did see the Joe Rogan video of him saying the N word. I know that was discussed in depth but I had never even seen the comments Neil made in the 80's. Wow. What a freakin hero.

    I hadn't seen them either until Spiritual Chaos posted it a bit ago. 

    not that I'm trying to excuse it, but to add a bit more context: (it seems to me like he's speaking societally rather than his own bigotry, based on the comments that followed, but again, maybe I'm giving him too much of the benefit of the doubt). And yes, he did support Reagan. But he switched. As an example, after 9/11, I supported Dubya and the war in Iraq. Once a friend educated me, I changed my tune. BIG TIME. 



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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
    So you’re saying Neil shouldn't go on Rogan and discuss anything scientific? 
    No. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy that Neil Young is leaving Spotify due to Joe Rogan spreading misinformation when Neil Young is doing the same thing in regards to GMOs. Not only that, there was the collage of Joe Rogan saying the N word. Neil has his own skeletons in the closet with his homophobic remark.

    I think it would be great if Neil went on Joe's show and they were able to discuss this instead of Neil throwing a tantrum. Neil is on youtube. Is he going to demand to be removed because of all the misinformation there? or how about Neil admits he is no scientist and has fueled the misinformation pandemic by spreading false GMO information himsel? Neil contributed to the anti science stance just a few years ago.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    standing up for something is throwing a tantrum now?
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    standing up for something is throwing a tantrum now?
    My words aren't worth arguing over. The point I'm making here is that everyone was up in arms on this message board in regards to Joe Rogan spreading misinformation and saying the N word. Yet when Neil spreads misinformation and uses slurs, this message board doesn't have much to say.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    JB16057 said:
    standing up for something is throwing a tantrum now?
    My words aren't worth arguing over. The point I'm making here is that everyone was up in arms on this message board in regards to Joe Rogan spreading misinformation and saying the N word. Yet when Neil spreads misinformation and uses slurs, this message board doesn't have much to say.
    I can't comment on the Monsanto stuff. I don't know enough about his reasons. But that comment? from 35 years ago? I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt after that much time has passed. And 1985 was the height of the conservative christian movement vilifying gay people for the evils of AIDS. a lot of fear and misinformation all over the place before the science was known. Rogan is spouting bullshit that is CONTRARY to the science known about covid. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
    So you’re saying Neil shouldn't go on Rogan and discuss anything scientific? 
    No. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy that Neil Young is leaving Spotify due to Joe Rogan spreading misinformation when Neil Young is doing the same thing in regards to GMOs. Not only that, there was the collage of Joe Rogan saying the N word. Neil has his own skeletons in the closet with his homophobic remark.

    I think it would be great if Neil went on Joe's show and they were able to discuss this instead of Neil throwing a tantrum. Neil is on youtube. Is he going to demand to be removed because of all the misinformation there? or how about Neil admits he is no scientist and has fueled the misinformation pandemic by spreading false GMO information himsel? Neil contributed to the anti science stance just a few years ago.
    What year did you stop using the word Neil used in 1985?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"