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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    Not surprisingly, this information is false. Canada is ranked 19th in the world today in terms of total vaccine doses per 100 people. The rest of his comments are equally untrue. 

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,296
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 

    not listed or I couldnt find it to report it.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,296
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,053
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 

    not listed or I couldnt find it to report it.
    Hopefully, it was already taken down. It makes me sick to my stomach that this would even be allowed to be sold in the first place. Despicable!!!!!

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited May 2021

    I’m sure Kinsella knows more about vaccine expiry dates than the team of immunologists, microbiologists, bioethicists and Astra Zeneca itself who approved extending the expiry date 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited May 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
    Sorry, I was talking about Greene
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
    Sorry, I was talking about Greene
    She doesn’t have anything to do with that patch does she?
    If we were talking about her, she is whack and an anti-Semite. Embarrassing that she holds a public office.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
    Sorry, I was talking about Greene
    She doesn’t have anything to do with that patch does she?
    If we were talking about her, she is whack and an anti-Semite. Embarrassing that she holds a public office.
    Yes.  She started the whole thing with her comment.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1268453
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
    Sorry, I was talking about Greene
    She doesn’t have anything to do with that patch does she?
    If we were talking about her, she is whack and an anti-Semite. Embarrassing that she holds a public office.
    Yes.  She started the whole thing with her comment.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1268453
    I wasn’t familiar with that particular quote from her. I don’t pay her much attention. If the hat lady was trying to associate herself with MTG and it was inspired by her comment or show her support for her then I was wrong in what I said earlier.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It makes a mockery of the Holocaust.  And now it's being monetized. 
    It’s hard to believe that anyone would fail to see the anti-Semitism involved in choosing a symbol whose sole purpose was to mark Jews as the “enemy of the people”.
    you would think so, wouldnt we? however, there are those who dont. and on this very forum.

    Yup. I’d prefer to have an adult conversation about it. I’d say to me it mocks more the Nazis and their terrible treatment of people and just because someone uses a poor analogy doesn’t in itself make them an awful person who deserves the same fate. And maybe an adult response and saying she could have chosen any other symbol, but that star has special meaning that was chosen specifically to mock the victims and so on could actually change an opinion. But calling people vile and terrible just because they disagree with you doesn’t do anything.
    I still don’t think she deserves to be speared to death. But guess that’s just me here.
    She has an accumulation of terrible analogies,  conspiracies,  lies and general ignorance.  So maybe this one thing in a vacuum doesn't make her a terrible person,  but she's a terrible person and this is just more proof. 
    If that’s true I’d agree. I did just see this tweet in a vacuum without other context. But if there’s a history of similar behavior, then you and others would be right that it’s not just poor taste, but worse.
    Are you unfamiliar with her history and crazy ass conspiracy theories?
    The owner of that hat store? Never heard of it before last night.
    Sorry, I was talking about Greene
    She doesn’t have anything to do with that patch does she?
    If we were talking about her, she is whack and an anti-Semite. Embarrassing that she holds a public office.
    Yes.  She started the whole thing with her comment.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1268453
    I wasn’t familiar with that particular quote from her. I don’t pay her much attention. If the hat lady was trying to associate herself with MTG and it was inspired by her comment or show her support for her then I was wrong in what I said earlier.

    Considering the timing and the clear correlation,  I'd say 99% chance it's connected. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,608
    edited May 2021
    There’s an argument for these nuts not being anti-Semitic. It’s that they legitimately believe they are every bit as persecuted as the Jews under Hitler.  Anecdotally, I feel like I am seeing these people buying into their (and their idol’s) own victim complex.  I think we’ve learned that there’s a correlation between these people and self-centeredness / lack of empathy for anyone but themselves. I think they can barely even recognize the what happened in the holocaust because it didn’t impact them directly.

    Are a lot of them anti-Semites?  Probably.  And that plays in.  But the labels for this nonsense, to me, are victim-complex and self-centeredness.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    OnWis97 said:
    There’s an argument for these nuts not being anti-Semitic. It’s that they legitimately believe they are every bit as persecuted as the Jews under Hitler.  Anecdotally, I feel like I am seeing these people buying into their (and their idol’s) own victim complex.  I think we’ve learned that there’s a correlation between these people and self-centeredness / lack of empathy for anyone but themselves. I think they can barely even recognize the what happened in the holocaust because it didn’t impact them directly.

    Are a lot of them anti-Semites?  Probably.  And that plays in.  But the labels for this nonsense, to me, are victim-complex and self-centeredness.
    Agree across the board.  I think MTG is racist based on her comments about the space lasers and the Rothsteins, who are always the scapegoats. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385
    edited May 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    There’s an argument for these nuts not being anti-Semitic. It’s that they legitimately believe they are every bit as persecuted as the Jews under Hitler.  Anecdotally, I feel like I am seeing these people buying into their (and their idol’s) own victim complex.  I think we’ve learned that there’s a correlation between these people and self-centeredness / lack of empathy for anyone but themselves. I think they can barely even recognize the what happened in the holocaust because it didn’t impact them directly.

    Are a lot of them anti-Semites?  Probably.  And that plays in.  But the labels for this nonsense, to me, are victim-complex and self-centeredness.
    Agree across the board.  I think MTG is racist based on her comments about the space lasers and the Rothsteins, who are always the scapegoats. 
    I'm not sure who the Rothsteins are but I believe you meant the Rothschilds.
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