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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    That is a terrible comparison. Going to a show fully vaccinated is the same as playing Russian roulette? 
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    dankind said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/03/ashish-jha-herd-immunity/amp

    Good read on why not reaching a herd immunity threshold isn’t as big of a disaster as some may feel it is, and why even herd immunity isn’t a miracle solution that will magically end coronavirus

    He also states in some of his other tweets that he feels reaching the 50% vaccinated as a country threshold will cause a sharp decline in cases and transmission.  The USA won’t achieve the what is now expected to be 80% for herd immunity, but we are on the verge (and in some states already there) of hitting the 50% mark
    I don't think it's a disaster, particularly if the virus continues to be fatal to the unvaccinated.

    It could help eradicate the real disease infecting our nation through the process of natural selection.

    "Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."

    I thought that type of humor was not allowed ;)
    Humor?
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,069
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    Oh so you have empirical data that this is being driven by the Sanders Cortez wing of the dem party? Where’d you get that?  Last I heard over half of republicans that were polled said they weren’t getting the vaccine, because mah rights.  Turns out it was just young left leaning Dems all along. Lol
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,764
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    Oh so you have empirical data that this is being driven by the Sanders Cortez wing of the dem party? Where’d you get that?  Last I heard over half of republicans that were polled said they weren’t getting the vaccine, because mah rights.  Turns out it was just young left leaning Dems all along. Lol
    Fuggin libz
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    Oh so you have empirical data that this is being driven by the Sanders Cortez wing of the dem party? Where’d you get that?  Last I heard over half of republicans that were polled said they weren’t getting the vaccine, because mah rights.  Turns out it was just young left leaning Dems all along. Lol


    18 to 40 yo's just admitted to vaccine eligibility, and it went from a six week wait in NY to they can’t give it away with walk in access. Can’t prove it’s young adults, can’t I?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    That is a terrible comparison. Going to a show fully vaccinated is the same as playing Russian roulette? 

    I agree It’s not the best, but we will not know when the vaccine starts to lose effectiveness until it does and we are out of luck. And it’s likely to occur at events that test the virus the most.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html

    "Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

    Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers."

    Exceptional!
    Sad and pathetic.  People choosing their own demise.  

    First doses have fallen off a cliff, down by over half, and this is right after vaccines became available to young adults. Remember the good old days of 2019 when it was thought the Bernie and AOC wings of the political spectrum were perceived as caring about the planet? Not so much anymore.

    With vaccines flatlining and major areas like NY reopening, it seems this is the tolerated level of covid, about 500 daily deaths and 50k cases. 

    It will be just one more thing that could end us rather quickly. But in this case it tougher to address, it’s not as simple as driving slower, eating healthier or less sugar. 40 percent of the country has spoken and they don’t give a fk.

    porch section is gung ho for large concerts ASAP . The irony is going to shows will be like playing Russian roulette with the longer term vaccine effectiveness and my neighbor not giving a damn. It funny remembering the Hyde show they just streamed for free, with Ed interrupting the show often, telling is to take care of our neighbors. Entirely new world now, Ed.
    Oh so you have empirical data that this is being driven by the Sanders Cortez wing of the dem party? Where’d you get that?  Last I heard over half of republicans that were polled said they weren’t getting the vaccine, because mah rights.  Turns out it was just young left leaning Dems all along. Lol


    18 to 40 yo's just admitted to vaccine eligibility, and it went from a six week wait in NY to they can’t give it away with walk in access. Can’t prove it’s young adults, can’t I?
    That's not evidence.  There's an old saying in stats.. correlation not causation.  

    It's not to say that younger adults won't have a lower vaccine rate than older adults, but your statement is not direct evidence of it.  Nor is it nationwide.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    dankind said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/03/ashish-jha-herd-immunity/amp

    Good read on why not reaching a herd immunity threshold isn’t as big of a disaster as some may feel it is, and why even herd immunity isn’t a miracle solution that will magically end coronavirus

    He also states in some of his other tweets that he feels reaching the 50% vaccinated as a country threshold will cause a sharp decline in cases and transmission.  The USA won’t achieve the what is now expected to be 80% for herd immunity, but we are on the verge (and in some states already there) of hitting the 50% mark
    I don't think it's a disaster, particularly if the virus continues to be fatal to the unvaccinated.

    It could help eradicate the real disease infecting our nation through the process of natural selection.

    "Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."
    People are fed up now.  1% infection rate in NY.  Everything is opening back up the 17th this month.

    You aren't going to find a bunch of gung-ho people that are wearing a mask or even vaccinating now if they weren't before.
  • mickeyrat
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    dankind said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/03/ashish-jha-herd-immunity/amp

    Good read on why not reaching a herd immunity threshold isn’t as big of a disaster as some may feel it is, and why even herd immunity isn’t a miracle solution that will magically end coronavirus

    He also states in some of his other tweets that he feels reaching the 50% vaccinated as a country threshold will cause a sharp decline in cases and transmission.  The USA won’t achieve the what is now expected to be 80% for herd immunity, but we are on the verge (and in some states already there) of hitting the 50% mark
    I don't think it's a disaster, particularly if the virus continues to be fatal to the unvaccinated.

    It could help eradicate the real disease infecting our nation through the process of natural selection.

    "Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."
    People are fed up now.  1% infection rate in NY.  Everything is opening back up the 17th this month.

    You aren't going to find a bunch of gung-ho people that are wearing a mask or even vaccinating now if they weren't before.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/03/ashish-jha-herd-immunity/amp

    Good read on why not reaching a herd immunity threshold isn’t as big of a disaster as some may feel it is, and why even herd immunity isn’t a miracle solution that will magically end coronavirus

    He also states in some of his other tweets that he feels reaching the 50% vaccinated as a country threshold will cause a sharp decline in cases and transmission.  The USA won’t achieve the what is now expected to be 80% for herd immunity, but we are on the verge (and in some states already there) of hitting the 50% mark
    I don't think it's a disaster, particularly if the virus continues to be fatal to the unvaccinated.

    It could help eradicate the real disease infecting our nation through the process of natural selection.

    "Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."

    I thought that type of humor was not allowed ;)
    Humor?
    You’re right, it should be “humour” 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,807
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/03/ashish-jha-herd-immunity/amp

    Good read on why not reaching a herd immunity threshold isn’t as big of a disaster as some may feel it is, and why even herd immunity isn’t a miracle solution that will magically end coronavirus

    He also states in some of his other tweets that he feels reaching the 50% vaccinated as a country threshold will cause a sharp decline in cases and transmission.  The USA won’t achieve the what is now expected to be 80% for herd immunity, but we are on the verge (and in some states already there) of hitting the 50% mark
    I don't think it's a disaster, particularly if the virus continues to be fatal to the unvaccinated.

    It could help eradicate the real disease infecting our nation through the process of natural selection.

    "Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."
    People are fed up now.  1% infection rate in NY.  Everything is opening back up the 17th this month.

    You aren't going to find a bunch of gung-ho people that are wearing a mask or even vaccinating now if they weren't before.


    People are fed up.  :lol:   

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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
    I feel the same about the polio "vaccine".. snark.  sure right.. it's a vaccine. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,400
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
    So 1340 idiots
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,764

    If you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 

    There's no two ways around it. 
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    So, how do we convince these people to get the shot?  Imagine spending $1Billion for vaccine confidence, yet they cannot find anyone to vaccinate anymore.  Somebody(ies) has made a whole lot of money in the past year...

    https://www.congress.gov/117/bills/hr1319/BILLS-117hr1319enr.pdf
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
    So 1340 idiots

    If you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 

    There's no two ways around it. 
    Because name calling works!?!
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,764
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
    So 1340 idiots

    If you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 

    There's no two ways around it. 
    Because name calling works!?!
    I'm done trying to convince anyone of anything. 

    & I stand by what I said, if you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    Military installation near me had 1,500 shots to give out on Saturday....  Gave out 160...  Gonna have to find more "carrots"...  The gig is almost up!
    So 1340 idiots

    If you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 

    There's no two ways around it. 
    Because name calling works!?!
    I'm done trying to convince anyone of anything. 

    & I stand by what I said, if you think the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, you're an idiot. 
    As Eddie once said, "fuck those tomorrow people."
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