The coronavirus

Hobbes

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hobbes said:

Good thinking.
Health Workers, Stuck in the Snow, Administer Coronavirus Vaccine to Stranded Drivers - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

i can't read the article (paywall). I agree it's a great idea in theory, but if they were stuck out there, what would they have done in the situation of one of the recipients experiencing an adverse event?

Doctor and ambulance on site. I would have happily rolled up my sleeve had I been in that situation. 

Halifax2TheMax

How many MIT alumnae worked in the Obama Administration and how many worked in the POOTWH Administration? How many times did Obama visit MIT to better understand scientific achievement? How many times did POOTWH? Exactly. Too bad this isn't a twitter post, it'd have more cache.

“I plan to be vaccinated as soon I can, and I am urging everyone at MIT and well beyond to get themselves vaccinated at their first opportunity,” says Institute Professor and Nobel laureate Phillip Sharp, whose pioneering research in the 1970s helped pave the way for today’s generation of mRNA vaccines. “These vaccines have been shown to reduce the risk of infection and the severity of infection. They have been produced in record time, some by local biotechnology firms with strong connections to MIT, and they are triumphs of biomedical research. Getting vaccinated is a simple step to protect yourself, and if we all do it, it will make it possible to get back to the way of life we miss so much — to work side-by-side with colleagues and students, to hug our friends, and more.”

Elazer Edelman, the Edward J. Poitras Professor in Medical Engineering and Science, director of MIT’s Institute for Medical Engineering and Science, and a practicing cardiologist at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, adds: “Our MIT community is unlike any other. Our friends and colleagues are on the front lines of providing medical care, devising new strategies for treating those who are stricken, and protecting the world around us. The world has been waiting for a vaccine for almost a year, understanding that it is only through global immunization that we can provide universal protection. Now that MIT and others have contributed to making vaccination a reality, we all have an obligation to use it as soon as possible. In this way, we simultaneously honor health care providers, scientists, and our community.”

GlowGirl

mfc2006 said:

Some good news...

My sister and I called my Mom’s doctors and nurses several times over the last couple of days to check on when she’d be able to receive the vaccine. Well, she got the call last night and is getting her first shot later today!! To say that I’m relieved is an understatement. Thank you all for your pm’s and posts of support and encouragement. It really means a lot. Sending love and hope to you all. Be well & stay safe.

Great news. My parents got their first dose last week. It is a great feeling of relief to know that they are on their way to being protected.

lastexitlondon

Father in law Pfizer vaccine  received  today. 71 years old . 

lastexitlondon

The j and j  vaccine  is cheap at £7 as its one shot thats the full cost. Thats made it available  to more. Good on them

HughFreakingDillon

Hobbes said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hobbes said:

Good thinking.
Health Workers, Stuck in the Snow, Administer Coronavirus Vaccine to Stranded Drivers - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

i can't read the article (paywall). I agree it's a great idea in theory, but if they were stuck out there, what would they have done in the situation of one of the recipients experiencing an adverse event?

Doctor and ambulance on site. I would have happily rolled up my sleeve had I been in that situation. 

yeah, in that case, for sure. 

Meltdown99

Just announced...

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced new COVID-19 border measures this morning:

- Canadian airlines including Air Canada, Westjet, Sunwing and Air Transat are cancelling air service to all Caribbean destinations and Mexico starting this Sunday and lasting through April 30th

- All international passenger flights must land in Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto or Montreal

- The government will soon introduce mandatory COVID-19 testing at airports for people coming into Canada and travellers will have to wait in hotels for test results for up to 3 days at their own expense (expected to be more than $2,000, he says)

- If negative, travellers will be able to quarantine at home with "significantly increased surveillance and enforcement"

- If positive, travellers will be required to quarantine in designated government facilities to "make sure they're not carrying [COVID-19] variants of potential concern"

- The government will soon require non-essential travellers to show a negative test entering at land borders with the U.S. and Trudeau says they're working on additional testing requirements soon

Long overdue..

oftenreading

Meltdown99 said:

Just announced...

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced new COVID-19 border measures this morning:

- Canadian airlines including Air Canada, Westjet, Sunwing and Air Transat are cancelling air service to all Caribbean destinations and Mexico starting this Sunday and lasting through April 30th

- All international passenger flights must land in Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto or Montreal

- The government will soon introduce mandatory COVID-19 testing at airports for people coming into Canada and travellers will have to wait in hotels for test results for up to 3 days at their own expense (expected to be more than $2,000, he says)

- If negative, travellers will be able to quarantine at home with "significantly increased surveillance and enforcement"

- If positive, travellers will be required to quarantine in designated government facilities to "make sure they're not carrying [COVID-19] variants of potential concern"

- The government will soon require non-essential travellers to show a negative test entering at land borders with the U.S. and Trudeau says they're working on additional testing requirements soon

Long overdue..

Sounds like reasonable steps. Cases from international arrivals are a tiny minority of cases so this is not really going to do much of anything to reduce cases and certainly won't stop spread within the country, but given all of the howls to tighten up the border this plan is a reasonable compromise.

I'm guessing that the $2000 cost for three days in the hotel does not in fact mean it's an absolutely fabulous hotel, though

(Edit: I thought international arrivals were already only going through those 4 airports)

Meltdown99

Moderna to cut deliveries to Canada in new blow to vaccination campaign

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/moderna-cut-deliveries-to-canada-1.5893307

my dad is 86 and has severe asthma.  He lives in his own home (thankfully)...he has no idea when or if he‘ll get the vaccine this year.

a fact the Ontario government leaves out...90% of seniors live outside LTC homes.  So vaccinating long term care homes was very necessary...we are no where even close to getting our seniors vaccinated.  

Many more will die, sadly...





Ontario somehow double counted the doses administered...

At this point it’s a clusterfuck in Canada..

Spunkie

^^ We're opening up land borders to non essential travel now, for travellers with negative tests?

I'm gonna catch up on news because a quick glance shows maybe the essential travellers at land borders will have heightened testing negative restrictions.

Edit: I guess that means essential travelers don't need further testing. And the non essential family unification etc get tests...

Spunkie

Reading, the 4 airports only now includes the US who had more options before.

Edit: I guess the travel restrictions aimed at keeping variants out overshadowed the fact that Massachusett's just f@cked Canada out of their Moderna vaccine timeline.

dankind

tish said:

Reading, the 4 airports only now includes the US who had more options before.

Edit: I guess the travel restrictions aimed at keeping variants out overshadowed the fact that Massachusett's just f@cked Canada out of their Moderna vaccine timeline.

lastexit78

Just curious what some of your thoughts are on the media's reporting of the pandemic? I've always been pro journalism but really, what the hell is going on? Do they enjoy having this grip on peoples lives? I've noticed a trend in which you'll see days where they promote a hopefully vision, then immediately followed the next day by doomsday scenarios. Back and forth, back and forth all while the actual status of the pandemic has changed little since late November. Clearly it has become a game in which they play on peoples emotions. I think most of us understand this is going to be LONG road to recovery. Most of us wear masks, distance and have accepted things are going to suck for a while. Those in the hoax crowd are not going to change course because the news keeps beating a dead horse. Take today for instance, J&J releases vaccine trial results showing ZERO of their 44,000 participants contracted a case of Covid severe enough to be hospitalized. Great news right? Go read various headlines right now and tell me that's how it's being spun. A trial that was done in much more realistic conditions than Moderna or Pfizer. They even had the balls to go to South Africa and test it on the scariest known variant. The results come back exceptional and the media spins them as poor. Meanwhile every allergic reaction is a headline. Does mainstream media benefit if the pandemic rages on another two years? Is this the logic behind their clearly jaded reporting? As someone who drifts around the dial for various viewpoints it's become obvious the media has a stake in this pandemic. To the point where they can control the narrative, regardless of what data science actually provides us with, good or bad. 

Spunkie

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oftenreading

lastexit78 said:

Just curious what some of your thoughts are on the media's reporting of the pandemic? I've always been pro journalism but really, what the hell is going on? Do they enjoy having this grip on peoples lives? I've noticed a trend in which you'll see days where they promote a hopefully vision, then immediately followed the next day by doomsday scenarios. Back and forth, back and forth all while the actual status of the pandemic has changed little since late November. Clearly it has become a game in which they play on peoples emotions. I think most of us understand this is going to be LONG road to recovery. Most of us wear masks, distance and have accepted things are going to suck for a while. Those in the hoax crowd are not going to change course because the news keeps beating a dead horse. Take today for instance, J&J releases vaccine trial results showing ZERO of their 44,000 participants contracted a case of Covid severe enough to be hospitalized. Great news right? Go read various headlines right now and tell me that's how it's being spun. A trial that was done in much more realistic conditions than Moderna or Pfizer. They even had the balls to go to South Africa and test it on the scariest known variant. The results come back exceptional and the media spins them as poor. Meanwhile every allergic reaction is a headline. Does mainstream media benefit if the pandemic rages on another two years? Is this the logic behind their clearly jaded reporting? As someone who drifts around the dial for various viewpoints it's become obvious the media has a stake in this pandemic. To the point where they can control the narrative, regardless of what data science actually provides us with, good or bad. 

As said earlier (maybe in a different thread; if so, my apologies), science reporting is generally terrible. The majority of media outlets don't know how to accurately report on scientific findings in a balanced way, so they naturally revert to their usual go-to of seizing on the most worrisome or outlandish aspect of a story. 

The media benefits whenever there is a big story, and this pandemic has provided us with a story of operatic proportions, careering between dismal lows and excited highs. Get your data elsewhere.

lastexitlondon

At this point many lives depend on the  media doing an honest job. They can't seem to, so many won't  take vaccines purely on media spin. This will kill people and prolong  this whole clusterfuck.   I'm finding  it hard to see the light

23scidoo

https://youtu.be/PIcmvf7DjDs

hedonist

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/PIcmvf7DjDs

Heartbreaking.

23scidoo

hedonist said:

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/PIcmvf7DjDs

Heartbreaking.

I will not be suprised if something like that comes in our countrys..

dignin

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/health/variants-arrival-future-whats-next/index.html

A new forecast from the University of Washington's pandemic forecasting team is frightening. Even in a best-case scenario, close to another 200,000 Americans are likely to die between now and May 1.