Ticket Disaster

BennyLaRue

Lerxst1992 said:

Starting to get fed up with their desire to see spicy cities

???

They aren't your employees, yo.

JimmyV

If they had skipped the northeast altogether we would all figure that they would be back in the fall, no big deal. But instead they squeeze a NYC show in and this is the reaction.

BennyLaRue

JimmyV said:

If they had skipped the northeast altogether we would all figure that they would be back in the fall, no big deal. But instead they squeeze a NYC show in and this is the reaction.

Are you explaining or justifying?

JimmyV

BennyLaRue said:

JimmyV said:

If they had skipped the northeast altogether we would all figure that they would be back in the fall, no big deal. But instead they squeeze a NYC show in and this is the reaction.

Are you explaining or justifying?

Neither, really. I'm observing.

hacohen3

The real problem was only 2 East Coast shows. Such bad planning. Needed at least 2 night NYC, at least 

ecdanc

hacohen3 said:

The real problem was only 2 East Coast shows. Such bad planning. Needed at least 2 night NYC, at least 

So which show(s) are you cutting?

JimmyV

ecdanc said:

hacohen3 said:

The real problem was only 2 East Coast shows. Such bad planning. Needed at least 2 night NYC, at least 

So which show(s) are you cutting?

and what arena are they playing in?

PF658593

I can see all sides of this argument. But it just seemed easier for the lightning bolt tour and the one before. If you were a club member you just went online early and tried to get the tickets, lots of clicking and refreshing but it worked. It was a 2 stage process. This whole pre-verified, then lottery, then another presale is just such a pain in the rear. Too many dates/deadlines/logins to different sites. Also, despite multiple emails from ticketb@stard, my tenclub ticket page says I entered no lottery at all (and yes, emails match on both accounts.)I am biased since I got nothing, admittedly. I just have a vision of some marketing dude at Ticketb@stard having a light bulb moment which we are all now living. More North East dates please guys......! Congrats to those that got in. Enjoy.

wobbler_kitty

MickeyMouse said:

Sarava said:

Sorry you missed out. But MSG was not even close to 99%.

Another thread by someone who doesn't realize that the odds shown when entered arent the actual odds.

That and all the others who don’t realize this is just the first leg of the NA tour. Not only would that be common sense for a new album, it literally said so in the info they put out. 

Lerxst1992 said:

For chrissake if they spent 10% of the time playing near the Atlantic than they do crossing it, perhaps they wouldn't be alienating  the largest segment of their base.

Maybe I'm spoiled but other big bands always hit NYC and N.east 3 or 4 times more often every tour. Not this band.

hacohen3 said:

The real problem was only 2 East Coast shows. Such bad planning. Needed at least 2 night NYC, at least 

No shit they would normally play multiple dates in the big cities and more than 2 east coast US dates. They’re squeezing in a handful of NA dates before spending the summer in Europe. Calm down, Karen, they’ll be back. If you can’t figure out how to get tix now you’ll have more opportunities in the fall.

TN49724

Dang, I thought for sure the 85th version of this same thread would have solved the problem.  Nope.  I’ll just wait until #86.  That will definitely be the one. 

ryanphishes

From the phish.net forum SIX YEARS AGO!
I'm not going to edit it for Pearl Jam or changes to TM or the lotto, but it's basically the same for both groups of fans.

Anatomy of a Tour Announcement

IntoTomorrow 6 years ago

This is relevant, it's for everyone. It works for every Phish forum.
Mods please sticky this thread.

Anatomy of a Tour Announcement:

1) Initial flurry of selfings, ranging from tour date predictions to mistaken venues.

2) Complaints about tour dates, venues, ticket price, and the band itself.

3) Noob influx, as noted by the second round of selfings - multiple orders on same card, etc. General inability to read instructions becomes apparent.

4) Sporadic conflicts erupt over perceived abuse of the lottery system, coupled with demands that a merit system / old mail order system be put in place.

5) Noob anxiety escalates as the lottery closes. Within hours, people demand to know when the results will be announced.

6) General chaos ensues, as holds appear and disappear from cards, cards are lost, ex-girlfriends cancel cards.

7) Results come out. The "Haves" mercilessly taunt the "Have Nots". More fights break out over multiple orders, and scalpers flood the board. Noobs begin to chart StubHub prices.

8) Preparation begins for the great TicketMaster rodeo. Practice threads pop up, along with potential backdoor links. Noobs crowing about "scoring on StubHub", and not having to worry about TM.

9) Ticketmaster onsale. Server crashes immediately, 23 "f*** TM" threads simultaneously appear.

10) Three minutes later, all difficult shows sold out. Front page consumed by ticket trade offers. People lick their wounds, exchange TM queue wait times. Back door link folks rejoice.

11) The forum slowly devolves back to "normal". Random outbreaks of anger and selfings occur as ticket trades go south

Eddieshometown

ryanphishes said:

From the phish.net forum SIX YEARS AGO!
I'm not going to edit it for Pearl Jam or changes to TM or the lotto, but it's basically the same for both groups of fans.

Anatomy of a Tour Announcement

IntoTomorrow 6 years ago

This is relevant, it's for everyone. It works for every Phish forum.
Mods please sticky this thread.

Anatomy of a Tour Announcement:

1) Initial flurry of selfings, ranging from tour date predictions to mistaken venues.

2) Complaints about tour dates, venues, ticket price, and the band itself.

3) Noob influx, as noted by the second round of selfings - multiple orders on same card, etc. General inability to read instructions becomes apparent.

4) Sporadic conflicts erupt over perceived abuse of the lottery system, coupled with demands that a merit system / old mail order system be put in place.

5) Noob anxiety escalates as the lottery closes. Within hours, people demand to know when the results will be announced.

6) General chaos ensues, as holds appear and disappear from cards, cards are lost, ex-girlfriends cancel cards.

7) Results come out. The "Haves" mercilessly taunt the "Have Nots". More fights break out over multiple orders, and scalpers flood the board. Noobs begin to chart StubHub prices.

8) Preparation begins for the great TicketMaster rodeo. Practice threads pop up, along with potential backdoor links. Noobs crowing about "scoring on StubHub", and not having to worry about TM.

9) Ticketmaster onsale. Server crashes immediately, 23 "f*** TM" threads simultaneously appear.

10) Three minutes later, all difficult shows sold out. Front page consumed by ticket trade offers. People lick their wounds, exchange TM queue wait times. Back door link folks rejoice.

11) The forum slowly devolves back to "normal". Random outbreaks of anger and selfings occur as ticket trades go south

It's funny because it's true. .

Get_Right

Lerxst1992 said:

Get_Right said:

i would say it was a huge success with more 10C members getting tix to MSG than ever before.   And no, that does not include me, a longtime member who lives in the NYC suburbs.

Only for fans who dont mind grocery shopping with a blindfold on.

Been that way since day one.

brianlux

Bentleyspop said:

The Australian fires are a disaster 

Not getting tickets to see a rock band not a disaster 

No one "has" to pay $495 for a barstool at MSG.

There will still be opportunities to find a single seat at face value.

And if paying $495 for a barstool is okay with you then maybe next time look at going to another city. Where a hotel, airfare, and face value 10club tickets in better locations for a weekend are still less than paying scalper prices for MSG.

The only act I would pay $495 to go see would be God.  But he or she would have to prove their existence first.

PJINFLA

It was a lottery folks. In 2014 I came up empty also but still managed to find my way into the shows I wanted without paying a scalper. Like anything in life if people put the effort in (and read directions) they most likely will be rewarded. If people put ga only and went for MSG and Balt only that was their bad. Pick up your bootstraps and find another way in. If your a fan and haven't made any PJ friends over the last 29 years to help you out then trade your Benny for a ticket to the show.

Clapper

The Phish post is pretty spot on.

  A lot of my feelings  about the majority of our fan base has changed over the last 10 years and ticket time is always when the worst of those feelings are validated.

  I digress. At the end of the day, I’d estimate there are 30 million people within driving distance of NYC, Baltimore and Toronto.  Even if only a million of those people are interested in the band,  that’s still a million people trying for 60k seats over the 3 shows.   It’s not unfair, it’s not a scam, you didn’t get screwed.  There’s just way more of us than there are shows or tickets. 

lfitzpatrick9

Clapper said:

The Phish post is pretty spot on.

  A lot of my feelings  about the majority of our fan base has changed over the last 10 years and ticket time is always when the worst of those feelings are validated.

  I digress. At the end of the day, I’d estimate there are 30 million people within driving distance of NYC, Baltimore and Toronto.  Even if only a million of those people are interested in the band,  that’s still a million people trying for 60k seats over the 3 shows.   It’s not unfair, it’s not a scam, you didn’t get screwed.  There’s just way more of us than there are shows or tickets. 

Of course but it definitely sucks when LA and Oakland get two nights when the demand for NYC is higher than any other city on the planet. It’s proven that’s true cause there’s literally still tickets left for La and Oakland. So it’s kinda of a joke. 

PJNB

lfitzpatrick9 said:

Clapper said:

The Phish post is pretty spot on.

  A lot of my feelings  about the majority of our fan base has changed over the last 10 years and ticket time is always when the worst of those feelings are validated.

  I digress. At the end of the day, I’d estimate there are 30 million people within driving distance of NYC, Baltimore and Toronto.  Even if only a million of those people are interested in the band,  that’s still a million people trying for 60k seats over the 3 shows.   It’s not unfair, it’s not a scam, you didn’t get screwed.  There’s just way more of us than there are shows or tickets. 

Of course but it definitely sucks when LA and Oakland get two nights when the demand for NYC is higher than any other city on the planet. It’s proven that’s true cause there’s literally still tickets left for La and Oakland. So it’s kinda of a joke. 

 They could not do the tour that they wanted to initially because of arena's being booked. I think MSG is lucky to get 1 show the way this tour is mapped out. 

lfitzpatrick9

PJNB said:

lfitzpatrick9 said:

Clapper said:

The Phish post is pretty spot on.

  A lot of my feelings  about the majority of our fan base has changed over the last 10 years and ticket time is always when the worst of those feelings are validated.

  I digress. At the end of the day, I’d estimate there are 30 million people within driving distance of NYC, Baltimore and Toronto.  Even if only a million of those people are interested in the band,  that’s still a million people trying for 60k seats over the 3 shows.   It’s not unfair, it’s not a scam, you didn’t get screwed.  There’s just way more of us than there are shows or tickets. 

Of course but it definitely sucks when LA and Oakland get two nights when the demand for NYC is higher than any other city on the planet. It’s proven that’s true cause there’s literally still tickets left for La and Oakland. So it’s kinda of a joke. 

 They could not do the tour that they wanted to initially because of arena's being booked. I think MSG is lucky to get 1 show the way this tour is mapped out. 

I’d rather them just tour msg multiple times in the fall over one night in the spring making it impossible to get a ticket to. I only wanted reserved and nope. But like in 2016 I’ll wait at the box office day of show and hope to get a ticket. I mean even when they announced msg I knew from the start I’d have to do that since their 57% chance of getting reserved was probably more like 10 or 20% since the entire east coast put in for it. Haha 

jstu39

Anyone from NYC complaining of only one show is amazing. Look at the tour history. Many of these cities haven’t been played in 7 plus years. Of course the will go back to NY and Boston and Phily and Chicago. You got one show. It’s a tough ticket. Be grateful you get shows more frequently than most cities.