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BidenThe Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call.
If the polling showed the opposite results, I think you'd be singing a different tune today."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
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Bidenmickeyrat said:
CNN poll tonight has trump up 4.www.myspace.com0 -
Bidenmickeyrat said:
polls do not make results. voting does.
unless you are a republican where votes that go against you are simply fake and fraudulent."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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BidenOnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.0 -
BidenThe JugNogler said:gimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call.
If the polling showed the opposite results, I think you'd be singing a different tune today.0 -
Bidenmrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.Scio me nihil scire
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Bidenmrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
trump candidates are not doing very well at this point in time tonight.
like i said, polls do not make the results. voters do.Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Bidenstatic111 said:mrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
I didn't know that was called already. If that's right, HUGE.0 -
Bidengimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
trump candidates are not doing very well at this point in time tonight.
like i said, polls do not make the results. voters do.
And I agree, it's voters. We've had a consistent theme of D's going 5 points above the polling.Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
Bidenbeshear flipped letcher county. a county trump won by nearly 60 points.
this is bad news for the gop."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Bidenmrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
trump candidates are not doing very well at this point in time tonight.
like i said, polls do not make the results. voters do.
And I agree, it's voters. We've had a consistent theme of D's going 5 points above the polling."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Bidenmrussel1 said:static111 said:mrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
I didn't know that was called already. If that's right, HUGE.Scio me nihil scire
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Bidenstatic111 said:mrussel1 said:static111 said:mrussel1 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
I think tonight is a big deal. If D's perform well or over-perform, it will prove yet again that the polls are under-counting D support. So let's see how tonight goes. If it's a good night, people will quiet down about Biden. If R's win the night, the pressure on Team Biden will be huge.
And Andy Brashear may be your next D candidate for president after tonight. This could be a very important evening.
I didn't know that was called already. If that's right, HUGE.
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BidenLooking good VA Democrats. Earned at least a split of the Senate with at least one more looking locked in. Could win as many as 52 in the House. This is looking good too. I expected to retain the Senate and the Delegates to stay with the R. Good chance the D's win back both. This would seriously damage Youngkin's aspirations. He put all of his chips in on winning both chambers. He campaigned like crazy and was all over tv.0
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Well, despite the great news coming out of Virginny, Ohio and Kentucky and knowing Mississippi ain’t changing in my lifetime, when Brandon loses the election, he should just claim it was rigged, refuse to leave the White House and call forth all the BLM’ers and Antiiiiiifa to storm the capitol and prevent the certification of the electoral college vote. That’d be acceptable, right?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Bidengimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call.
If the polling showed the opposite results, I think you'd be singing a different tune today.
Last night showed polling being relatively on point with voter's preferring dem polices verses republicans' and we've seen that play out over the last few years.
The issue dems need to work on is Biden himself. You can see that in the polling that has a generic dem soundly defeating Trump while Biden is essentially tied or down to him.
But the fact that voters prefer dem policies shows that this is a problem they can correct over the next year. I would not ignore negative polling, that is a recipe for disaster. I would, instead, use it as a wake up call.www.myspace.com0
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