Seat Confirmations - Week of Jan. 27

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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited February 2020
    MickeyMouse said:
    what dreams said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    what dreams said:
    sean9769 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    Taft said:
    smak said:
    Ticketmaster didn't pick your reserved seats, 10 club did.
    Explain the logic of my seat then know-it-all. 
    Something definitely doesn’t line up there.
    No things are not lining up. People with higher numbers by the hundreds of thousands got GA when all put in best available. That doesn't line up at all. I really wish someone from 10C would define Best Available for the lottery and then explain how tickets got assigned once the lottery was chosen. When that happens, I'll stop asking questions. 
    Regardless what your number is it has nothing to do with getting GA or not.  GA is a total crapshoot.  Even if one selected BA if and when their number was pulled they would be awarded GA if it was available at that time and it would continue as such until GA filled up and THEN the higher or lower number come into play handing out the reserved seats.  Pretty simple.
    I get that seniority has nothing to do with getting GA. So let me see if I understand how this worked. I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just trying to understand:
    1.  The pulled a bunch of names.
    2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
    3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
    So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked. 
    I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds.  This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list. 
    And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
    No, they drew GA tickets from the pool of GA and BA entries. Then they moved on to drawing Reserved from Reserved and BA entries
    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    You don't have to yell at me, Mickey Mouse. This isn't my first lottery. I know the difference between a NAME being pulled and seats in reserved being assigned. I understand SENIORITY has nothing to do with a name being pulled.
    Forgive me for missing the exact explanation of BRAND NEW OPTION OF BEST AVAILABLE over tens of THOUSANDS of posts that have occurred since this started.
    You know what would be WONDERFUL?
    If 10 Club put out a SIMPLE OFFICIAL  explanation instead of SPECULATION on the boards based on inferences about when your credit card was charged. FFS. Time to leave. Good night.
    Post edited by what dreams on
  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    what dreams said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    what dreams said:
    sean9769 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    Taft said:
    smak said:
    Ticketmaster didn't pick your reserved seats, 10 club did.
    Explain the logic of my seat then know-it-all. 
    Something definitely doesn’t line up there.
    No things are not lining up. People with higher numbers by the hundreds of thousands got GA when all put in best available. That doesn't line up at all. I really wish someone from 10C would define Best Available for the lottery and then explain how tickets got assigned once the lottery was chosen. When that happens, I'll stop asking questions. 
    Regardless what your number is it has nothing to do with getting GA or not.  GA is a total crapshoot.  Even if one selected BA if and when their number was pulled they would be awarded GA if it was available at that time and it would continue as such until GA filled up and THEN the higher or lower number come into play handing out the reserved seats.  Pretty simple.
    I get that seniority has nothing to do with getting GA. So let me see if I understand how this worked. I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just trying to understand:
    1.  The pulled a bunch of names.
    2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
    3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
    So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked. 
    I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds.  This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list. 
    And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
    No, they drew GA tickets from the pool of GA and BA entries. Then they moved on to drawing Reserved from Reserved and BA entries
    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    You don't have to yell at me, Mickey Mouse. This isn't my first lottery. I know the difference between a NAME being pulled and seats in reserved being assigned. I understand SENIORITY has nothing to do with a name being pulled.
    Forgive me for missing the exact explanation of BRAND NEW OPTION OF BEST AVAILABLE over tens of THOUSANDS of posts that have occurred since this started.
    You know what would be WONDERFUL?
    If 10 Club put out a SIMPLE OFFICIAL  explanation instead of SPECULATION on the boards based on inferences about when your credit card was charged. FFS. Time to leave. Good night.
    I don’t think he is yelling at you. I think he’s using caps to emphasize / explain that the NAMES are drawn at random from ONE pool of entries for that show’s tickets. Tickets are assigned based on the selected ticket type of the lucky person whose name was drawn. 
    4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.25
  • MickeyMouse
    MickeyMouse Posts: 1,057
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    what dreams said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    what dreams said:
    sean9769 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    Taft said:
    smak said:
    Ticketmaster didn't pick your reserved seats, 10 club did.
    Explain the logic of my seat then know-it-all. 
    Something definitely doesn’t line up there.
    No things are not lining up. People with higher numbers by the hundreds of thousands got GA when all put in best available. That doesn't line up at all. I really wish someone from 10C would define Best Available for the lottery and then explain how tickets got assigned once the lottery was chosen. When that happens, I'll stop asking questions. 
    Regardless what your number is it has nothing to do with getting GA or not.  GA is a total crapshoot.  Even if one selected BA if and when their number was pulled they would be awarded GA if it was available at that time and it would continue as such until GA filled up and THEN the higher or lower number come into play handing out the reserved seats.  Pretty simple.
    I get that seniority has nothing to do with getting GA. So let me see if I understand how this worked. I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just trying to understand:
    1.  The pulled a bunch of names.
    2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
    3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
    So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked. 
    I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds.  This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list. 
    And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
    No, they drew GA tickets from the pool of GA and BA entries. Then they moved on to drawing Reserved from Reserved and BA entries
    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    You don't have to yell at me, Mickey Mouse. This isn't my first lottery. I know the difference between a NAME being pulled and seats in reserved being assigned. I understand SENIORITY has nothing to do with a name being pulled.
    Forgive me for missing the exact explanation of BRAND NEW OPTION OF BEST AVAILABLE over tens of THOUSANDS of posts that have occurred since this started.
    You know what would be WONDERFUL?
    If 10 Club put out a SIMPLE OFFICIAL  explanation instead of SPECULATION on the boards based on inferences about when your credit card was charged. FFS. Time to leave. Good night.
    BA wasn’t the hardest thing to figure out. In fact it was pretty simple. The meaning of it is right there in the name. 

    10C owes no one an explanation. Everything makes sense. There’s a handful of dense people who don’t get it, and who keep asking and asking in different threads. Then it’s explained to them, over and over, and they still speculate on something else, or try to find another reason that it doesn’t sense.  
    Uniondale, NY 04/30/03 - Camden, NJ 07/05/03 - MSG 07/08/03 - Reading, PA 10/01/04 - Philly 10/03/05 - Ed Sullivan Theatre 05/04/06 - MSG 06/25/08 - MSG 05/21/10 - NYC (EV solo) 06/21/11 - Montreal 09/07/11 - Brooklyn 10/18/13 - Central Park 09/26/15 - Philly 04/29/16 - MSG 05/01/16 - MSG 05/02/16 - Fenway 08/05/16 - Fenway 09/02/18 - Fenway 09/04/18 
  • MickeyMouse
    MickeyMouse Posts: 1,057
    CO278952 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    what dreams said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    what dreams said:
    sean9769 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    Taft said:
    smak said:
    Ticketmaster didn't pick your reserved seats, 10 club did.
    Explain the logic of my seat then know-it-all. 
    Something definitely doesn’t line up there.
    No things are not lining up. People with higher numbers by the hundreds of thousands got GA when all put in best available. That doesn't line up at all. I really wish someone from 10C would define Best Available for the lottery and then explain how tickets got assigned once the lottery was chosen. When that happens, I'll stop asking questions. 
    Regardless what your number is it has nothing to do with getting GA or not.  GA is a total crapshoot.  Even if one selected BA if and when their number was pulled they would be awarded GA if it was available at that time and it would continue as such until GA filled up and THEN the higher or lower number come into play handing out the reserved seats.  Pretty simple.
    I get that seniority has nothing to do with getting GA. So let me see if I understand how this worked. I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just trying to understand:
    1.  The pulled a bunch of names.
    2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
    3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
    So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked. 
    I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds.  This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list. 
    And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
    No, they drew GA tickets from the pool of GA and BA entries. Then they moved on to drawing Reserved from Reserved and BA entries
    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    You don't have to yell at me, Mickey Mouse. This isn't my first lottery. I know the difference between a NAME being pulled and seats in reserved being assigned. I understand SENIORITY has nothing to do with a name being pulled.
    Forgive me for missing the exact explanation of BRAND NEW OPTION OF BEST AVAILABLE over tens of THOUSANDS of posts that have occurred since this started.
    You know what would be WONDERFUL?
    If 10 Club put out a SIMPLE OFFICIAL  explanation instead of SPECULATION on the boards based on inferences about when your credit card was charged. FFS. Time to leave. Good night.
    I don’t think he is yelling at you. I think he’s using caps to emphasize / explain that the NAMES are drawn at random from ONE pool of entries for that show’s tickets. Tickets are assigned based on the selected ticket type of the lucky person whose name was drawn. 
    Exactly.
    Uniondale, NY 04/30/03 - Camden, NJ 07/05/03 - MSG 07/08/03 - Reading, PA 10/01/04 - Philly 10/03/05 - Ed Sullivan Theatre 05/04/06 - MSG 06/25/08 - MSG 05/21/10 - NYC (EV solo) 06/21/11 - Montreal 09/07/11 - Brooklyn 10/18/13 - Central Park 09/26/15 - Philly 04/29/16 - MSG 05/01/16 - MSG 05/02/16 - Fenway 08/05/16 - Fenway 09/02/18 - Fenway 09/04/18 
  • KC2917
    KC2917 Posts: 872
    RH1500 said:
    KC2917 said:
    That’s night 1. Pit night 2. 
    Nice...congrats.  What’s your member number?  Must be super low.  I’m row 7 with 70xxx.
    What are your seat numbers? I’m wondering if they put lower numbers in the seats closer to the stage? Mine are all the way on the end. 
  • LaFleur
    LaFleur Posts: 829

    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    You don't have to yell at me, Mickey Mouse. This isn't my first lottery. I know the difference between a NAME being pulled and seats in reserved being assigned. I understand SENIORITY has nothing to do with a name being pulled.
    Forgive me for missing the exact explanation of BRAND NEW OPTION OF BEST AVAILABLE over tens of THOUSANDS of posts that have occurred since this started.
    You know what would be WONDERFUL?
    If 10 Club put out a SIMPLE OFFICIAL  explanation instead of SPECULATION on the boards based on inferences about when your credit card was charged. FFS. Time to leave. Good night.
    It's step 4. Personally thought it was very clear, could have selected GA, Res or both (BA). When both were selected during the lottery, it populated the BA option automatically. How could anyone have thought it was any way other than way it was. Flabbergasted...or flabbergutted?


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  • TN49724
    TN49724 Posts: 106
    MickeyMouse said:
    what dreams said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    what dreams said:
    sean9769 said:
    what dreams said:
    MickeyMouse said:
    Taft said:
    smak said:
    Ticketmaster didn't pick your reserved seats, 10 club did.
    Explain the logic of my seat then know-it-all. 
    Something definitely doesn’t line up there.
    No things are not lining up. People with higher numbers by the hundreds of thousands got GA when all put in best available. That doesn't line up at all. I really wish someone from 10C would define Best Available for the lottery and then explain how tickets got assigned once the lottery was chosen. When that happens, I'll stop asking questions. 
    Regardless what your number is it has nothing to do with getting GA or not.  GA is a total crapshoot.  Even if one selected BA if and when their number was pulled they would be awarded GA if it was available at that time and it would continue as such until GA filled up and THEN the higher or lower number come into play handing out the reserved seats.  Pretty simple.
    I get that seniority has nothing to do with getting GA. So let me see if I understand how this worked. I'm not trying to bitch, I'm just trying to understand:
    1.  The pulled a bunch of names.
    2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
    3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
    So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked. 
    I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds.  This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list. 
    And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
    No, they drew GA tickets from the pool of GA and BA entries. Then they moved on to drawing Reserved from Reserved and BA entries
    And how do we know this? Where was it published? 
    Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
    Here's how it works, spelled out as clear as possible. This has been explained to you multiple times in multiple threads. Try to stay with me.

    If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
    For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
    Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
    If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
    If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
    When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority. 
    The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.

    Now you say how do we know this?  Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged.  Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance.  Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times.  A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.

    Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG.  I had picked BA.  From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern.  Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA.  My member number did not factor into it.  It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats.  THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.
    This looks accurate.  It was like clockwork when they first sent out confirms and how that correlated to who got GA v RES today.   

    And that makes perfect sense and is how you would have to do it.  It couldn’t be done any other way (logically)  Why would you start with the worst seats and work to the best?  You wouldn’t.  Do the drawings, send out the emails right after.  

    The only wrinkle is who ultimately had the say so as to what ‘best’ was.  Site seats vs back floor seats.  
  • VOLARE
    VOLARE Posts: 315
    Thank you all for sharing seats and numbers. In retrospect I scared myself away from MSG. looking at the seating chart I was convinced I would be in the rafters based on my number. But now I see had I won a lottery seat I would have had an incredible seat. Cost of travel scared me since I can’t see that far! Next time I am all in!
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  • smak
    smak Posts: 241
    edited February 2020
    This is more complicated than people are saying.

    They choose section cutoffs.  So a section closer to the stage you might be in row 13, and the next person in line might be in the next section row 4.

    Which is better?  One section closer to the stage, or 9 rows closer to the floor?    
    Everybody has their own opinion which of those is better.

    Also, for floor seats, some arenas GA is twice or 3 times the length as others.

    So some people's front and center floor are way closer than other arenas.  So those front center floors in an arena with a big floor are people way back in seniority compared to another arena with a tiny floor

    Myself, I would have chosen floor center in LA, because the GA is tiny.  But in OKC I would have chosen close wings, because the GA is big.
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  • DOCCABO
    DOCCABO Posts: 52
    ...sooooo  - did anyone not get their ticket notifications today?  I received the you won tickets email for SD, LA 1, LA 2, and Oak 1 - and my credit card was charged for all 4 shows - but I didn't get any ticket notification emails today...not in spam filter, not in ticketmaster account, nothing...
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    DOCCABO said:
    ...sooooo  - did anyone not get their ticket notifications today?  I received the you won tickets email for SD, LA 1, LA 2, and Oak 1 - and my credit card was charged for all 4 shows - but I didn't get any ticket notification emails today...not in spam filter, not in ticketmaster account, nothing...
    That's odd that you didnt get any of them. If your card was charged, then you should be fine and I would call them.  They wont show up in your TM account until you click the link in the email and "claim" them. Hope it works out, I'm sure it will.


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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
    edited February 2020
    LA1  sec 109 row 16
    LA2  GA
    529xxx
    This much better than I expected.  Am extremely happy.  DETTUG (tm) !!!

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  • madhat181
    madhat181 Posts: 373
    DOCCABO said:
    ...sooooo  - did anyone not get their ticket notifications today?  I received the you won tickets email for SD, LA 1, LA 2, and Oak 1 - and my credit card was charged for all 4 shows - but I didn't get any ticket notification emails today...not in spam filter, not in ticketmaster account, nothing...
    Check that Spam folder
  • scottpg99
    scottpg99 Papillion, NE USA Posts: 16
    Question for all...so if my tix say SECTION GAPIT2, ROW GA4, SEATS 32 and 33 for Denver does that mean that these are assigned floor seats?
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited February 2020
    scottpg99 said:
    Question for all...so if my tix say SECTION GAPIT2, ROW GA4, SEATS 32 and 33 for Denver does that mean that these are assigned floor seats?
    No thats GA... numbers are meaningless for GA - just accounting 
    and Congrats!

  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    DOCCABO said:
    ...sooooo  - did anyone not get their ticket notifications today?  I received the you won tickets email for SD, LA 1, LA 2, and Oak 1 - and my credit card was charged for all 4 shows - but I didn't get any ticket notification emails today...not in spam filter, not in ticketmaster account, nothing...
    Well I am apparently lost in limbo with you. I never received a confirmation email but my credit card was charged. So I called and they told me there was a problem with my email (comcast) but I was indeed awarded tickets. I did get an email telling me that my

    Your Pearl Jam Commemorative Ticket order has been processed

    but still no confirmation and no seating information. I will be calling Monday. :tongue:

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  • AlltheWay23
    AlltheWay23 Posts: 160
    1. MSG Sect F row 4 (behind GA)
    2. STL Section 118 row S (side stage)
    132xxx

    Not as great as other tours but I guess that’s expected.  

    MSG doesn’t seem like a lot of people got seats in the good sections close to stage.  Guess lots of VIPs in nyc.

    STL Not sure why they put us further back side stage when a bunch of others with higher numbers seemed to get closer/not side stage seats

    either way I’m happy to be seeing two shows for face value!!
  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    Yeah...for the first time ever I got GA!
    St. Louis here I come...
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Didn't land GA for either of the shows I requested, but the reserved seats I pulled appear to be pretty sweet, judging from the seating maps.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • RH1500
    RH1500 Posts: 40
    KC2917 said:
    RH1500 said:
    KC2917 said:
    That’s night 1. Pit night 2. 
    Nice...congrats.  What’s your member number?  Must be super low.  I’m row 7 with 70xxx.
    What are your seat numbers? I’m wondering if they put lower numbers in the seats closer to the stage? Mine are all the way on the end. 
    For N1, I’m row 7 mid-row, but in the section across from yours (Sec 127 on Stone’s side).  For N2, I have Sec 116 row 5 near the end of the row closest to the stage.  Strange how they assigned tix, but I’m not sweating it. I was dreading getting a floor seat behind GA, so I’m super happy with where I ended up.  👍🏼

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