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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    So sorry to hear that, tbergs. 
    Some people just aren’t taking it seriously at all, unfortunately. Ugh.
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  • Meltdown99
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html


    In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020. And women have been impacted most


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  • Because  they did the right thing  and got It under control 


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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,258
    Because  they did the right thing  and got It under control 
    It begs the question though whether it was the right thing to do.  Not saying it isn’t but if more people died from the the response than the virus itself then one could make an argument.  You can’t know how many would have died though from Covid without extreme measures in place.  
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,381
    Because  they did the right thing  and got It under control 
    It begs the question though whether it was the right thing to do.  Not saying it isn’t but if more people died from the the response than the virus itself then one could make an argument.  You can’t know how many would have died though from Covid without extreme measures in place.  
    Today in Japan:
    -Average population density of 346 people per square km
    -On track for 24,000 suicides this year
    -Just over 2,000 CoVID deaths this year

    Today in the USA:
    -Average population density of 36 people per square km
    -On track for an unknown number of suicides this year - presumably not lower than 2018's 46,000 (the last year data was reported)
    -Just over 265,000 CoVID deaths this year

    If you want to know how many in a high-density nation would've died without proper measures in place - just look at the US statistics. This doesn't beg any question. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,118
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/11/pandemic-restrictions-no-logic/617204/

    This is an interesting article about the arbitrariness of pandemic restrictions. 
  • 23scidoo
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,993
    Cambodia..
    323 cases..
    0 deaths..
    you want to know why??..

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  • rgambs
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    Because  they did the right thing  and got It under control 
    It begs the question though whether it was the right thing to do.  Not saying it isn’t but if more people died from the the response than the virus itself then one could make an argument.  You can’t know how many would have died though from Covid without extreme measures in place.  
    Japan has been grappling with a suicide problem for a while now.
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  • PJNB
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    More Moderna info out today. Looking at Dec 21 to give to the most vulnerable Americans and still on track for spring for everyone else. 

    11 out of 15,000 got covid with the vaccine with zero severe cases 
    185 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo with thirty severe cases and 1 death. 

    Efficacy of 94.1% against the virus and most importantly 100% efficacy against severe cases. 

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJNB said:
    More Moderna info out today. Looking at Dec 21 to give to the most vulnerable Americans and still on track for spring for everyone else. 

    11 out of 15,000 got covid with the vaccine with zero severe cases 
    185 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo with thirty severe cases and 1 death. 

    Efficacy of 94.1% against the virus and most importantly 100% efficacy against severe cases. 

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
    Those numbers are amazing. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,107
    dignin said:
    PJNB said:
    More Moderna info out today. Looking at Dec 21 to give to the most vulnerable Americans and still on track for spring for everyone else. 

    11 out of 15,000 got covid with the vaccine with zero severe cases 
    185 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo with thirty severe cases and 1 death. 

    Efficacy of 94.1% against the virus and most importantly 100% efficacy against severe cases. 

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
    Those numbers are amazing. 
    Definitely the most promising I’ve seen.  I’m really intrigued by the mRNA tech and what the future holds for other diseases.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    dignin said:
    PJNB said:
    More Moderna info out today. Looking at Dec 21 to give to the most vulnerable Americans and still on track for spring for everyone else. 

    11 out of 15,000 got covid with the vaccine with zero severe cases 
    185 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo with thirty severe cases and 1 death

    Efficacy of 94.1% against the virus and most importantly 100% efficacy against severe cases. 

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
    Those numbers are amazing. 
    Imagine being the family of a person volunteering for a study and they end up dying. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    dignin said:
    PJNB said:
    More Moderna info out today. Looking at Dec 21 to give to the most vulnerable Americans and still on track for spring for everyone else. 

    11 out of 15,000 got covid with the vaccine with zero severe cases 
    185 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo with thirty severe cases and 1 death

    Efficacy of 94.1% against the virus and most importantly 100% efficacy against severe cases. 

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/absolutely-remarkable-no-one-who-got-modernas-vaccine-trial-developed-severe-covid-19
    Those numbers are amazing. 
    Imagine being the family of a person volunteering for a study and they end up dying. 

    Without reading a word of the article, I'd have to assume that people were instructed to just go about their lives like they were already doing (or, rather, how they should have been doing), i.e., keep masking, distancing, etc. and don't get too comfortable because you may be a placebo. In other words, those that got the placebo were not put into more dangerous situations. There'd be all sorts of ethical issues with that study. That death probably would have happened, anyway.

    That said, I suppose that's got to be a tough pill to swallow...that person died and probably would not have if not for, essentially, a coin flip. (Maybe that was your point, now that I think about it)
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,259
    I hope nobody here attended cardi b 37 people thanksgiving party. If so, I’d get tested. 
  • hedonist
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    nicknyr15 said:
    I hope nobody here attended cardi b 37 people thanksgiving party. If so, I’d get tested. 
    Who doesn’t like a steaming side of WAP with their turkey?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,259
    hedonist said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I hope nobody here attended cardi b 37 people thanksgiving party. If so, I’d get tested. 
    Who doesn’t like a steaming side of WAP with their turkey?
    That’s the most disgusting sentence I’ve ever read. Well done 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    nicknyr15 said:
    hedonist said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I hope nobody here attended cardi b 37 people thanksgiving party. If so, I’d get tested. 
    Who doesn’t like a steaming side of WAP with their turkey?
    That’s the most disgusting sentence I’ve ever read. Well done 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    nicknyr15 said:
    I hope nobody here attended cardi b 37 people thanksgiving party. If so, I’d get tested. 
    For an STD? 
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Tee Hee - btw I just read stat that STIs are high in the 40 plus age group. Yikes!
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