Best Available

givnfly
givnfly Posts: 52
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Seeing how this is playing out I am regretting picking best available since I would've been perfectly fine with seats.  If you pick BA the first choice is GA, if you lose that then automatically your 2nd choice would be Seats for that show.  So if someone just did seats as their first choice, they would get the tix before you.  I think that might be what is happening to some people losing tix when they picked BA for the shows that are supposedly 99%.  That is the only thing that makes sense to me.  
I only went for NYC.  Tomorrow is gonna be a blast haha.
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  • rvapete
    rvapete Posts: 488
    To me that's how it should be. Best Available shouldn't be 1 and 1A
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I'm not sure. I picked BA for Denver, got Denver, but I have no idea yet if I'm in GA or if I'm in a seat. I won't know that for another 10 days. That's the part that doesn't make sense to me at all. Why is it taking 10 more days to let the BA people know if they're in GA or in a seat. Has anybody who picked GA-only know they got a ticket? Or do we just know which GA-only people got rejected?
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    what dreams said:
    I'm not sure. I picked BA for Denver, got Denver, but I have no idea yet if I'm in GA or if I'm in a seat. I won't know that for another 10 days. That's the part that doesn't make sense to me at all. Why is it taking 10 more days to let the BA people know if they're in GA or in a seat. Has anybody who picked GA-only know they got a ticket? Or do we just know which GA-only people got rejected?
    My wife got GA only for Toronto
  • goingonsix
    goingonsix Posts: 68
    BA definitely a shiny new object. Chose for NYC and STL. We'll see...
  • PushinPaint
    PushinPaint Posts: 434
    Best available should be whatever is best available.. if GA is open, you get GA, if not, you get reserved. It was read as an either/or. 
  • MickeyMouse
    MickeyMouse Posts: 1,057
    PushinPaint said:
    Best available should be whatever is best available.. if GA is open, you get GA, if not, you get reserved. It was read as an either/or. 
    Yea I mean it’s literally the definition of the phrase. 
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  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    Exactly!  It appears that all the Reserved as #1 choice are getting picked for tickets ahead of all the Best Available ones.  It appears to be a fucked up glitch on Ticketmaster's end.
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  • radial21
    radial21 Posts: 232
    primussucks said:
    Exactly!  It appears that all the Reserved as #1 choice are getting picked for tickets ahead of all the Best Available ones.  It appears to be a fucked up glitch on Ticketmaster's end.
    This is false though, people are winning on best available with choices 4,5, and 6.  I’d guess it’s much more likely to be user error (credit card issues, account or email matching issues, etc) than a Ticketmaster glitch.  
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    radial21 said:
    primussucks said:
    Exactly!  It appears that all the Reserved as #1 choice are getting picked for tickets ahead of all the Best Available ones.  It appears to be a fucked up glitch on Ticketmaster's end.
    This is false though, people are winning on best available with choices 4,5, and 6.  I’d guess it’s much more likely to be user error (credit card issues, account or email matching issues, etc) than a Ticketmaster glitch.  
    Some may be use error. In my case I won oak 2 but oak 1 is still outstanding... maybe more drawings tomorrow? My Oakland 1 was priority 3 BA... seems to be some glitches, kinks, or undisclosed methodologies to the draw
  • jefft
    jefft Posts: 678
    radial21 said:
    primussucks said:
    Exactly!  It appears that all the Reserved as #1 choice are getting picked for tickets ahead of all the Best Available ones.  It appears to be a fucked up glitch on Ticketmaster's end.
    This is false though, people are winning on best available with choices 4,5, and 6.  I’d guess it’s much more likely to be user error (credit card issues, account or email matching issues, etc) than a Ticketmaster glitch.  
    I got 2 shows in Canada yesterday, I got one show so far in the states.

    Applied for la 1 and 2 only got 1 so far.  Looks like 2 might be out.
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 835
    Even that still wouldnt make sense.  99% means practically everyone gets tickets, not just first choicers
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,294
    Should there be a Best Available option ?
  • agentpinckney
    agentpinckney Lakemont, NY Posts: 267
    I put in for BA at both Ottawa and Hamilton ... and got both. But I also only put in for 1 ticket at each. Does anyone think requesting only one ticket gives you better odds of winning?
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  • MickeyMouse
    MickeyMouse Posts: 1,057
    agentpinckney said:
    I put in for BA at both Ottawa and Hamilton ... and got both. But I also only put in for 1 ticket at each. Does anyone think requesting only one ticket gives you better odds of winning?
    No. They select people randomly regardless of how many tickets are requested. 
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    For Ticketmaster regular sales BA works better than going for GA or reserved separately. I think it will be the same for a presale too.  
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  • radial21
    radial21 Posts: 232
    cutz said:
    Should there be a Best Available option ?
    I think this is a good question.  I chose Best available because I wanted to maximize my chance to get a ticket of any kind (which I assumed that choice would do).  It does seem like this option is the one that has led to the most confusion and questionable results though....
  • agentpinckney
    agentpinckney Lakemont, NY Posts: 267
    edited January 2020
    radial21 said:
    cutz said:
    Should there be a Best Available option ?
    I think this is a good question.  I chose Best available because I wanted to maximize my chance to get a ticket of any kind (which I assumed that choice would do).  It does seem like this option is the one that has led to the most confusion and questionable results though....
    I chose BA for the exact same reason. It'll be interesting to see if any BA winners get GA. We'll find out in 10 days!!!
    Post edited by agentpinckney on
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    May 10, 2016 ... Air Canada Centre, Toronto-Ontario (Canada)
    May 12, 2016 ... Air Canada Centre, Toronto-Ontario (Canada)
    August 5, 2016 ... Fenway Park, Boston-Mass. (USA)
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,116
    radial21 said:
    primussucks said:
    Exactly!  It appears that all the Reserved as #1 choice are getting picked for tickets ahead of all the Best Available ones.  It appears to be a fucked up glitch on Ticketmaster's end.
    This is false though, people are winning on best available with choices 4,5, and 6.  I’d guess it’s much more likely to be user error (credit card issues, account or email matching issues, etc) than a Ticketmaster glitch.  


    if OP is correct, and it’s a great point, us on the east coast are screwed...again, because picks 4,5 and 6 might as well be in Cinderella’s castle for NY and Balt 

    most of us believed going in, due to so few shows in the east, only pick one matters.

    now it seems possible that the TM algorithm is interpreting BA as two picks. So basically a ton of us put in for GA only because reserved is treated as a second round pick.

    For Baltimore, if the odds for RES are 65% and many do not put Balt as first pick, one could estimate those first round odds to be closer to 85%

    now it feels like it’s closer to 10%. That would be a fairly big misrepresentation of telling fans how to apply for tickets.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,116
    edited January 2020
    AmishGuy91 said:
    Even that still wouldnt make sense.  99% means practically everyone gets tickets, not just first choicers

    If OP is correct, it makes a ton of sense because the TM system could be misinterpreting BA for its odds calculations well as whether BA is 1 priority or 2 separate priorities. 

    They may be putting BA applicants into the GA odds and vastly overestimating RES odds. Many BA in Oak were denied and some in CO and they were both 99%
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,116
    rvapete said:
    To me that's how it should be. Best Available shouldn't be 1 and 1A

    but this process has rules that were communicated before we applied. And those rules clearly state the priority is assigned on a PER SHOW basis. So 1 and 1a is exactly the way it should be

    ” Step 6. If you selected 2 or more shows, you can prioritize your shows by dragging and dropping them into the order you wish.”

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