Seat Confirmations - Week of Jan. 27
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Are emails still going out to people? I have yet to receive mine.
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bootlegger10 said:Taft said:1ThoughtKnown said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:0
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sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.0 -
darwinstheory said:Are emails still going out to people? I have yet to receive mine.0
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JimmyV said:We have one or two weirdisms, but on the whole this seems to have worked as expected.0
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what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.0 -
NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.0 -
what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.0 -
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what dreams said:JimmyV said:We have one or two weirdisms, but on the whole this seems to have worked as expected.
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craigraether said:what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.0 -
what dreams said:craigraether said:what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.0 -
what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
This is my best guess based on following the forum. For all drawings it seemed GA only winners were among the first emails out. From what I've seen on posted results, there were quite a few confirmations of early BA winners who indeed did get GA. I don't think we'll ever get official confirmation on this, but this is similar to how the drawing worked before (GA was drawn first, the Reserved), the big difference here being the BA option.
And to add, there were GA only losers while others who put in BA hit GA tickets, so they didn't assign GA to only GA entries first prior to giving GA to BA entries.Post edited by NewfieintheUSA on0 -
what dreams said:JimmyV said:We have one or two weirdisms, but on the whole this seems to have worked as expected.
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ecdanc said:what dreams said:craigraether said:what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.0 -
what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.
If you selected BA, you were entered for the BEST AVAILABLE when your NAME was pulled.
For this lottery, they selected and charged GA tickets first, and then reserved.
Since GA is included in BA, your NAME was eligible to be pulled for the GA entries.
If your NAME was pulled ***REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY*** and you selected BA, and GA was still available, you got GA.
If your NAME was pulled and you selected BA but GA was already filled, you got reserved.
When your NAME is selected has NOTHING to do with seniority.
The ONLY time your 10C comes into play is when seat selections are made.
Now you say how do we know this? Well we don't for sure, but from over a dozen shows we noticed a pattern developing when people were getting charged. Those who selected only GA were being charged far sooner than people who selected only reserved in every instance. Lots and lots of people chose BA and they were being charged at all times. A reasonable deduction was made that they were charging GA first and then moving onto reserved.
Personally, when MSG name selections began, I got charged before a single post happened on the board about anyone being selected for MSG. I had picked BA. From the evidence we had during the drawing, it was a logical conclusion that I had a very high chance of getting GA since my name was chosen so early and we had seen the pattern. Sure enough, when tickets came today, I had GA. My member number did not factor into it. It was pure, dumb luck. Had my name been chosen later, I could have received reserved seats. THEN and ONLY THEN would my member number matter.Post edited by MickeyMouse onUniondale, NY 04/30/03 - Camden, NJ 07/05/03 - MSG 07/08/03 - Reading, PA 10/01/04 - Philly 10/03/05 - Ed Sullivan Theatre 05/04/06 - MSG 06/25/08 - MSG 05/21/10 - NYC (EV solo) 06/21/11 - Montreal 09/07/11 - Brooklyn 10/18/13 - Central Park 09/26/15 - Philly 04/29/16 - MSG 05/01/16 - MSG 05/02/16 - Fenway 08/05/16 - Fenway 09/02/18 - Fenway 09/04/180 -
what dreams said:NewfieintheUSA said:what dreams said:sean9769 said:what dreams said:MickeyMouse said:
1. The pulled a bunch of names.
2. They assigned GA only and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (randomly???).
3. They assigned Reserved only (by seniority) and then filled what they had left with people who put BA (by seniority).
So basically, if you put BA, you were really the leftovers and it was random if you got GA? That's fucked.
I know a bunch of us were on here during the three days we had to make our decision trying to figure out the best options. Everybody, and I mean everybody, kept saying BA was the best option. Now I see it was the best option to get in the building but not necessarily the best way to get into GA. In the past lotteries when I've gotten into GA, it was because I waited until the last minute watching the odds and picked the show where I knew I could get into GA based on the odds. This whole Best Available nonsense was just stupid and confusing, in my view, and could have been way more transparent up front. I would have much preferred the old way where I picked my shows -- Priority 1 GA, Priority 2 Res -- and so on going down my show preference list.
And just to preempt the all the "entitlement" bullies -- my preference for GA may be construed as spoiled. Yes I get that. But really, I just don't like to be confined to a seated area for three hours. I get anxious in tight spaces when I can't move, and I will be in and out of my row all night long bothering people just to get out. Thankfully I'm three seats away from an aisle.
Again, not trying to be confrontational. Just trying to understand. If this is the new normal, I want to have all the information I can if I decide to do this again in the fall.4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250 -
You are having a different conversation it seems but so all the info is out there. I didn’t do GA or Best Available. Just Reserved. 42,XXX in Sec 1 Floor, Row 16 at MSG.
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