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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.0 -
It seems pretty clear to me that Dr. FAUCI worked closely with the lab in Wuhan to create the virus that would inevitably steal the 2020 presidential election from God's Gift.
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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.0 -
mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.
Trump's angle was to call anything that reflected poorly on him as fake.
I'm not sure exactly what you read or watched that led you to the statement you made. Did NBC say no way was the virus created in a lab? Not to my knowledge. Did they say that the NIH never provided funding to any work in Wuhan? Certainly not. We had observers there for a reason. So what was fake?
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HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.doesnt mean the news that is presented is fake. it means the editorial staff like tv producers have an eye on the bottom line that click bait can bring._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.Like really, a worldwide, super-contagious virus. Which is it’s most likely origin? Lab-experiments that got out of hand, or a bunch of animals in a wet market shitting and bleeding on each other?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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HughFreakingDillon said:I'll admit....I don't know who to believe now.
https://youtu.be/hn3XHdqyaxw
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.
Trump's angle was to call anything that reflected poorly on him as fake.
I'm not sure exactly what you read or watched that led you to the statement you made. Did NBC say no way was the virus created in a lab? Not to my knowledge. Did they say that the NIH never provided funding to any work in Wuhan? Certainly not. We had observers there for a reason. So what was fake?There was a piece on 60 minutes a month or so ago that detailed the investigation into the Wuhan lab. From the bits I saw it appears there are still many questions to be answered and the access they were granted was not typical.Edit to include link:Post edited by FiveBelow on0 -
FiveBelow said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.
Trump's angle was to call anything that reflected poorly on him as fake.
I'm not sure exactly what you read or watched that led you to the statement you made. Did NBC say no way was the virus created in a lab? Not to my knowledge. Did they say that the NIH never provided funding to any work in Wuhan? Certainly not. We had observers there for a reason. So what was fake?There was a piece on 60 minutes a month or so ago that detailed the investigation into the Wuhan lab. From the bits I saw it appears there are still many questions to be answered and the access they were granted was not typical.Edit to include link:0 -
Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.Like really, a worldwide, super-contagious virus. Which is it’s most likely origin? Lab-experiments that got out of hand, or a bunch of animals in a wet market shitting and bleeding on each other?0 -
Are people in the US still call it "The China virus" or whatever Trump made sure to call it? Or did that die out when he went away?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.
Trump's angle was to call anything that reflected poorly on him as fake.
I'm not sure exactly what you read or watched that led you to the statement you made. Did NBC say no way was the virus created in a lab? Not to my knowledge. Did they say that the NIH never provided funding to any work in Wuhan? Certainly not. We had observers there for a reason. So what was fake?
no, I don't think CNN and NBC et al are fake news, or the bastion of non partisan news. I mentioned at the beginning of trump's term how I couldn't watch CNN anymore (or anything that leans left) as it was just so sensational it was like watching a fucking soap opera. the sky was always falling. I just mean that his assertion as such and the constant beatings over the head we've all been taking from Trumpkins about "fake news", coupled with the drama in the media, has really kind of opened my eyes that the news is more partisan than I thought it was.
did I obviously know that MSM generally leans left? Yes. Was I aware just HOW left? Maybe not.
as I did state before, yes, everything trump called fake was simply because of his own ego. we all know that.
was anyone's belief structure about Fauci or any other "covid celebrities" very firm from the start? I wouldn't say it was. I would say I gave him and the rest the benefit of the doubt. I generally hold scientists and researches in fairly high esteem.
I still don't think Fauci had anything to do with the virus. He seems very transparent, and is more than willing to withstand hours upon hours of Republican theatrics without so much as a quiver.
I just meant after a year and almost a half of this shit, I would have expected more to come out via virologists/scientists in the know, if in fact there are. And I'm pretty sure there are, and not just in China.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.
and no, I'm not talking about how they never spoke good about him. I mean how there is so much they don't report on.
not to mention the potential corruption/enabling in the scientific community.Like really, a worldwide, super-contagious virus. Which is it’s most likely origin? Lab-experiments that got out of hand, or a bunch of animals in a wet market shitting and bleeding on each other?0 -
mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:Another gotcha moment that simpletons can latch on to without actually listening and doing their own research on the topic. Soundbytes are a shit way to gain information. Thankfully they've been mostly replaced by Tweets
2. Even the article admits that there is no real proof of either theory of the origin.
3. Fauci doesn't argue that the NIH didn't provide funding, but says that what grant specified is not Gain of Function, whereas the author states that it is. I have no clue who is right.
2. correct, but the facts and odds it bears out sure leans heavily towards lab origin
3. me neither. but this is the most damning thing I've seen that is even remotely credible that the right has been saying all along.0 -
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I recalled a story from earlier in the pandemic that my city, Winnipeg, had a strange connection to all of this that many seemed suspect.
There were two Japanese virologists that work in a BSL4 lab here in Winnipeg, really close to my house actually, that made multiple trips to and from Wuhan, and shortly after the pandemic began, it was reported they were dismissed in July 2019 after one of them shipped samples of Ebola and Henipah viruses to Wuhan and everything involved in that is still hush hush.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/phac-wuhan-capacity-1.6022149
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