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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,599
    Biden
    One last hurdle.  Obviously the votes aren’t there to overturn the election.  So does Pence go for it with this notion that the Vice President gets to decide everything?

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,847
    Biden
    Not even 1%.  I am comfortable saying no chance.  Its over.  It has been over.  All this is political theater by guys trying to fight for trump's scraps and nothing more
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Biden
    either trump is a fucking moron and believes pence has the power or he's just saying "i hope he comes through for us" so he has another person to throw under the bus when he loses for a 472nd time. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Biden
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,685
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,723
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    A former repub house member was advocating for impeachment even after they’re out of office so at the least the US could claim there are consequences for anti-democratic behavior by elected officials. But, ‘Murica.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    A former repub house member was advocating for impeachment even after they’re out of office so at the least the US could claim there are consequences for anti-democratic behavior by elected officials. But, ‘Murica.
    Shithole cuntry.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,685
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    A former repub house member was advocating for impeachment even after they’re out of office so at the least the US could claim there are consequences for anti-democratic behavior by elected officials. But, ‘Murica.
    F impeachment, I want to see people go to jail. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,723
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    A former repub house member was advocating for impeachment even after they’re out of office so at the least the US could claim there are consequences for anti-democratic behavior by elected officials. But, ‘Murica.
    F impeachment, I want to see people go to jail. 
    That too. Think Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat was smart enough to have multiple passports?
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Biden
    "My father won the election!"


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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Biden
    Problem SOLVED!

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,685
    edited January 2021
    lol


  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,599
    Biden
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    Moscow Mitch can't force Biden to hire a soft AG. Biden needs to hire someone that's going to uncover everything and go after the truth (and, by extension, the administration and much of the party).  The Dems need to get nasty, now. It's important that the blatant criminal activity be punished so hopefully the next GOP administration isn't a treasonous mafia operation.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,723
    ikiT said:
    "My father won the election!"


    And swept in repub control of all three branches of government for generations to come! How’s that fruit from the poisonous tree tasting? Where’s spiking the football guy? Too bad CYA Barr doesn’t have a 4 pager synopsis of how all these elections were stolen, eh?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    Moscow Mitch can't force Biden to hire a soft AG. Biden needs to hire someone that's going to uncover everything and go after the truth (and, by extension, the administration and much of the party).  The Dems need to get nasty, now. It's important that the blatant criminal activity be punished so hopefully the next GOP administration isn't a treasonous mafia operation.
    my vote for AG would be Hillary. 

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,343
    edited January 2021
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the fact that trump and pence had lunch yesterday trying to look at ways pence could delay or stop the certification is tantamount to conspiracy to commit treason. 
    If there are no consequences for this bullshit I'm going to lose my fucking mind. 
    Moscow Mitch can't force Biden to hire a soft AG. Biden needs to hire someone that's going to uncover everything and go after the truth (and, by extension, the administration and much of the party).  The Dems need to get nasty, now. It's important that the blatant criminal activity be punished so hopefully the next GOP administration isn't a treasonous mafia operation.
    my vote for AG would be Hillary. 

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


    Funny but nope it's  Merrick Garland


    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Biden
    just as good. awesome. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,599
    Biden
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    edited January 2021
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    i've never watched it until now. and hopefully never will again. until this year, i didn't even know this was the process. i'm guessing many of trump's "patriots" also had no clue. and maybe still don't. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,064
    Biden
    Its OFFICIAL

    Live updates: Pence declares Biden winner of the presidential election after Congress counts electoral votes
    By John Wagner, Felicia Sonmez, Mike DeBonis, Karoun Demirjian, Amy B Wang, Colby Itkowitz and Paulina Firozi

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/06/congress-electoral-college-vote-live-updates/



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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,809
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    i've never watched it until now. and hopefully never will again. until this year, i didn't even know this was the process. i'm guessing many of trump's "patriots" also had no clue. and maybe still don't. 
    Nah, the same guy from shop class that was an epidemiologist most of this year was also secretly a constitutional lawyer. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,098
    Biden
    Was Pennsylvania or any other states debated?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,809
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Was Pennsylvania or any other states debated?
    PA
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,849
    Biden
    to our non-american friends, i apologize. our elections are not usually as chaotic as this one.

    this one was pretty lit tho.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,599
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Was Pennsylvania or any other states debated?
    Arizona 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,343
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    It's in the Constitution that it takes place on the 6th day of January. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,599
    Biden
    Bentleyspop said:
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    It's in the Constitution that it takes place on the 6th day of January. 
    I’m aware of that.  It’s just so long, dragged-out, and tedious.  
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,985
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    It's in the Constitution that it takes place on the 6th day of January. 
    I’m aware of that.  It’s just so long, dragged-out, and tedious.  
    With the benefit of retrospect, and now seeing Trump go about things, it's pretty dumb that the election occurs, and then the new president takes office over three months later. Look at it from both perspectives. Imagine losing your job, but being expected to stick around for three months to help the new guy transition into your job? Or, imagine being someone who got hired for a job, but has to wait three months. Now sometimes that is the case; maybe you'll be subjected to background checks or training in the time between being hired and beginning work. But rarely will the guy you're replacing have the opportunity to undermine you as you're transitioning in.

    Of course, these are Trump-specific problems. The most recent one-term presidents (Bush Sr. and Carter) didn't act like this towards the guy that beat them. Most people wouldn't. But if Trump can be president, anybody can, so something like this could happen again. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,441
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    OnWis97 said:
    What an incredible election process we have. I imagine this is the first time that this ceremony has ever been televised with the possible exception of C-SPAN. How tedious, and only two months after the election.
    It's in the Constitution that it takes place on the 6th day of January. 
    I’m aware of that.  It’s just so long, dragged-out, and tedious.  
    With the benefit of retrospect, and now seeing Trump go about things, it's pretty dumb that the election occurs, and then the new president takes office over three months later. Look at it from both perspectives. Imagine losing your job, but being expected to stick around for three months to help the new guy transition into your job? Or, imagine being someone who got hired for a job, but has to wait three months. Now sometimes that is the case; maybe you'll be subjected to background checks or training in the time between being hired and beginning work. But rarely will the guy you're replacing have the opportunity to undermine you as you're transitioning in.

    Of course, these are Trump-specific problems. The most recent one-term presidents (Bush Sr. and Carter) didn't act like this towards the guy that beat them. Most people wouldn't. But if Trump can be president, anybody can, so something like this could happen again. 
    i've been saying this for years. in a parliamentary system, you win the election, you're PM immediately. next day. 

    it has never made sense to me to allow the loser to remain for 3 months. absolutelyt bizarre. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,847
    Biden
    under normal circumstances, functioning adults with some sense of duty and responsibility execute the transition.

    There are a lot of moving parts to a transition.  Lots of preparation, staff, etc.  There are also the number of procedural hurdles to certify/verify the election.  

    With that said, I would love the whole process to be shrunk down.  The presidential election shouldnt take 2+ years.
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