New Lottery Process - Key Learnings
BennyLaRue
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I'm consolidating all the tips and stuff we've learned about the lottery process so far in one place. Some of the tips are the same as the old process. Not going to speculate about odds or what BA means or TM's mistakes or how winners are selected - lots of people think they know but until 10C explains, we can't be sure. You might have heard of an exception but they'd be rare, maybe hearsay, and if true, we might not know why they exist. Hope this helps.
1) 10C Seniority - It is NOT a factor when it comes to your odds of getting tickets. It is only a factor in how good your reserved seats will be if you win them.
2) You need to read - Slowly and carefully. Follow instructions to the letter. Assume nothing. There are always good reasons for why you're told to do something whether you see the logic in it or not. One thing that tripped up many people - make sure your shows are ranked in the priority you intend. After you pick your shows, there is a separate screen dedicated to this. You can prioritize your shows by dragging and dropping them into the order you wish. If you don't prioritize, it seems to default to chronological order.
3) Missing an email? - Check your spam folder.
4) General Admission - It is NOT a good idea to put in for GA with anything less than Priority 1 if GA odds are less than 99%. The odds are extremely low, maybe non-existent, that you'll get those other shows after Priority 1.
5) Confirmation you entered the lottery - Once you successfully enter the lottery, you'll get a Confirmation Submission email that...confirms your selections. If you didn't get one, see #3. Still didn't get one? Maybe you didn't actually complete all the steps and should try again.
6) Time of entry and odds of winning - When you enter the lottery during the Ticket Request period doesn't matter. People who enter early or enter at the last minute will have the same odds. Also, the odds shown to you at your time of entry do not matter. What does matter are the final odds after the Ticket Request period has closed. From the Confirmation Submission email: Please note: odds reflect the odds at the time of your request. These odds will change over time until the Ticket Request period has closed.
7) Editing selections - If you want to change your selections at any point, you have to again include ALL the shows you want in your new submission and prioritize again. If you exclude any shows in your subsequent submission, you'll be removed from the lottery for those shows. If you edit successfully, you'll get another Confirmation Submission email.
8) Confirmation of success/failure - During the draw for each show, confirmation emails will be sent out if you won tickets. After the draw, you will get a rejection email if you did not win. Didn't receive anything yet? See #3. Still can't find it? Have patience - don't assume you lost, the lottery draw period lasts a few days and based on #2, you'll know when that is. You might check your credit card for a charge as evidence you won. Contact support if you feel you need to.
9) Tickets are limited - Usually, Ticketmaster provides 8-10% of tickets to a band's fan club and while it seems like they were able to negotiate a much higher number for us this time, 10C still doesn't have the whole arena available to its members. If you see a floor map with shaded areas where 10C has tickets, they don't even have all the tickets in those sections.
10) This is not like most other band tours - How many other bands have such a large fan club, with so many long-time members who like to travel and see multiple shows? Try not to compare or set expectations.
Am I missing anything?
1) 10C Seniority - It is NOT a factor when it comes to your odds of getting tickets. It is only a factor in how good your reserved seats will be if you win them.
2) You need to read - Slowly and carefully. Follow instructions to the letter. Assume nothing. There are always good reasons for why you're told to do something whether you see the logic in it or not. One thing that tripped up many people - make sure your shows are ranked in the priority you intend. After you pick your shows, there is a separate screen dedicated to this. You can prioritize your shows by dragging and dropping them into the order you wish. If you don't prioritize, it seems to default to chronological order.
3) Missing an email? - Check your spam folder.
4) General Admission - It is NOT a good idea to put in for GA with anything less than Priority 1 if GA odds are less than 99%. The odds are extremely low, maybe non-existent, that you'll get those other shows after Priority 1.
5) Confirmation you entered the lottery - Once you successfully enter the lottery, you'll get a Confirmation Submission email that...confirms your selections. If you didn't get one, see #3. Still didn't get one? Maybe you didn't actually complete all the steps and should try again.
6) Time of entry and odds of winning - When you enter the lottery during the Ticket Request period doesn't matter. People who enter early or enter at the last minute will have the same odds. Also, the odds shown to you at your time of entry do not matter. What does matter are the final odds after the Ticket Request period has closed. From the Confirmation Submission email: Please note: odds reflect the odds at the time of your request. These odds will change over time until the Ticket Request period has closed.
7) Editing selections - If you want to change your selections at any point, you have to again include ALL the shows you want in your new submission and prioritize again. If you exclude any shows in your subsequent submission, you'll be removed from the lottery for those shows. If you edit successfully, you'll get another Confirmation Submission email.
8) Confirmation of success/failure - During the draw for each show, confirmation emails will be sent out if you won tickets. After the draw, you will get a rejection email if you did not win. Didn't receive anything yet? See #3. Still can't find it? Have patience - don't assume you lost, the lottery draw period lasts a few days and based on #2, you'll know when that is. You might check your credit card for a charge as evidence you won. Contact support if you feel you need to.
9) Tickets are limited - Usually, Ticketmaster provides 8-10% of tickets to a band's fan club and while it seems like they were able to negotiate a much higher number for us this time, 10C still doesn't have the whole arena available to its members. If you see a floor map with shaded areas where 10C has tickets, they don't even have all the tickets in those sections.
10) This is not like most other band tours - How many other bands have such a large fan club, with so many long-time members who like to travel and see multiple shows? Try not to compare or set expectations.
Am I missing anything?
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I love #2.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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Nice work BennyLaRue!Bridge Benefit 1994, San Francisco 1995, San Diego 1995 1 & 2, Missoula 1998, Los Angeles 2000, San Diego 2000, Eddie Vedder/Beck 2/26/2002, Santa Barbara 2003, Irvine 2003, San Diego 2003, Vancouver 2005, Gorge 2005, San Diego 2006, Los Angeles 2006 1 & 2, Santa Barbara 2006, Eddie Vedder 4/10/08, Eddie Vedder 4/12/08, Eddie Vedder 4/15/08, 7/12/2008, SF 8/28/09, LA 9/30/09, LA 10/1/09, LA 10/06/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09, Eddie Vedder 7/6/2011, Eddie Vedder 7/8/2011, PJ20 9/3/2011, PJ20 9/4/2011, Vancouver 9/25/2011, San Diego 11/21/13, LA 11/24/13, Ohana 9/25/21, Ohana 9/26/21, Ohana 10/1/21, EV 2/17/22, LA Forum 5/6/22, LA Forum 5/7/22, EV 10/1/22, EV 9/30/230
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This all sounds accurate to me. Thanks for putting it together.0
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Ohh that’s a great username Benny! Is that a reference to How to Succeed?DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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I’d add one detail I noticed and which I suspect affected a lot of people:
Make sure your shows are ranked in the priority you intend. When I chose my shows for this lottery, I selected NY first and then Baltimore. But when I advanced to the next screen, the one where you drag-and-drop the shows to rank them, Baltimore was listed first by default. Not sure if the default is to rank them in chronological order by show date, or in reverse order of selection, or what, but it would have been easy to click right through and end up with an entry that wasn’t ranked the way I intended.
Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240 -
Part of #2 but probably best to be explicit - this tripped a lot of people up. I'll add, thanks.tdawe said:I’d add one detail I noticed and which I suspect affected a lot of people:
Make sure your shows are ranked in the priority you intend. When I chose my shows for this lottery, I selected NY first and then Baltimore. But when I advanced to the next screen, the one where you drag-and-drop the shows to rank them, Baltimore was listed first by default. Not sure if the default is to rank them in chronological order by show date, or in reverse order of selection, or what, but it would have been easy to click right through and end up with an entry that wasn’t ranked the way I intended.0 -
In regards to #3, many have not received emails and it's not a junk mail thing. I am still waiting on my 2nd choice Oakland show email as are many others.0
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I'll point you to #8.iOnlyownMymind said:In regards to #3, many have not received emails and it's not a junk mail thing. I am still waiting on my 2nd choice Oakland show email as are many others.0 -
Same for me with both Oakland. Every time I call they say they are still pulling tickets. I was told this 20 minutes ago.iOnlyownMymind said:In regards to #3, many have not received emails and it's not a junk mail thing. I am still waiting on my 2nd choice Oakland show email as are many others.0 -
No, but I see why'd you'd say that!OceansJenny said:Ohh that’s a great username Benny! Is that a reference to How to Succeed?0 -
Also if on Gmail web browser (not mobile) the email for 2 shows comes in back to back with one “collapsed” if that makes sense. So it’s possible that people are just viewing the one email that is expanded by default.BennyLaRue said:
I'll point you to #8.iOnlyownMymind said:In regards to #3, many have not received emails and it's not a junk mail thing. I am still waiting on my 2nd choice Oakland show email as are many others.0 -
BennyLaRue said:I'm consolidating all the tips and stuff we've learned about the lottery process so far in one place. Some of the tips are the same as the old process. Not going to speculate about odds or what BA means or TM's mistakes or how winners are selected - lots of people think they know but until 10C explains, we can't be sure. You might have heard of an exception but they'd be rare, maybe hearsay, and if true, we might not know why they exist. Hope this helps.
1) 10C Seniority - It is NOT a factor when it comes to your odds of getting tickets. It is only a factor in how good your reserved seats will be if you win them.
2) You need to read - Slowly and carefully. Follow instructions to the letter. Assume nothing. There are always good reasons for why you're told to do something whether you see the logic in it or not. One thing that tripped up many people - make sure your shows are ranked in the priority you intend. After you pick your shows, there is a separate screen dedicated to this. You can prioritize your shows by dragging and dropping them into the order you wish. If you don't prioritize, it seems to default to chronological order.
3) Missing an email? - Check your spam folder.
4) General Admission - It is NOT a good idea to put in for GA with anything less than Priority 1 if GA odds are less than 99%. The odds are extremely low, maybe non-existent, that you'll get those other shows after Priority 1.
5) Confirmation you entered the lottery - Once you successfully enter the lottery, you'll get a Confirmation Submission email that...confirms your selections. If you didn't get one, see #3. Still didn't get one? Maybe you didn't actually complete all the steps and should try again.
6) Time of entry and odds of winning - When you enter the lottery during the Ticket Request period doesn't matter. People who enter early or enter at the last minute will have the same odds. Also, the odds shown to you at your time of entry do not matter. What does matter are the final odds after the Ticket Request period has closed. From the Confirmation Submission email: Please note: odds reflect the odds at the time of your request. These odds will change over time until the Ticket Request period has closed.
7) Editing selections - If you want to change your selections at any point, you have to again include ALL the shows you want in your new submission and prioritize again. If you exclude any shows in your subsequent submission, you'll be removed from the lottery for those shows. If you edit successfully, you'll get another Confirmation Submission email.
8) Confirmation of success/failure - During the draw for each show, confirmation emails will be sent out if you won tickets. After the draw, you will get a rejection email if you did not win. Didn't receive anything yet? See #3. Still can't find it? Have patience - don't assume you lost, the lottery draw period lasts a few days and based on #2, you'll know when that is. Contact support if you feel you need to.
9) Tickets are limited - Usually, Ticketmaster provides 8-10% of tickets to a band's fan club and while it seems like they were able to negotiate a much higher number for us this time, 10C still doesn't have the whole arena available to its members. If you see a floor map with shaded areas where 10C has tickets, they don't even have all the tickets in those sections.
10) This is not like most other band tours - How many other bands have such a large fan club, with so many long-time members who like to travel and see multiple shows? Try not to compare or set expectations.
Am I missing anything?
I hope they don't do this crap for the 2nd leg..... The old way is so much better....
9/1-9/2/2000 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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Can we get this pinned to the top of the forum?Pittsburgh 2013
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 20160 -
It's the first time they've tried this - I expect they'll tweak and make it better, communicate better. But if this gets us single tickets, F2F and cuts down on scalping, it's all worth it. 10C can't do that stuff on their own, not when fan club fees haven't gone up the entire time the club has existed.PJlive said:I hope they don't do this crap for the 2nd leg..... The old way is so much better....0 -
#7 tripped up a lot of people.
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Agreed. Keep it, communicate a bit better. And maybe just maybe find a way to secure even more tickets if possible, not that I’m complaining about the increase from this first go-round.BennyLaRue said:
It's the first time they've tried this - I expect they'll tweak and make it better, communicate better. But if this gets us single tickets, F2F and cuts down on scalping, it's all worth it. 10C can't do that stuff on their own, not when fan club fees haven't gone up the entire time the club has existed.PJlive said:I hope they don't do this crap for the 2nd leg..... The old way is so much better....0 -
What about make sure your Ten Club name matches your Ticketmaster account name exactly? Not sure if this is true but I saw it being posted a lot.Oh, if I knew where it was I would take you there...
Austin, Texas 09-16-1995
Columbia, Maryland 09-04-2000
San Antonio, Texas 04-05-2003
Santa Barbara, California 07-13-2006
Universal City, California 10-01-2009
Austin, Texas 10-04-2009
Dallas, Texas 11-15-2013
Mexico City, Mexico 11-28-2015
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 04-08-2016
Miami, Florida 04-09-2016
Chicago, Illinois I 08-20-2016
Chicago, Illinois II 08-22-2016
Seattle, Washington I 08-08-2018
Seattle, Washington II 08-10-2018
Boston, Massachusets I 09-02-2018
Austin, Texas 09-18-20230 -
There were lots of cases where people got tickets without the two names matching up. Still, it was part of the instructions so these people are lucky it didn't end up being consequential.robis726 said:What about make sure your Ten Club name matches your Ticketmaster account name exactly? Not sure if this is true but I saw it being posted a lot.0 -
BennyLaRue you win. #2 is really all it takes. Great stuff here. 👏👏👏0
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Tripped me up. 🤷♂️JimmyV said:#7 tripped up a lot of people.1996: Toronto
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X20
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