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Who Should Biden pick as his running mate?

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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,231
    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Looks like Whitmer is taking some heat from the conservative faction over her stay at home order.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/michigan-gov-whitmer-faces-fierce-backlash-over-strict-stay-home-n1182711
    The headline doesn't really tell the story. She's doing crazy stuff like not allowing Target to sell things like seeds, gardening equipment, baby car seats, or paint. If you have an in-state vacation house, you're not allowed to travel to it. It's hard enough to stay at home; if you don't give people some leeway they'll give it up altogether soon.
    I know. I read all of that. There has been a petition signed by several hundred thousand as well. It's an interesting stance and some of it I don't understand, but this could hurt her viability as a VP choice if she is imposing authoritarian type restrictions, even though the current dip shit  in chief just made himself out to be a dictator.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,058
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Looks like Whitmer is taking some heat from the conservative faction over her stay at home order.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/michigan-gov-whitmer-faces-fierce-backlash-over-strict-stay-home-n1182711
    The headline doesn't really tell the story. She's doing crazy stuff like not allowing Target to sell things like seeds, gardening equipment, baby car seats, or paint. If you have an in-state vacation house, you're not allowed to travel to it. It's hard enough to stay at home; if you don't give people some leeway they'll give it up altogether soon.
    I know. I read all of that. There has been a petition signed by several hundred thousand as well. It's an interesting stance and some of it I don't understand, but this could hurt her viability as a VP choice if she is imposing authoritarian type restrictions, even though the current dip shit  in chief just made himself out to be a dictator.
    I agree completely. If he's demanding things loosen up (even if it's too soon) and she's not allowing people to plant tomatoes, that's not a lesser-of-two-evils decision you want to force people into making.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    He’ll probably pick Harris. Maybe Klobuchar. 
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,726
    He’ll probably pick Harris. Maybe Klobuchar. 
    God I hope it’s the latter if it’s one of those two.  Partially because I think Amy is the better pick electorally (Biden will already have success with Harris’ base, Amy brings some midwestern support). Partially because I think she could be a fine-enough President if Biden keels over and dies. And lastly, because I cannot stand Harris. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    he needs to pick michelle obama.

    he needs an earthshaker. someone who will help to electify the base. i am sorry, i love most of the women listed. i want warren, or abrams, or harris, but i do not see klobuchar or the like exciting the base.

    what if he picks tulsi? someone to siphon moderates and republicans away from trump?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    he needs to pick michelle obama.

    he needs an earthshaker. someone who will help to electify the base. i am sorry, i love most of the women listed. i want warren, or abrams, or harris, but i do not see klobuchar or the like exciting the base.

    what if he picks tulsi? someone to siphon moderates and republicans away from trump?
    Klobuchar is underrated

    Tulsi is overrated 
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    he needs to pick michelle obama.

    he needs an earthshaker. someone who will help to electify the base. i am sorry, i love most of the women listed. i want warren, or abrams, or harris, but i do not see klobuchar or the like exciting the base.

    what if he picks tulsi? someone to siphon moderates and republicans away from trump?
    Tulsi’s repellent and says weird shit. They need to forget about pulling votes from trump and they have to go for high turnout, in particular with swing states. 
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Stacey Abrams (nearly won the Georgia governorship in 2018; The highest office she has ever held is the state House)
    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Looks like Whitmer is taking some heat from the conservative faction over her stay at home order.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/michigan-gov-whitmer-faces-fierce-backlash-over-strict-stay-home-n1182711
    The headline doesn't really tell the story. She's doing crazy stuff like not allowing Target to sell things like seeds, gardening equipment, baby car seats, or paint. If you have an in-state vacation house, you're not allowed to travel to it. It's hard enough to stay at home; if you don't give people some leeway they'll give it up altogether soon.
    Meh, nothing crazy that I’ve seen. Burger King drive thru packed, Home Depot packed ect.ect.
    I’m working even more overtime. Lots of leeway.

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,617
    That's part of the problem.
    Target shouldn't be packed.
    Don't go to the store unless you absolutely need to.

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,617
    Too many slow people.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Stacey Abrams (nearly won the Georgia governorship in 2018; The highest office she has ever held is the state House)
    That's part of the problem.
    Target shouldn't be packed.
    Don't go to the store unless you absolutely need to.


    I agree, but for some reason people seem to be pushing this narrative that the actions the governor took are draconian, I’m saying it seems to be in line with federal social distancing guidelines and what other states have done. No win situation for her it seems. 

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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,113
    he needs to pick michelle obama.

    he needs an earthshaker. someone who will help to electify the base. i am sorry, i love most of the women listed. i want warren, or abrams, or harris, but i do not see klobuchar or the like exciting the base.

    what if he picks tulsi? someone to siphon moderates and republicans away from trump?
    Tulsi’s repellent and says weird shit. They need to forget about pulling votes from trump and they have to go for high turnout, in particular with swing states. 

    I liked Tulsi early in the campaign. But after a few months I realized she honestly is not a democrat.

    I think Klobuchar would be a terrific running mate. Smart and down to earth with midwestern influence. But the democratic base is energized by having an African American on the ticket. Not sure Harris is on a par with Klobuchar. Maybe Val Demings cut hat presents a name recognition issue and I might have gotten her name wrong.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,058
    Hi! said:
    That's part of the problem.
    Target shouldn't be packed.
    Don't go to the store unless you absolutely need to.


    I agree, but for some reason people seem to be pushing this narrative that the actions the governor took are draconian, I’m saying it seems to be in line with federal social distancing guidelines and what other states have done. No win situation for her it seems. 
    If I'm in Target here in MA, there are no sections roped off. That seems insane. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    Elizabeth Warren
    He's not picking Tulsi...her whining about the DNC process won't do much good in the general.  What else does she have?  I suppose Russia could back off since they'd have pretty good coverage on both sides.

    I'll buy Klobuchar as a choice because she's from a swing state (that pains me to say) and she comes across as moderate/reasonable.  My favorite remains Warren, but people think of her as liberal and while she could pull in a few Bernie people, I don't think she helps with the moderates.  Harris makes sense in general, though she's from a state that the Dems don't need to sway.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    i am basing my picks on if something happens to joe while president. at his age it is possible that something could happen. bernie had a heart attack a few months ago, so anything is possible. i think warren, booker, michelle, harris, any of them would make a fantastic president.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,113
    OnWis97 said:
    He's not picking Tulsi...her whining about the DNC process won't do much good in the general.  What else does she have?  I suppose Russia could back off since they'd have pretty good coverage on both sides.

    I'll buy Klobuchar as a choice because she's from a swing state (that pains me to say) and she comes across as moderate/reasonable.  My favorite remains Warren, but people think of her as liberal and while she could pull in a few Bernie people, I don't think she helps with the moderates.  Harris makes sense in general, though she's from a state that the Dems don't need to sway.

    Warren might have a lower chance than Tulsi. Her governor is a republican and he would get to appoint a replacement before a special election is held, which is not required until 145 to 160 days after the vacancy. No way Biden hands a seat to the Rs for that duration nor risks having a special election where the democrat would be running against a sitting senator for a state that could vote for a Republican.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    i saw that both abrams and warren said that they would accept if biden were to offer. so that is reassuring. to me at least.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    i saw that both abrams and warren said that they would accept if biden were to offer. so that is reassuring. to me at least.
    I like Warren but her intellect and clear grasp of policy would just highlight Joe’s confusion. 
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
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    Andrew Cuomo (impossible because we live in a country where It is ok to say “no men”, but every day Cuomo demonstrates his poise and integrity in this crisis)
    I think he will pick Harris.  I feel like her early exit was done with a wink and a handshake.  She was the one tossing the "Biden is a racist" bombs early-on.  She will come into the fold and completely un-do that.  I thinks its lame and its all bullshit.  Phony reality show shit and identity politics... and I liked Harris in the first debate, but after that, I really dont want her near the white house.  He 'affirmative action'/equal pay initiatives she hinted at with punitive punishment for businesses turned me on her.  She will make a decent enough attack dog.

    I would give serious thought to Cuomo if he can get NY on autopilot dealing with Covid by then.  There is no hotter politician right now, and he seems like the complete antidote to Trump right now.  He was hated in NY, even by a lot of Democrats (much of it is unjustified and silly IMO), Republicans in NY hate him more than Obama, and the guy skyrocketed to like 88% approval including 70% of Republicans.  Covid will be THE issue this election, and so far, Cuomo has acquitted himself better than anybody.
    It seems clear that the path is there for Cuomo in 2024.  This way, Biden could have 1 term and step away.  


    but I guess he HAS to pick a female, and bonus points for one with darker skin.


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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,954
    Kamala Harris
    I would love to see Harris destroy Pence in a debate....she would disembowel him
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,756
    Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan governor)
    I would love to see Harris destroy Pence in a debate....she would disembowel him
    I'm not convinced he has any innards to disembowel. He stands there with the same blank stare and empty soulless eyes. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    I would love to see Harris destroy Pence in a debate....she would disembowel him
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    how about eric holder. or if you really want to make some heads explode, bill clinton. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    Elizabeth Warren
    I would love to see Harris destroy Pence in a debate....she would disembowel him

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