Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

Merkin Baller · November 2020

mickeyrat said:

Merkin Baller said:

Trump & his base have been crying about non existent voter fraud for some time now. They put together a voter integrity commission to uncover all the voter fraud in this country & came up w/ jack shit.

https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

Voter fraud is a myth, don’t believe the bullshit.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/11/01/1011519/election-voter-fraud-claims-bad-science-polling/

but there IS ballot fraud...

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-operative-faces-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud

There have been random incidents like this, sure, but the massive fraud that people are alleging that is swinging the race to Biden simply doesn’t exist; it’s just the latest GOP boogeyman used to scare people, like ms13, antifa, the soros funded caravans, hunter’s laptop etc.

How many fucking scams do people have to have pushed on them before they realize the people pushing them are scam artists?

PJNB · November 2020

Poor Trump having another meltdown on Twitter.

Spiritual_Chaos · November 2020

I'm sitting this one out

SNL sketch or FOX News?

https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/1324881304849178628?s=20

Halifax2TheMax · November 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.

Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?

What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?

I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.

So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?

“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.

the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.

“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer of California joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877
...

It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?

...

yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.

there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.

I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.

Halifax2TheMax · November 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

AZ and GA staying blue overnight (GA expanded more than expected) is such a huge deal imo. Trump can bitch and moan all he wants about PA and NV. Proving those two red states have voter fraud too is going to be next to impossible. I guess that is why he has to go deeper into WI and MI to make his point but those gaps in those states are so large it will amount to nothing.

Yeah thanks for that. An hour ago I had intended to post the good overnight news from GA but that post from mace brought back bad memories from 2000 2004 and 2016 elections when Dems had to bite the bullet for the good of the country and we get to look at 5 justices serving life terms now because those elections.

We need Biden to pick up another 40,000 margin today and not lose too much on the same day provisionals in PA. The health of the nation needs a solid margin out of PA.

edit, to clarify, and for fairness, the elections are run by the state executive branch(governors ) and both PA and NV are democrats. Also Clark county NV is run by Dems.

And none of the repubs are whining about what they pulled in Tejas with limiting one ballot drop off box per county, instead characterizing it as voting is easy, you have plenty of time, what’s the big deal, etc. Yup, fuck the “other,” particularly the “dem other.” Shit hole country.

Lerxst1992 · November 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.

Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?

What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?

I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.

So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?

“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.

the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.

“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer of California joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877
...

It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?

...

yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.

there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.

I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.

What’s incredible is how Ohio 2004 has been basically forgotten by most Americans. And we have no evidence of purposeful fraud now and Biden could win by five states, not one.

Lerxst1992 · November 2020

PJNB said:

Poor Trump having another meltdown on Twitter.

Twitter needs to put a 10 minute delay on trumps tweets so they can post the facts that readers must click thru to read anything he tweets.

Jearlpam0925 · November 2020

Biden

Yeah Ohio is longer a swing state. It's red.

MayDay10 · November 2020

Biden

So are we getting a new president today?

PJNB · November 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.

Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?

What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?

I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.

So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?

“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.

the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.

“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer of California joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877
...

It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?

...

yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.

there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.

I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.

What’s incredible is how Ohio 2004 has been basically forgotten by most Americans. And we have no evidence of purposeful fraud now and Biden could win by five states, not one.

It is incredible. People are able to push aside democracy to own the libs and win at any cost.

Merkin Baller · November 2020

Posted something similar to this yesterday... the GOP shot down early ballot counting in PA... they knew more people would be voting by mail, they knew it would take longer to count the ballots, they wanted this chaos in the days after the election... this isn’t an accident.

https://couriernewsroom.com/2020/11/04/pa-ballot-delay/

One of the two political parties has gone above & beyond to fuck up this election & it isn’t the democrats, but sure, let’s entertain conspiracies about ballot counting machines.

PJNB · November 2020

MayDay10 said:

So are we getting a new president today?

Gotta be today. PA will stretch beyond the 0.5% that was said to be needed to make the call.

I am really hoping NV is able to be called today first. If every major news network calls it and Fox does not that will be a bad look on them since if they did call NV they would then have to be the first to call Biden the president elect. (along with AP). That would be the cherry on top of this whole debacle Fox making the call. They would put an asterisk on it of course with them supporting the fraud charges and I doubt they would even say president elect as the early memos hinted at.

Halifax2TheMax · November 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

mace1229 said:

RiotZact said:

Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.

Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?

What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?

I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.

So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?

“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.

the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.

“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, Senator Barbara Boxer of California joined Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral College votes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877
...

It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?

...

yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.

there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.

I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.

What’s incredible is how Ohio 2004 has been basically forgotten by most Americans. And we have no evidence of purposeful fraud now and Biden could win by five states, not one.

And 44 million missing emails regarding Ohio and the run up to the Iraq War. Buh, buh, buh Hillary’s emails. The party of hypocrisy and lawlessness wrapped in an American flag sandwiched between two bibles and an abortion motivated by fear of the “other.”

MayDay10 · November 2020

Biden

This whole thing just enters a new, and kind of frightening phase once it gets called

Merkin Baller · November 2020

I mean... how can anyone take this seriously?

"It's funny that we rush to judgment, we want to get this election over with, but if there is election fraud, which everyone accuses or says there wasn't, or if there were these irregularities, we need to pursue them," said Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.

Asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier if the country would soon see evidence of Trump's allegations of fraud, McDaniel said: "You know Bret, we're working on that. And that's why I'm saying, give us time."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524837-trump-allies-pledge-fight-in-election-as-some-acknowledge-possible-defeat

Spiritual_Chaos · November 2020

I'm sitting this one out

https://twitter.com/bensolosmiles/status/1325072782380642305?s=20

mrussel1 · November 2020

Biden

Merkin Baller said:

I mean... how can anyone take this seriously?

"It's funny that we rush to judgment, we want to get this election over with, but if there is election fraud, which everyone accuses or says there wasn't, or if there were these irregularities, we need to pursue them," said Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.
Asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier if the country would soon see evidence of Trump's allegations of fraud, McDaniel said: "You know Bret, we're working on that. And that's why I'm saying, give us time."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524837-trump-allies-pledge-fight-in-election-as-some-acknowledge-possible-defeat

"There's definitely fraud.. now just give us two weeks weeks to find it."

Merkin Baller · November 2020

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

I mean... how can anyone take this seriously?

"It's funny that we rush to judgment, we want to get this election over with, but if there is election fraud, which everyone accuses or says there wasn't, or if there were these irregularities, we need to pursue them," said Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.
Asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier if the country would soon see evidence of Trump's allegations of fraud, McDaniel said: "You know Bret, we're working on that. And that's why I'm saying, give us time."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524837-trump-allies-pledge-fight-in-election-as-some-acknowledge-possible-defeat

"There's definitely fraud.. now just give us two weeks weeks to find it."

The fraud is coming from inside the (white) house.

Halifax2TheMax · November 2020

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

I mean... how can anyone take this seriously?

"It's funny that we rush to judgment, we want to get this election over with, but if there is election fraud, which everyone accuses or says there wasn't, or if there were these irregularities, we need to pursue them," said Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.
Asked by Fox News anchor Bret Baier if the country would soon see evidence of Trump's allegations of fraud, McDaniel said: "You know Bret, we're working on that. And that's why I'm saying, give us time."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524837-trump-allies-pledge-fight-in-election-as-some-acknowledge-possible-defeat

"There's definitely fraud.. now just give us two weeks weeks to find it."

It’s hiding under the health care plan but shhhhhhhhh, let them find it.

rgambs · November 2020

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/bensolosmiles/status/1325072782380642305?s=20

Black America has saved us, there's no doubt about that.
In an example of classic Republican racism, take a look at the demographics of the places where they are making allegations of fraud and the demographics of places where he is losing but not making allegations of fraud...

Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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