The coronavirus

Ledbetterman10

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

I don’t see how playing up the fear of a global pandemic that has killed 3M worldwide & upwards of 600K domestically is the same as downplaying it which has absolutely led to more deaths, but if bill maher said it, then it must be true. 

No ones saying it must be true if he said it. But other than the Tucker Carlsons of the world, no one on TV is gonna call out the left-leaning media for anything.

I’m all for calling out bullshit, and I’m no fan of far left media either... but do you genuinely believe the right wing (both media & politicians) downplaying of this pandemic & spread of misinformation hasn’t contributed to the death toll and made recovery more difficult?

No I think it has contributed. Especially Trump. 

Agreed; with that in mind, I don’t understand how one could entertain the conversation that the left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s, when the right’s is adding to the death toll & making recovery more difficult. 

& if the tucker carlsons of the world, being as far to the right as they are, are the only ones calling out the left leaning media, maybe the left leaning media isn’t leaning nearly as left as the tucker carlsons of the world want you to believe. 

By Tucker Carlsons of the world. I mean everyone on the right. They all call it out (sometimes it’s overkill) but people who don’t watch that stuff would never know. So Maher is at least speaking to a different audience.  

Merkin Baller

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

I don’t see how playing up the fear of a global pandemic that has killed 3M worldwide & upwards of 600K domestically is the same as downplaying it which has absolutely led to more deaths, but if bill maher said it, then it must be true. 

No ones saying it must be true if he said it. But other than the Tucker Carlsons of the world, no one on TV is gonna call out the left-leaning media for anything.

I’m all for calling out bullshit, and I’m no fan of far left media either... but do you genuinely believe the right wing (both media & politicians) downplaying of this pandemic & spread of misinformation hasn’t contributed to the death toll and made recovery more difficult?

No I think it has contributed. Especially Trump. 

Agreed; with that in mind, I don’t understand how one could entertain the conversation that the left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s, when the right’s is adding to the death toll & making recovery more difficult. 

& if the tucker carlsons of the world, being as far to the right as they are, are the only ones calling out the left leaning media, maybe the left leaning media isn’t leaning nearly as left as the tucker carlsons of the world want you to believe. 

By Tucker Carlsons of the world. I mean everyone on the right. They all call it out (sometimes it’s overkill) but people who don’t watch that stuff would never know. So Maher is at least speaking to a different audience.  

Great, but the message he’s putting out to that different audience, that the coverage from both sides is equally bad is bullshit. 

The coverage from the right is demonstrably worse. It’s contributing to the death toll & making recovery more difficult. 

I’m all for fair criticism, but that’s not what this is, this is false equivalency. 

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

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PJNB said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Of course it is. 

How can you say this? While one side is definitely laying on the fear and no hope angle the other side is actually killing people by downplaying the virus. 

For the record I am sick of both sides coverage on this long ago. 

I agree with the bolded wholeheartedly. We’re both saying it. Fear and no hope angle and the constant overload of this type of coverage could lead to things like depression, suicide, drug overdose etc...  both sides overplayed their hand to the point of hurting people in different ways, all for ratings essentially imo. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with the doomsday coverage. 

Except suicides went down in 2020. So yea, both sides. And what’s all this “no hope” bullshit being spewed? I haven’t seen that at all. Go live your life. Sheesh.

Cool thanks 

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

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dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

He still exists? People watch/listen? I thought he was cancelled long ago?

Is that from yesterday or 2006ish. Can’t keep up with the PJ porn. My arm is tired.

He spent like every New Years with Maher for the past decade. As for you dismissing him (“does he still exist?”), that’s not surprising since what he’s said here isn’t towing the party line. In fact, he actually gives a little credit to DeSantis. DESANTIS?!?! But he’s an evil Republican! 

Relax big boy, I honestly didn’t know he’s still on air. I don’t have HBO. And I’m not all that into PJ porn. Elitist gonna elite? 

PJ porn. Whatever the hell that means. 

I think it means knowing who and how EV spends New Year’s Eve?

Hobbes

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

He still exists? People watch/listen? I thought he was cancelled long ago?

Is that from yesterday or 2006ish. Can’t keep up with the PJ porn. My arm is tired.

He spent like every New Years with Maher for the past decade. As for you dismissing him (“does he still exist?”), that’s not surprising since what he’s said here isn’t towing the party line. In fact, he actually gives a little credit to DeSantis. DESANTIS?!?! But he’s an evil Republican! 

Relax big boy, I honestly didn’t know he’s still on air. I don’t have HBO. And I’m not all that into PJ porn. Elitist gonna elite? 

PJ porn. Whatever the hell that means. 

I think it means knowing who and how EV spends New Year’s Eve?

Halifax2TheMax

PJNB said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

PJNB said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Of course it is. 

How can you say this? While one side is definitely laying on the fear and no hope angle the other side is actually killing people by downplaying the virus. 

For the record I am sick of both sides coverage on this long ago. 

I agree with the bolded wholeheartedly. We’re both saying it. Fear and no hope angle and the constant overload of this type of coverage could lead to things like depression, suicide, drug overdose etc...  both sides overplayed their hand to the point of hurting people in different ways, all for ratings essentially imo. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with the doomsday coverage. 

Except suicides went down in 2020. So yea, both sides. And what’s all this “no hope” bullshit being spewed? I haven’t seen that at all. Go live your life. Sheesh.

Thanks for the advice. 

Isn’t that what we’ve been told by the virus is going to virus crowd? And what is this “doom and gloom, there’s no hope” reporting you’re (General you) going on about? Reporting what we know about covid, it’s impact in lives lost, how it’s mutated and why that’s a problem, etc? No hope? I’m not getting any of that from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, The New Yorker, or USA Today, WSJ, Times Colonist, etc. Or from well established science foundations and leading research universities. No hope? Get off Doom Book and Doom Twit.

RoleModelsinBlood31

part one of CNN’s fear and propaganda with mr James O’Keefe

gotta scroll down to find the vid but it’s no shock, we know CNN isn’t NEWS, it’s only propaganda for political purposes.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/project-veritas-says-it-caught-cnn-staffer-admitting-network-pushed-anti-trump-propaganda

F Me In The Brain

Hobbes said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

He still exists? People watch/listen? I thought he was cancelled long ago?

Is that from yesterday or 2006ish. Can’t keep up with the PJ porn. My arm is tired.

He spent like every New Years with Maher for the past decade. As for you dismissing him (“does he still exist?”), that’s not surprising since what he’s said here isn’t towing the party line. In fact, he actually gives a little credit to DeSantis. DESANTIS?!?! But he’s an evil Republican! 

Relax big boy, I honestly didn’t know he’s still on air. I don’t have HBO. And I’m not all that into PJ porn. Elitist gonna elite? 

PJ porn. Whatever the hell that means. 

I think it means knowing who and how EV spends New Year’s Eve?

Ha.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Oooohh part 2!!

https://nypost.com/2021/04/14/cnn-staffer-tells-project-veritas-network-played-up-covid-19-death-toll-for-ratings/

PJNB

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Oooohh part 2!!

https://nypost.com/2021/04/14/cnn-staffer-tells-project-veritas-network-played-up-covid-19-death-toll-for-ratings/

And Fox downplayed them. Why are you not posting about that?

PJNB

Halifax2TheMax said:

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nicknyr15 said:

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nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Of course it is. 

How can you say this? While one side is definitely laying on the fear and no hope angle the other side is actually killing people by downplaying the virus. 

For the record I am sick of both sides coverage on this long ago. 

I agree with the bolded wholeheartedly. We’re both saying it. Fear and no hope angle and the constant overload of this type of coverage could lead to things like depression, suicide, drug overdose etc...  both sides overplayed their hand to the point of hurting people in different ways, all for ratings essentially imo. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with the doomsday coverage. 

Except suicides went down in 2020. So yea, both sides. And what’s all this “no hope” bullshit being spewed? I haven’t seen that at all. Go live your life. Sheesh.

Thanks for the advice. 

Isn’t that what we’ve been told by the virus is going to virus crowd? And what is this “doom and gloom, there’s no hope” reporting you’re (General you) going on about? Reporting what we know about covid, it’s impact in lives lost, how it’s mutated and why that’s a problem, etc? No hope? I’m not getting any of that from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, The New Yorker, or USA Today, WSJ, Times Colonist, etc. Or from well established science foundations and leading research universities. No hope? Get off Doom Book and Doom Twit.

I am not sure what sites you have been looking at in the last year but if you think those sites you listed where not of the more negative manner regarding covid any chance they could get I am not sure what to tell you. From never going back to normal to variants attacking young healthy people at an alarming rate the list goes on and on. 

mcgruff10

Does it matter what vaccination we get next year?  Meaning, I got Pfizer this time around, Do I need to get Pfizer next year or will moderna be fine?  I only ask because these vaccinations are obviously so new.  

lastexitlondon

Good question 

Halifax2TheMax

PJNB said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJNB said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

PJNB said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Of course it is. 

How can you say this? While one side is definitely laying on the fear and no hope angle the other side is actually killing people by downplaying the virus. 

For the record I am sick of both sides coverage on this long ago. 

I agree with the bolded wholeheartedly. We’re both saying it. Fear and no hope angle and the constant overload of this type of coverage could lead to things like depression, suicide, drug overdose etc...  both sides overplayed their hand to the point of hurting people in different ways, all for ratings essentially imo. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with the doomsday coverage. 

Except suicides went down in 2020. So yea, both sides. And what’s all this “no hope” bullshit being spewed? I haven’t seen that at all. Go live your life. Sheesh.

Thanks for the advice. 

Isn’t that what we’ve been told by the virus is going to virus crowd? And what is this “doom and gloom, there’s no hope” reporting you’re (General you) going on about? Reporting what we know about covid, it’s impact in lives lost, how it’s mutated and why that’s a problem, etc? No hope? I’m not getting any of that from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, The New Yorker, or USA Today, WSJ, Times Colonist, etc. Or from well established science foundations and leading research universities. No hope? Get off Doom Book and Doom Twit.

I am not sure what sites you have been looking at in the last year but if you think those sites you listed where not of the more negative manner regarding covid any chance they could get I am not sure what to tell you. From never going back to normal to variants attacking young healthy people at an alarming rate the list goes on and on. 

I’ve never heard “never going back to ‘normal,’” unless it’s in the context of working from home is more readily accepted/available, that long commutes and living in expensive cities isn’t necessary to drive production, and other ways that are altered. Mask mandates will be around for awhile but will eventually become a personal choice, like many folks in Asia accept because of population density and air quality issues. Because we won’t go back to “normal” pre-pandemic isn’t doomsday  reporting, It’s reality. Have we returned to “normal” after 9/11?

Reporting on young people being hospitalized at higher rates because of the nature of the variants also isn’t doomsday reporting. It’s reporting factual information so people can make decisions about how they carry on with their lives. How they choose to do  so isn’t the responsibility of the media. Would you rather not have these facts reported? Because they’ve been reported are people not leaving their basements? 565,000 dead Americans with about a third of the population vaccinated and there’s “no hope?” Please.

mickeyrat

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.PJNB said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJNB said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

PJNB said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Bill Maher on the politics of the virus. Talking about how left-wing media’s coverage is every bit as bad as the right’s....

https://youtu.be/Qp3gy_CLXho

Of course it is. 

How can you say this? While one side is definitely laying on the fear and no hope angle the other side is actually killing people by downplaying the virus. 

For the record I am sick of both sides coverage on this long ago. 

I agree with the bolded wholeheartedly. We’re both saying it. Fear and no hope angle and the constant overload of this type of coverage could lead to things like depression, suicide, drug overdose etc...  both sides overplayed their hand to the point of hurting people in different ways, all for ratings essentially imo. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with the doomsday coverage. 

Except suicides went down in 2020. So yea, both sides. And what’s all this “no hope” bullshit being spewed? I haven’t seen that at all. Go live your life. Sheesh.

Thanks for the advice. 

Isn’t that what we’ve been told by the virus is going to virus crowd? And what is this “doom and gloom, there’s no hope” reporting you’re (General you) going on about? Reporting what we know about covid, it’s impact in lives lost, how it’s mutated and why that’s a problem, etc? No hope? I’m not getting any of that from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, The New Yorker, or USA Today, WSJ, Times Colonist, etc. Or from well established science foundations and leading research universities. No hope? Get off Doom Book and Doom Twit.

I am not sure what sites you have been looking at in the last year but if you think those sites you listed where not of the more negative manner regarding covid any chance they could get I am not sure what to tell you. From never going back to normal to variants attacking young healthy people at an alarming rate the list goes on and on. 

For those unfortunate souls who watch Bill Maher all the time like me, know he’s been on an anti left tear since the pandemic began, which he significantly escalated this year. Trump rioters invade the Capitol and four cops are dead as a result, what does Maher do the next week? Attack democrats for bad California banking regulations. His point that Desantis has done better than Cuomo regarding the aged was absurd (and this very thread is littered with my anti Cuomo comments on his handling of covid).

The list of facts Maher is ignoring here to score points against Dems is enormous. NY tests double that of FL, and FL has a much higher covid death to total test rate, which suggest FL is missing millions of covid cases, which likely means they are also not catching thousands of covid deaths. Yet currently, FL is trending up while NY is trending down. FL does not have the urban density anywhere in its state like the NY metro region which puts NY in a much higher risk than FL for transmission.

Cuomo since Labor Day has actually been aggressive by opening schools, and then relaxing the health dept rules each time they would have shut down the schools. With rising cases in the winter has he shut down schools? Nope, and every week more and more are at 100% capacity. He has even allowed HS team contact sports, which has led to many outbreaks. Although risk of transmission in a school is lower than at a restaurant, the overall risk in NY since Labor Day has been higher, since schools require staffing and vendors to stay open.  

It’s amazing someone like Maher who has banked $150 million thanks to politics, knows so little about current events in forming his “opinion of the week”

Merkin Baller

This guy & Bill Maher should get together & discuss why the media can’t be more positive about a pandemic that’s killed 3M people globally. 

mrussel1

Merkin Baller said:

This guy & Bill Maher should get together & discuss why the media can’t be more positive about a pandemic that’s killed 3M people globally. 

Finally!  Yes !  Why aren’t we focused more on all the positives of a global pandemic?  Obviously it was to hurt Trump.  

mcgruff10

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

This guy & Bill Maher should get together & discuss why the media can’t be more positive about a pandemic that’s killed 3M people globally. 

Finally!  Yes !  Why aren’t we focused more on all the positives of a global pandemic?  Obviously it was to hurt Trump.  

I saw a person post on fb yesterday that the virus was invented to ensure Trump did not win reelection.  

mrussel1

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

This guy & Bill Maher should get together & discuss why the media can’t be more positive about a pandemic that’s killed 3M people globally. 

Finally!  Yes !  Why aren’t we focused more on all the positives of a global pandemic?  Obviously it was to hurt Trump.  

I saw a person post on fb yesterday that the virus was invented to ensure Trump did not win reelection.  

The whole world conspired without the knowledge of the Trump admin.  That’s how good they are.  And 3mm were sacrificed for it.  Just to beat Trump, he was that dangerous to the elites.