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I read the link to the actual article that doesn’t support the BS at all.F Me In The Brain said:static111 said:
So what’s the medical consensus or am I supposed to take one guys opinion because he had a heart attack?gvn2fly1421 said:
lol, yeah, this guy, the one who had a heart attack and is attributing it to the vaccine with many more in the hospital he is at... Keep looking at that headline though...static111 said:
This guy links a headline and not the actual story...gvn2fly1421 said:Tweet sharing and surface thoughts are the way of the day, don't you know?Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:
I read the link to the actual article that doesn’t support the BS at all.F Me In The Brain said:static111 said:
So what’s the medical consensus or am I supposed to take one guys opinion because he had a heart attack?gvn2fly1421 said:
lol, yeah, this guy, the one who had a heart attack and is attributing it to the vaccine with many more in the hospital he is at... Keep looking at that headline though...static111 said:
This guy links a headline and not the actual story...gvn2fly1421 said:Tweet sharing and surface thoughts are the way of the day, don't you know?
Yeah, I posted it with insight to the same end point. Total fucking bullshit to share in that fashion....but that is the way some people like to do it, these days. Surface thoughts only!
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Trained to consume news and expect it to be delivered with nuance in 140 characters or less. Gotta love it.F Me In The Brain said:static111 said:
I read the link to the actual article that doesn’t support the BS at all.F Me In The Brain said:static111 said:
So what’s the medical consensus or am I supposed to take one guys opinion because he had a heart attack?gvn2fly1421 said:
lol, yeah, this guy, the one who had a heart attack and is attributing it to the vaccine with many more in the hospital he is at... Keep looking at that headline though...static111 said:
This guy links a headline and not the actual story...gvn2fly1421 said:Tweet sharing and surface thoughts are the way of the day, don't you know?
Yeah, I posted it with insight to the same end point. Total fucking bullshit to share in that fashion....but that is the way some people like to do it, these days. Surface thoughts only!'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Employees in BC are now eligible for 3 hours of paid time off to get vaccinated. A helpful support in my opinion, though people may also need paid time off to deal with side effects if they are hard hit, as some are.
https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04/28/bc-workers-paid-leave-covid-19-immunizations/
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He is now out of the hospital and thanks. I guess I should of clarified by fall out I meant with our inner circle. It is pretty divided as it is and something like that would definitely of swayed some on the fence family members and friends to not get the vaccine. We have a couple of people just waiting for something like that to happen to shove it in peoples faces and say I told you so. I do not think it would of made headlines but I know some would complain that it had not. It might seem like a small thing but I am so damn happy he did not get that shot yet.Merkin Baller said:
It's a fact that strokes and heart attacks and communism and sex changes are caused by the covid vaccine.PJNB said:My wife's grandfather had a stroke a couple of weeks ago. He is had been 100% healthy his whole life. He was going to get the vaccine a week before the stroke but decided to procrastinate and get it later. What if he did get that vaccine a week before though? Would he have made the headlines for having a stroke after getting the shot? Vaccinated such a large number of the population are we not going to have these scary headlines since this stuff just naturally happens to even healthy people and would of happened anyways shot or not?
I am really curious if her grandfather would of got that shot and had a stroke what the fall out would have been.
It's good your wife's grandfather didn't get the vaccine otherwise he would be your socialist grandmother.
hope he's doing ok, btw.0 -
Unfortunately there is a lot of this. Anti-vaxxers waiting for the "I told you so" moment with the supposed vaccine risks. Folks that don't want things to open up waiting for the "I told you so" moment after a ballgame or a concert they feel happened too fast. It has become quite a shit show.PJNB said:
He is now out of the hospital and thanks. I guess I should of clarified by fall out I meant with our inner circle. It is pretty divided as it is and something like that would definitely of swayed some on the fence family members and friends to not get the vaccine. We have a couple of people just waiting for something like that to happen to shove it in peoples faces and say I told you so. I do not think it would of made headlines but I know some would complain that it had not. It might seem like a small thing but I am so damn happy he did not get that shot yet.Merkin Baller said:
It's a fact that strokes and heart attacks and communism and sex changes are caused by the covid vaccine.PJNB said:My wife's grandfather had a stroke a couple of weeks ago. He is had been 100% healthy his whole life. He was going to get the vaccine a week before the stroke but decided to procrastinate and get it later. What if he did get that vaccine a week before though? Would he have made the headlines for having a stroke after getting the shot? Vaccinated such a large number of the population are we not going to have these scary headlines since this stuff just naturally happens to even healthy people and would of happened anyways shot or not?
I am really curious if her grandfather would of got that shot and had a stroke what the fall out would have been.
It's good your wife's grandfather didn't get the vaccine otherwise he would be your socialist grandmother.
hope he's doing ok, btw.
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The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
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Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.
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Damn, I was waiting for catturd's explanation of the data and links because I knew the OP wasn't going to provide it. Thanks for ruining my afternoon.oftenreading said:
Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Damn, I was waiting for catturd's explanation of the data and links because I knew the OP wasn't going to provide it. Thanks for ruining my afternoon.oftenreading said:
Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.
Not to worry, I'm sure more will be coming soon.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
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Oh look, new deflection after bullshit debunked! You have no shame or are incapable of embarrassment. It's very impressive.gvn2fly1421 said:0 -
mrussel1 said:
Oh look, new deflection after bullshit debunked! You have no shame or are incapable of embarrassment. It's very impressive.gvn2fly1421 said:
Whenever one point is proven wrong, it's just on to the next! A fun game for some I'm sure.
I only reply now when I think that the other folks here might be interested in accurate info. I am under no illusions that it will influence the wave of bs at all.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Isn't that a prerequisite to vote for Trump?mrussel1 said:
Oh look, new deflection after bullshit debunked! You have no shame or are incapable of embarrassment. It's very impressive.gvn2fly1421 said:0 -
Are they implying that a specimen testing above this cycle cannot be reliably sequenced, therefore suggesting just "dead nucleotides'? Does that not undermine the entire narrative from the past year and really make it look like a "case"demic?oftenreading said:
Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.0 -
I, for one, often, appreciate the info. thanks!oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:
Oh look, new deflection after bullshit debunked! You have no shame or are incapable of embarrassment. It's very impressive.gvn2fly1421 said:
Whenever one point is proven wrong, it's just on to the next! A fun game for some I'm sure.
I only reply now when I think that the other folks here might be interested in accurate info. I am under no illusions that it will influence the wave of bs at all.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:
Oh look, new deflection after bullshit debunked! You have no shame or are incapable of embarrassment. It's very impressive.gvn2fly1421 said:
Whenever one point is proven wrong, it's just on to the next! A fun game for some I'm sure.
I only reply now when I think that the other folks here might be interested in accurate info. I am under no illusions that it will influence the wave of bs at all.A troll's troll. Sure it is all about trying to get as many of us to respond with some level of sincerity to the most ridiculous things he can find while sitting on a toilet during a break in the day.We likely provide lots of laughs!The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
ALMOST 600,000 EXCESS DEATHSgvn2fly1421 said:
Are they implying that a specimen testing above this cycle cannot be reliably sequenced, therefore suggesting just "dead nucleotides'? Does that not undermine the entire narrative from the past year and really make it look like a "case"demic?oftenreading said:
Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.
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You're pissing into the wind, just ignore.PJNB said:
ALMOST 600,000 EXCESS DEATHSgvn2fly1421 said:
Are they implying that a specimen testing above this cycle cannot be reliably sequenced, therefore suggesting just "dead nucleotides'? Does that not undermine the entire narrative from the past year and really make it look like a "case"demic?oftenreading said:
Wrong, again.gvn2fly1421 said:The science has changed again...
The full link from the tweets from the cdc regarding breakthrough cases...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
And the standards that we have been using the past year...
The CDC says that it will do genomic sequencing on samples with an RT-PCR ct value less than 28, not that it won't count the cases.
It's amazing what you would learn if you read what you posted.
SARS-CoV-2 sequence data
• Some COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases will have SARS-CoV-2 sequencing performed at a clinical, public health, or commercial reference laboratory. • For cases with sequence data that are already available, please provide the SARS-CoV-2 lineage and GISAID or GenBank accession number to the state health department.
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing • Specimen selection o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.
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