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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,057
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
    The state election agency confirmed it. I would have used another source, but oddly I haven’t found it on CNN
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited November 2020
    Haha. Priceless.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0&app=desktop

    Obviously he misspoke. Doesn’t make it less funny.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
    The state election agency confirmed it. I would have used another source, but oddly I haven’t found it on CNN

    From the same story on Fox News:


    “It’s natural to wonder whether similar problems could have occurred in other jurisdictions that use the same machine. Fortunately, even if the county hadn’t noticed, this would have been caught and corrected during Michigan’s normal canvassing procedures, when they compare the results to the paper tapes from the machines,” he added.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I ran out to the store for a few things and while shopping, overheard these two guy talking.  One guy told the other, "I like your hat."  (How did I guess it was a Trump hat.  Well, this is Hell Dorado County, after all.)  From there it went to these guys talking about how "Biden won by cheating" and how  "it isn't over in Pennsylvania- a lot of those votes are phony".  Finally, one of them said, "We just have to keep hoping, keep praying."

    Well, OK, their guy lost.  Sure, they're going to be upset.  I had to keep that in mind.  But "won by cheating".  I wanted to say, "Come on, dudes..." but kept my mouth shut.   And what is this about "keep praying"?  Pray for Trump's soul?  Pray that a godless, selfish, cheating, lying, self-absorbed, hateful man will... what?  Win anyway?  Or change his ways and stop being so evil?

    I don't understand these people.  Not one bit. 
    trump's spiritual advisor, ladies and gentlemen:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmMUmLYT1Y

    watch till the end. it's like she chanting in some foreign tongue

    Interesting theater.  To bad her needle got stuck and messenger boy couldn't find an exit. 

    That was stra-a-ange!
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    Biden
    Now mark meadows has covid
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    RiotZact said:
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
    The state election agency confirmed it. I would have used another source, but oddly I haven’t found it on CNN

    From the same story on Fox News:


    “It’s natural to wonder whether similar problems could have occurred in other jurisdictions that use the same machine. Fortunately, even if the county hadn’t noticed, this would have been caught and corrected during Michigan’s normal canvassing procedures, when they compare the results to the paper tapes from the machines,” he added.
    So they admit it happened and the excuse is “don’t worry, we would have caught it if you hadn’t.” 
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
    The state election agency confirmed it. I would have used another source, but oddly I haven’t found it on CNN

    From the same story on Fox News:


    “It’s natural to wonder whether similar problems could have occurred in other jurisdictions that use the same machine. Fortunately, even if the county hadn’t noticed, this would have been caught and corrected during Michigan’s normal canvassing procedures, when they compare the results to the paper tapes from the machines,” he added.
    So they admit it happened and the excuse is “don’t worry, we would have caught it if you hadn’t.” 
    Seems like a reasonable response since every state has procedures and protocols to certify its vote. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    Biden
    Almost 29,000 in PA. 
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Biden
    Because they're desperate. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,057
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post
    The state election agency confirmed it. I would have used another source, but oddly I haven’t found it on CNN
    Re reading story and it seems like an election official caught it and passed the news that other precincts that used this software should check for errors.  Sounds like proper election protocol not conspiracy.  That happened on a few machines in Texas where if people voted joe the machine would count a trump vote. People called it out and the offending machines were locked out. This is another reason for archaic paper ballots or at least receipts of some kind that you can double check before officially submitting
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-issue-undercounted-trump-votes/amp/

    This is unsettling.
    Two things here lead me to believe this is fake news...Republican Party and New York Post

    undercounted ONLY fucksticks votes?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,057
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
    If they haven’t double checked it how did they catch it?
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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 327
    Biden

  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
    What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so? 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
    perhaps because we aren't clise to certified official results?


    counting is still going on in many places. called states are largely projections
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  • mace1229
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    edited November 2020
    RiotZact said:
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
    What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so? 
    I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting.  So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    RiotZact said:
    Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion. 
    Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s  going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error. 
    Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
    If they haven’t double checked it how did they catch it?
    Yes, A few hours ago when the election was Tuesday. Same comments as above.

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