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Bidenfuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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BidenOnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
There are so many unknowns that lie ahead including multiple wars, a possible recession, easing of inflation, and multiple criminal trials of the republican nominee that could easily land him in prison.
This time in 2011 Romney led most polling as well. However, I am less confident today than I was four years ago at the same time.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Bidenmickeyrat said:fuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf.
I don't think there's ever been this many variables at play as there will be in this upcoming election...and that is saying something after 2020.
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BidenThe Juggler said:mickeyrat said:fuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf.
I don't think there's ever been this many variables at play as there will be in this upcoming election...and that is saying something after 2020.
100% pure unadulterated chaos awaits us in the next 12 months.ok. most polling is done by targeting actual voters/likely voters , no?Whole lot of Gen Z/Millenials haven't exactly established voting habits, no?How much stock can we honestly put in these when they have been so fucking wrong, so consistently?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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BidenMerkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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BidenI just saw a Facebook memory of my post from three years ago and shit like this still continues to amaze me.
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Bidenmickeyrat said:The Juggler said:mickeyrat said:fuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf.
I don't think there's ever been this many variables at play as there will be in this upcoming election...and that is saying something after 2020.
100% pure unadulterated chaos awaits us in the next 12 months.ok. most polling is done by targeting actual voters/likely voters , no?Whole lot of Gen Z/Millenials haven't exactly established voting habits, no?How much stock can we honestly put in these when they have been so fucking wrong, so consistently?www.myspace.com0 -
BidenThe Juggler said:mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:mickeyrat said:fuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf.
I don't think there's ever been this many variables at play as there will be in this upcoming election...and that is saying something after 2020.
100% pure unadulterated chaos awaits us in the next 12 months.ok. most polling is done by targeting actual voters/likely voters , no?Whole lot of Gen Z/Millenials haven't exactly established voting habits, no?How much stock can we honestly put in these when they have been so fucking wrong, so consistently?
they certainly were last year. red wave anyone?
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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OnWis97 said:Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
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BidenMerkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.Exactly! Biden is only three years older than Trump and in much better physical and mental shape.So here's a thought to keep in mind over the next year. In the worst case scenario in which Trump beats Biden, I will convince the governors of California, Oregon, and Washington, to secede from the U.S. and form a separate country. California's economy alone is strong enough to support a new country. The ass-hat MAGATS who live in these west coast states will lose their shit and move to red states. That will leave plenty of room and housing for all American citizens who have not lost their minds and are not Trump fans. We will welcome these sane citizens with open arms. We have two very large mountain ranges that will conveniently form a good solid barrier between us and the C.U.S.A. (Crazed United States of America).Keep us in mind. We care about you more than Trump ever will. He only cares for himself, and his followers are hopelessly insane."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Bidenmickeyrat said:The Juggler said:mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:mickeyrat said:fuck these polls.seriously. who conducted them? what questions were asked. how were the questions asked. how respondents were contacted.we just accept tesults withoit knowing pertinent information?wtf.
I don't think there's ever been this many variables at play as there will be in this upcoming election...and that is saying something after 2020.
100% pure unadulterated chaos awaits us in the next 12 months.ok. most polling is done by targeting actual voters/likely voters , no?Whole lot of Gen Z/Millenials haven't exactly established voting habits, no?How much stock can we honestly put in these when they have been so fucking wrong, so consistently?
they certainly were last year. red wave anyone?
My larger point is to not just close your eyes and pretend the polling isn't what it is. That is what maga has done for the last 6 years to their detriment.www.myspace.com0 -
BidenOnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Bidengimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
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BidenThe Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Bidengimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.Good point. How many young people have home land lines? Almost none. The only people with land lines these day are outdated old farts and codgers.Oh... wait... I still have a land line. 🫣
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Bidengimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call.
If the polling showed the opposite results, I think you'd be singing a different tune today.www.myspace.com0 -
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BidenThe Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:The Juggler said:gimmesometruth27 said:OnWis97 said:If the election were held today, Trump beats Biden pretty easily. I know Biden's old (but, hey, who isn't in this election?) but that this is even possible, much less likely, says something about who America is today.
Part of me thinks the best way to serve his country right now is for Joe to say "time for me to retire. I won't be running for re-election." The only hesitancy I have is that the Dems don't really have any good candidates waiting on the bench. That said, someone under 80 that isn't a retread of the past 15 years might have a chance to beat the polarizing wannabe autocrat.
you are looking at polls taken by calling home phones of just over 3000 people. nobody has home phones anymore so the sample is completely flawed.
i still say polls a year out, calling old people who sit at home all day and have home phones that watch fox news, are probably not the most reliable indicator of where our body politic is at any given moment. that is not the reality we live in today. most people do not have home phones, and most people do not actually answer the phone when strange phone numbers call.
If the polling showed the opposite results, I think you'd be singing a different tune today.
This most recent poll seems to be trying to push dems to force Biden out when they have no contingency plan. I think that is a terrible idea and would play right in to republican hands. Trump doesn't win shit. I can't say that with 100% accuracy, but I do say it with high confidence. I live in a red rural area and my neighbors are gonna vote red no matter who, even Trump. I don't think Trump or Biden have gained voters, which seems absurd, at least for Biden, but neither has bled many voters either so it's basically a repeat.
I don't want old man Biden another 4 years, but I don't think he's doing anything not to get elected.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
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