Seat Confirmations - Week of Jan. 27

sk8drchik

kotton_crown said:

DZ153527 said:

kotton_crown said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tdawe said:

mpedone said:

hihobibo said:

Saltzy23 said:

mcgruff10 said:

I don't understand why they don't release the ticket info to all since it seems like everything is in place.

It's absurd.

The F2F marketplaces should all be up as well.

There is literally no reason to keep waiting.  Not so that they know where they are sitting as much as opening up the marketplaces to allow people to start posting and buying if they are looking.

I do not understand why we need to wait until mid-late February to be able to buy any secondary tickets for any shows that are not NYC or CO.

The wait should be there. It seems so many people are ready to SELL on the exchange right now than buy. But why? We were only offered the tickets a couple weeks ago. Don't put in if you aren't going to go. This site now gives everyone an out, so they can get the thrill of winning the lottery, but then change their mind about flying across the country to actually go. The rumors thread was accurate for a few weeks ahead of the announcement, enough time to prepare plans in case you won. 

I think a lot of people are hoping to get tickets to MSG and/or Baltimore (and all the others, obviously) via the F2F exchange. Way more than are eager to sell.

I've explained this too many times now in another thread but there are no going to be tickets available for MSG on the F2F exchange. Apparently some Redditor was told by TM that they weren't setting it up in the first place, but even if they do there won't be any tickets on it.

For the non-transferable shows, including Baltimore, I have a theory that scalpers bought up tickets like they would for any other show without really understanding how non-resellable they would be. There are some listed on second- or third-tier resale websites proposing sketchy arrangements involving sales of TM account passwords and whatnot, but I doubt they'll find many takers for those and in any event there don't seem to be as many listings as you would expect. My prediction is that there will be some tickets on the exchanges the minute they open up (a combination of scalpers trying to get their money back, the odd fan whose plans changed between the lottery/sale and 2/18, and maybe possibly TM holding back some primary inventory to throw on there just to get the traffic going). Those will sell immediately, then it will be a ghost town until late March when people who can't make the shows start to move their tix. 

If NY is not included on the face value exchange, then Pearl Jam is forcing their fans who want to sell on stub hub to recover cost to charge a 30% premium.  If everyone else gets to recover cost, so should us all.

You’ve been corrected on this several times. You can sell anyway you like, why do you think you have to use stubhub? Sell it for the cost of face value including fees, idk what you’re talking about with 30% premium.

Why sell at Face if I can't use them?  Then some scalper can just snag them and make the $$$$$$$$.  I have friggin awesome seats for Denver(if what I saw was correct and no games are played) 2nd row center in BBB right behind pit.  I also have MSG seats.  If I can't make it and there is no F2F in NY or CO, I guess it is open market sale for me or I could sell to someone here and transfer privately once paid through PayPal or something.  I think with no F2F and the transfer laws in these 2 states, my tix are considered mine and will show up in my standard TM account not my PJ/TM account.  Feedback other than "sell them to me..."?

Feedback is if you need to sell one find someone on here that you know will be stoked for a ticket(not hard) and sell it to them for face value. I’m not sure what you guys are suggesting? If you’re selling them over face your scalping them yourself.

Yes, find somebody on here to try to sell to! I am searching for anybody who might be selling their tix to the Oak shows. I didn't win lottery on either days. 

tdawe

washed in black said:

JimmyV said:

Things come up and plans change. I get that. However...if more people bought only the tickets they intended to personally use and fewer people treated tickets as a commodity to flip, none of this would be as big deal as it it is being made out to be. 

Agree completely. And I also believe that 10c will be watching very closely over ticket transfers / exchanges. I wouldn't want to have multiple transfers attached to my 10c account.

I will be pleasantly surprised if that's the case but I really don't think so. I think they've done what they can to get as many tickets as possible in the right hands in the first place, and to make it as difficult as they practically can to transfer them. I'm not expecting them to be surveilling the transfer market.

Vedd Hedd

sk8drchik said:

ajaxbro said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Spitballing here...because I wont be selling my tickets on F2F.    But if i DID.....couldnt I find someone on the boards who wanted them....and then work with them to let them know WHEN I was listing them on F2F.    We agree that we are going to do this at "3:35PM".   Then I put up my tickets, and the person sees them immediately and buys them?

I wonder if there is a hold on when they get posted.   

TM actually recommended this to someone i think. They said do it off hours though... so less people watching

What do you mean by off hours exactly? I just want to make sure I am understanding it all. Thx

Lets say I wanted to sell my tickets because I cant go.   I could make a post saying For Sale: these 2 tickets. 

And you responded, and we agreed.   I could say, "ok I am going to post them on F2F at 4am.   Then you would be on F2F at 4am and as soon as you see them, you grab them. 

there is no guarantee you would def get them, and I wonder if bots would be able to get them....but if they did, they could still ONLY be sold on F2F anyway, right?

ANyway, off hours means when people are usually sleeping. 

JimmyV

tdawe said:

washed in black said:

JimmyV said:

Things come up and plans change. I get that. However...if more people bought only the tickets they intended to personally use and fewer people treated tickets as a commodity to flip, none of this would be as big deal as it it is being made out to be. 

Agree completely. And I also believe that 10c will be watching very closely over ticket transfers / exchanges. I wouldn't want to have multiple transfers attached to my 10c account.

I will be pleasantly surprised if that's the case but I really don't think so. I think they've done what they can to get as many tickets as possible in the right hands in the first place, and to make it as difficult as they practically can to transfer them. I'm not expecting them to be surveilling the transfer market.

They have always kept an eye on that market before. 

washed in black

tdawe said:

washed in black said:

JimmyV said:

Things come up and plans change. I get that. However...if more people bought only the tickets they intended to personally use and fewer people treated tickets as a commodity to flip, none of this would be as big deal as it it is being made out to be. 

Agree completely. And I also believe that 10c will be watching very closely over ticket transfers / exchanges. I wouldn't want to have multiple transfers attached to my 10c account.

I will be pleasantly surprised if that's the case but I really don't think so. I think they've done what they can to get as many tickets as possible in the right hands in the first place, and to make it as difficult as they practically can to transfer them. I'm not expecting them to be surveilling the transfer market.

They may not be actively auditing every sale in real time, but I am confident that since our TM accounts are tied to our 10c accounts, any transfer will automatically flag the 10c member's account and go in to the account history.

tdawe

Vedd Hedd said:

sk8drchik said:

ajaxbro said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Spitballing here...because I wont be selling my tickets on F2F.    But if i DID.....couldnt I find someone on the boards who wanted them....and then work with them to let them know WHEN I was listing them on F2F.    We agree that we are going to do this at "3:35PM".   Then I put up my tickets, and the person sees them immediately and buys them?

I wonder if there is a hold on when they get posted.   

TM actually recommended this to someone i think. They said do it off hours though... so less people watching

What do you mean by off hours exactly? I just want to make sure I am understanding it all. Thx

Lets say I wanted to sell my tickets because I cant go.   I could make a post saying For Sale: these 2 tickets. 

And you responded, and we agreed.   I could say, "ok I am going to post them on F2F at 4am.   Then you would be on F2F at 4am and as soon as you see them, you grab them. 

there is no guarantee you would def get them, and I wonder if bots would be able to get them....but if they did, they could still ONLY be sold on F2F anyway, right?

ANyway, off hours means when people are usually sleeping. 

I think the key question is whether the brokers are getting any traction with their "send me $1,000 and I'll send you a password for a Ticketmaster account" schemes or other workarounds. If they are, then they'll bot the hell out of the exchanges and we'll all be toast even at 4 am. If they are not, then I believe there will be significant inventory being offloaded by brokers into the exchanges.

craigraether

Should we start the speculation of what our seats will be - My Number is high 670xxx, Put in OAK 2 pri 1 and Oak 1 Pri 2... My oakland2 email came 1 min after oakland was opened up and started to be processed, based on that and having put in BA.. here is what i hope

Oak 1 - Was pri 2 and came Monday after all the issues  - Guess - 110 R, Seats 22.23.

Oak2 - guess GA - ( Since my pull was so early)

That would be the best outcome i can hope for!

ddeschler

Footnote: (Fans, this is advice for you!  Please, PJ, don't interpret this as a song request!)

smak

Vedd Hedd said:

Spitballing here...because I wont be selling my tickets on F2F.    But if i DID.....couldnt I find someone on the boards who wanted them....and then work with them to let them know WHEN I was listing them on F2F.    We agree that we are going to do this at "3:35PM".   Then I put up my tickets, and the person sees them immediately and buys them?

I wonder if there is a hold on when they get posted.   

If they post right away, I might do that with a possible extra seat.  It should be a good one...

Maybe post a thread, and tell people when I'm going to post.

ajflicker

Clapper said:

  I gotta say I have been switching back and forth between the Impeachment hearings and reading these discussions.  Both leave me baffled.   

If people put half the effort into voting that they put into crying on this forum about concert tickets, there wouldn't be a need for those hearings. 

MAGA

RandyM02

To you very knowledgeable people. If i see something better in the F2F than the 2 tickets I received in the lottery can I purchase first (now have 4 tickets total) and then try and sell off my original two or do I have to unload original two before I can purchase two? Thank You

smak

Vedd Hedd said:

sk8drchik said:

ajaxbro said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Spitballing here...because I wont be selling my tickets on F2F.    But if i DID.....couldnt I find someone on the boards who wanted them....and then work with them to let them know WHEN I was listing them on F2F.    We agree that we are going to do this at "3:35PM".   Then I put up my tickets, and the person sees them immediately and buys them?

I wonder if there is a hold on when they get posted.   

TM actually recommended this to someone i think. They said do it off hours though... so less people watching

What do you mean by off hours exactly? I just want to make sure I am understanding it all. Thx

Lets say I wanted to sell my tickets because I cant go.   I could make a post saying For Sale: these 2 tickets. 

And you responded, and we agreed.   I could say, "ok I am going to post them on F2F at 4am.   Then you would be on F2F at 4am and as soon as you see them, you grab them. 

there is no guarantee you would def get them, and I wonder if bots would be able to get them....but if they did, they could still ONLY be sold on F2F anyway, right?

ANyway, off hours means when people are usually sleeping. 

Off topic, but...I'm on A-List for AMC.. I bought 2 tickets to Star Wars a few months ago, one with my A-List, one $ one for my friend.
She then got on A-List, and then AMC added a feature you could get tickets for your other A-List friends in the same transaction.
So I wanted to return both tickets, get refunded $ for the one, and then get both again as part of our subscriptions

But I was paranoid somebody would grab that one ticket for the sold out show, in the 5 seconds I released it.  I was also worried about bots, as silly as that sounds for movie tickets.

So I finally decided to do it, and did it at like 3 am, and it worked.  

I am not sure if this site will release the tickets as fast as AMC did, but I am not sure if bots are setup to just randomly check for tickets on shows every 5 seconds, and am not even sure if bots would even work on this new TM F2F site.

mattcoz

DZ153527 said:

mace1229 said:

DZ153527 said:

mace1229 said:

DZ153527 said:

kotton_crown said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tdawe said:

mpedone said:

hihobibo said:

Saltzy23 said:

mcgruff10 said:

I don't understand why they don't release the ticket info to all since it seems like everything is in place.

It's absurd.

The F2F marketplaces should all be up as well.

There is literally no reason to keep waiting.  Not so that they know where they are sitting as much as opening up the marketplaces to allow people to start posting and buying if they are looking.

I do not understand why we need to wait until mid-late February to be able to buy any secondary tickets for any shows that are not NYC or CO.

The wait should be there. It seems so many people are ready to SELL on the exchange right now than buy. But why? We were only offered the tickets a couple weeks ago. Don't put in if you aren't going to go. This site now gives everyone an out, so they can get the thrill of winning the lottery, but then change their mind about flying across the country to actually go. The rumors thread was accurate for a few weeks ahead of the announcement, enough time to prepare plans in case you won. 

I think a lot of people are hoping to get tickets to MSG and/or Baltimore (and all the others, obviously) via the F2F exchange. Way more than are eager to sell.

I've explained this too many times now in another thread but there are no going to be tickets available for MSG on the F2F exchange. Apparently some Redditor was told by TM that they weren't setting it up in the first place, but even if they do there won't be any tickets on it.

For the non-transferable shows, including Baltimore, I have a theory that scalpers bought up tickets like they would for any other show without really understanding how non-resellable they would be. There are some listed on second- or third-tier resale websites proposing sketchy arrangements involving sales of TM account passwords and whatnot, but I doubt they'll find many takers for those and in any event there don't seem to be as many listings as you would expect. My prediction is that there will be some tickets on the exchanges the minute they open up (a combination of scalpers trying to get their money back, the odd fan whose plans changed between the lottery/sale and 2/18, and maybe possibly TM holding back some primary inventory to throw on there just to get the traffic going). Those will sell immediately, then it will be a ghost town until late March when people who can't make the shows start to move their tix. 

If NY is not included on the face value exchange, then Pearl Jam is forcing their fans who want to sell on stub hub to recover cost to charge a 30% premium.  If everyone else gets to recover cost, so should us all.

You’ve been corrected on this several times. You can sell anyway you like, why do you think you have to use stubhub? Sell it for the cost of face value including fees, idk what you’re talking about with 30% premium.

Why sell at Face if I can't use them?  Then some scalper can just snag them and make the $$$$$$$$.  I have friggin awesome seats for Denver(if what I saw was correct and no games are played) 2nd row center in BBB right behind pit.  I also have MSG seats.  If I can't make it and there is no F2F in NY or CO, I guess it is open market sale for me or I could sell to someone here and transfer privately once paid through PayPal or something.  I think with no F2F and the transfer laws in these 2 states, my tix are considered mine and will show up in my standard TM account not my PJ/TM account.  Feedback other than "sell them to me..."?

I won't lie, I'd be tempted if I bought them directly from TM and I see the same tickets selling for 5-10 times what the face is. But if you are talking about 10c tickets, you agreed to only sell at face value and risk losing your membership if you dont. And I feel differently about fan club tickets than I do TM tickets. As someone already said if you dont want them to go to a scalper then sell them on here.

Read my posts...Never once said I wasn't going.  Never once said I was potentially going solo, If I was, the single transfer is obviously the way to go.  I said if I were selling both, my options are to sell privately to a fan from these boards at face or publicly with profit.  Being a Philly guy now in NY and a PJ fan since day 1, and the big TM boycott that didn't even play the NE except sparingly to avoid TM venues, I get it.  Never said I was going to sell to the highest bidder.  Said why post publically at cost?  I gotta say I have been switching back and forth between the Impeachment hearings and reading these discussions.  Both leave me baffled.   

Well with about 100 posts an hour its east to not scroll back pages and see how the conversation started. I apologize that is what I assumed based on the last response and thank you for clarifying.  But if you're really just worried about breaking even you will not have a hard time selling a ticket here, facebook, craigslist, or any other number of places that don't have fees.

Mace1229...Thanks for getting that I plan on private sale here or somehow to a fan not public sale at cost where a scalper could snag and profitize.
Mattcoz....SMH...guess I know who I wouldn't sell them to.

What am I missing? You said one of your options was to sell for profit. That is against the membership agreement.

smak

RandyM02 said:

To you very knowledgeable people. If i see something better in the F2F than the 2 tickets I received in the lottery can I purchase first (now have 4 tickets total) and then try and sell off my original two or do I have to unload original two before I can purchase two? Thank You

Fans buying on the F2F site won't have their 10club info linked.  Just like they weren't for the normal onsales.

tdawe

RandyM02 said:

To you very knowledgeable people. If i see something better in the F2F than the 2 tickets I received in the lottery can I purchase first (now have 4 tickets total) and then try and sell off my original two or do I have to unload original two before I can purchase two? Thank You

Nobody knows the details of how the exchanges are going to work. Even if you called Ticketmaster and asked them a question like this, I wouldn't trust the response to be accurate.

Gern Blansten

RandyM02 said:

To you very knowledgeable people. If i see something better in the F2F than the 2 tickets I received in the lottery can I purchase first (now have 4 tickets total) and then try and sell off my original two or do I have to unload original two before I can purchase two? Thank You

I don't see why not.  They just care about transferring for face value...not how many tickets you have that you might not be able to use.

Evel K

luismota123 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Oh, A Pearl Jam Flame Thrower would be awesome!!! LOL

No, no, no! It always has and always will be the Pearl Jam "old school" lunch box. If you think I'm lying, ask George.

Lerxst1992

kotton_crown said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tdawe said:

mpedone said:

hihobibo said:

Saltzy23 said:

mcgruff10 said:

I don't understand why they don't release the ticket info to all since it seems like everything is in place.

It's absurd.

The F2F marketplaces should all be up as well.

There is literally no reason to keep waiting.  Not so that they know where they are sitting as much as opening up the marketplaces to allow people to start posting and buying if they are looking.

I do not understand why we need to wait until mid-late February to be able to buy any secondary tickets for any shows that are not NYC or CO.

The wait should be there. It seems so many people are ready to SELL on the exchange right now than buy. But why? We were only offered the tickets a couple weeks ago. Don't put in if you aren't going to go. This site now gives everyone an out, so they can get the thrill of winning the lottery, but then change their mind about flying across the country to actually go. The rumors thread was accurate for a few weeks ahead of the announcement, enough time to prepare plans in case you won. 

I think a lot of people are hoping to get tickets to MSG and/or Baltimore (and all the others, obviously) via the F2F exchange. Way more than are eager to sell.

I've explained this too many times now in another thread but there are no going to be tickets available for MSG on the F2F exchange. Apparently some Redditor was told by TM that they weren't setting it up in the first place, but even if they do there won't be any tickets on it.

For the non-transferable shows, including Baltimore, I have a theory that scalpers bought up tickets like they would for any other show without really understanding how non-resellable they would be. There are some listed on second- or third-tier resale websites proposing sketchy arrangements involving sales of TM account passwords and whatnot, but I doubt they'll find many takers for those and in any event there don't seem to be as many listings as you would expect. My prediction is that there will be some tickets on the exchanges the minute they open up (a combination of scalpers trying to get their money back, the odd fan whose plans changed between the lottery/sale and 2/18, and maybe possibly TM holding back some primary inventory to throw on there just to get the traffic going). Those will sell immediately, then it will be a ghost town until late March when people who can't make the shows start to move their tix. 

If NY is not included on the face value exchange, then Pearl Jam is forcing their fans who want to sell on stub hub to recover cost to charge a 30% premium.  If everyone else gets to recover cost, so should us all.

You’ve been corrected on this several times. You can sell anyway you like, why do you think you have to use stubhub? Sell it for the cost of face value including fees, idk what you’re talking about with 30% premium.

Then you shouldn't pretend you are correcting me.

A few facts to help-
Many have said TM has told fans the face value exchange is off limits to NY due to the laws there.

If a fan wants to recover the approximate $125 investment on their ticket, and the FV exchange is unavailable, their likeliest and most accessible option is to sell on stub hub.

To recover the $125 cost, you need to sell on SH for $167.

This would be against 10c policy and can result in the cancellation of membership. 

mattcoz

Lerxst1992 said:

kotton_crown said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tdawe said:

mpedone said:

hihobibo said:

Saltzy23 said:

mcgruff10 said:

I don't understand why they don't release the ticket info to all since it seems like everything is in place.

It's absurd.

The F2F marketplaces should all be up as well.

There is literally no reason to keep waiting.  Not so that they know where they are sitting as much as opening up the marketplaces to allow people to start posting and buying if they are looking.

I do not understand why we need to wait until mid-late February to be able to buy any secondary tickets for any shows that are not NYC or CO.

The wait should be there. It seems so many people are ready to SELL on the exchange right now than buy. But why? We were only offered the tickets a couple weeks ago. Don't put in if you aren't going to go. This site now gives everyone an out, so they can get the thrill of winning the lottery, but then change their mind about flying across the country to actually go. The rumors thread was accurate for a few weeks ahead of the announcement, enough time to prepare plans in case you won. 

I think a lot of people are hoping to get tickets to MSG and/or Baltimore (and all the others, obviously) via the F2F exchange. Way more than are eager to sell.

I've explained this too many times now in another thread but there are no going to be tickets available for MSG on the F2F exchange. Apparently some Redditor was told by TM that they weren't setting it up in the first place, but even if they do there won't be any tickets on it.

For the non-transferable shows, including Baltimore, I have a theory that scalpers bought up tickets like they would for any other show without really understanding how non-resellable they would be. There are some listed on second- or third-tier resale websites proposing sketchy arrangements involving sales of TM account passwords and whatnot, but I doubt they'll find many takers for those and in any event there don't seem to be as many listings as you would expect. My prediction is that there will be some tickets on the exchanges the minute they open up (a combination of scalpers trying to get their money back, the odd fan whose plans changed between the lottery/sale and 2/18, and maybe possibly TM holding back some primary inventory to throw on there just to get the traffic going). Those will sell immediately, then it will be a ghost town until late March when people who can't make the shows start to move their tix. 

If NY is not included on the face value exchange, then Pearl Jam is forcing their fans who want to sell on stub hub to recover cost to charge a 30% premium.  If everyone else gets to recover cost, so should us all.

You’ve been corrected on this several times. You can sell anyway you like, why do you think you have to use stubhub? Sell it for the cost of face value including fees, idk what you’re talking about with 30% premium.

Then you shouldn't pretend you are correcting me.

A few facts to help-
Many have said TM has told fans the face value exchange is off limits to NY due to the laws there.

If a fan wants to recover the approximate $125 investment on their ticket, and the FV exchange is unavailable, their likeliest and most accessible option is to sell on stub hub.

To recover the $125 cost, you need to sell on SH for $167.

This would be against 10c policy and can result in the cancellation of membership. 

I don't know what the official stance is, but I would hope they would make an exception in this case, since it's not for profit. Still, nobody is forcing you to use Stubhub.

smak

Blaming PJ & TM for your buying too many tickets sure is a new one.

Isn't the likeliest place to sell a ticket to MSG, the hottest ticket on the tour, here?  Or Facebook?