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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,614
    Lerxst1992 said:
    AG276717 said:
    Uncle Bruce plays multiple shows at Giants Stadium/ MetLife, even though they put on a great show, it gets watered down. Fenway is more intimate, but I will always prefer an arena. 2018's Home/ Away is the max amount of stadiums PJ should play. It sounds like there will be another leg of this tour in the fall/ winter into 2021. I can see them coming back to play the midwest and other markets that got skipped on this run. 


    For all intents and purposes, the north east got skipped this tour.
    My guess for that....besides just general timing...

    1.  I think they KINDA wanted to see how this tour would go with the new process, before adding a bunch more dates or bigger venues.   As such...adding one or two massively popular shows (Nyc, bal) with little else around would give them a good measuring stick.  This tour kinda has it all.  MSG with massive demand, OKC with the least demand, a couple of double dates (la, oak), etc.  
    2.  Philly ballpark, Fenway for fall, with additional NE dates, as well as more midwest (chicago) and NW dates.  Prob Wrigley, Safeco, etc. 


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,570
    No.
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Umm, play more cities and a few more dates in the larger markets?

    When is the last time they played 1 show in NYC and none in the surrounding Philly/Boston areas?
    It has never happened before. 
    Had to be intentional, right? Like they are preserving territory for big fall shows. At least that is what I am going to keep telling myself. 
    What is the rule about festivals?  Is it 90 days or 6 months and 600 miles that a band can't play in that area?
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    Calendar is getting short if they are going to announce ballparks this year. And the schedules are filling up. 
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  • MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 630
    No.
    Lerxst1992 said:
    You got me there. Let's assume NYCFC  gets a real MLS home one day. Those stadiums look perfect for PJ shows.
    Just stop ✋ 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Umm, play more cities and a few more dates in the larger markets?

    When is the last time they played 1 show in NYC and none in the surrounding Philly/Boston areas?
    It has never happened before. 
    Had to be intentional, right? Like they are preserving territory for big fall shows. At least that is what I am going to keep telling myself. 
    What is the rule about festivals?  Is it 90 days or 6 months and 600 miles that a band can't play in that area?
    Think different fests have different rules. But that like anything else is probably negotiable. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,570
    No.
    MUZIK said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    You got me there. Let's assume NYCFC  gets a real MLS home one day. Those stadiums look perfect for PJ shows.
    Just stop ✋ 
    exactly.  Outdoor shows aren't that great...
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,744
    JimmyV said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Umm, play more cities and a few more dates in the larger markets?

    When is the last time they played 1 show in NYC and none in the surrounding Philly/Boston areas?
    It has never happened before. 
    Had to be intentional, right? Like they are preserving territory for big fall shows. At least that is what I am going to keep telling myself. 
    That’s what I was thinking.  No way they only play two north east shows this year, especially with the new record. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,570
    No.
    Nobody likes my festival take?  Anyone?  Elephant in the room, no?

    Ok , fine.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,952
    edited January 2020
    No.
    The NE Revolution play at Gillette Stadium. 

    No thanks. 
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  • whoyouare72whoyouare72 Chicago IL Posts: 2,157
    How about:
    -Alpine Valley
    -The Gorge
    -Soldier Field

  • YAKIMATSUYAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 946
    Prefer arena, but soldier field was amazing. I think red rocks would be insanely good. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,587
    No.
    The bonkers thing is just 1 NY show. Thats really weird. 
  • LostpawnLostpawn Posts: 414
    Not sure how an MLS stadium is much better than baseball / football stadiums for this purpose. MLS usually has less seating and smaller confines, but is still outdoor and thus dealing with weather and logistical concerns (e.g. no built in rafters) that arenas avoid.  Not sure how it helps, for a band that can sell out a huge stadium. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    Aren't most newer stadiums built with seats that face towards midfield? Sure, we stand most of the time but that is a tough angle when the stage is at the wrong end. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,744
    JimmyV said:
    Aren't most newer stadiums built with seats that face towards midfield? Sure, we stand most of the time but that is a tough angle when the stage is at the wrong end. 
    Isn’t that the same for basketball/hockey arenas?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    mcgruff10 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Aren't most newer stadiums built with seats that face towards midfield? Sure, we stand most of the time but that is a tough angle when the stage is at the wrong end. 
    Isn’t that the same for basketball/hockey arenas?
    Maybe. I've never noticed it as much since those are significantly smaller. 
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  • ritg19ritg19 Posts: 117
    The guys aren't going to tour as much as they used to.  We all have to come to grips with that.  They are older, have families and I'm sure want to do other things in life.  Playing large stadiums is just not something they prefer to do for extended tours and I don't blame them.  The amount of people that want to see them play vs the amount of seats per show is clearly a huge imbalance (especially in densely populated areas).  Therefore, there folks are going to be disappointed as they cannot please everyone.  I think the process has improved in trying to get tickets out of the hands of scalpers - only so much that can be done there and we always have just assume that they will find a way to get a certain % of tickets and we just deal with it.  Consider that the cost of doing business while touring.  I do think ticketmaster can add a "best available option" though :-) 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,587
    No.
    I bet they have more NY shows for the Fall leg.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,971
    They should just play in large fields. If you put all the sests in a circle and move them far enough back, everyone is in the front row, too. Solving a lot of problems that way.
  • fall by the waysidefall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 757
    No.
    The answer is playing more than 2 east coast shows. There's too much demand for this.
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  • MD190661MD190661 Posts: 394
    edited January 2020
    Stadiums suck unless you are up front. If PJ was playing in my home town in stadium and I could only get seats in the stands I'd probably skip it. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    We were as far from the stage at Fenway as you could be and it was awesome.
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  • GetRight13GetRight13 NY Posts: 588
    No.
    I think there being no Boston or Philly show really drove this MSG show demand way up, on top of the already high demand that it is.    Would be nice to see Hartford, Buffalo and Albany make a return but I think those days are over. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,587
    No.
    JimmyV said:
    We were as far from the stage at Fenway as you could be and it was awesome.
    Yeah, in my 40s, just being in the room is all I need. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,339
    Boston x2
    Hartford
    Albany
    Buffalo
    NYC x2
    Philadelphia x2

    Even with all that there would still be difficulty getting tickets.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,186
    What is the msg stubhub disaster of 2020?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • badu2fanbadu2fan Posts: 87
    This is the TOUGHEST TICKET TO SCORE TOUR TEN CLUB REJOICE and the Stadium Red State tour will be announced soon.
    Get ready for the long road!!!!
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,037
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    What is the msg stubhub disaster of 2020?
    That's  where all but a few PJ fans got screwed by TM selling all the tickets to stubhub
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