Anti-LGBTQ Legislation Florida and Tennessee

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    dankind said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family
    Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

    I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   
    Like you, I won't step foot in, nor spend a cent in, Florida, Tejas and now Tennessee. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    As a consequence of canceling that Raleigh show, people will inevitably scrutinize each of these situations. Would they cancel the Nashville show? If not, why not? Unless I'm missing something, that seems to be a civil rights nightmare. Religious group or not, they're accepting public funding and are allowed to discriminate?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    dankind said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family
    Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

    I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   
    Ah I gotcha.  If you want $0 in taxes paid I guess it makes sense.  I was thinkng you'd stay with family and they'd pick you up...so only food. 

    For me, I wouldn't make that choice.  If my family was important to me I would still visit and then limit things.  But that's just me and you do you.  I agree with your stance on arming teachers and LGBT (I can never keep up with the letters... wish there was a better term for discriminated upon based on your sexual identify or something like that)
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  • Hi!
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    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

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  • dankind
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    Hi! said:
    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 
    Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.
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  • Hi!
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    edited January 2020
    dankind said:
    Hi! said:
    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 
    Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.
    Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Hi! said:
    dankind said:
    Hi! said:
    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 
    Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.
    Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.
    They are driven by fear, hate, and ignorance. 

    For some reason in republican controlled districts and legislatures there is an extremely high level of fear, hate, and ignorance.
    Not sure why so many voters and politicians live this way.
    Sad
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    dankind said:
    Hi! said:
    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 
    Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.
    For something like this, I think Gorsuch and Roberts would be more in play than you're allowing 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Hi! said:
    dankind said:
    Hi! said:
    Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 
    Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.
    Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.
    Nope.  The courts are a GOP machine now.  
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Corporate push back...

    Tennessee Gov. Lee to sign anti-LGBTQ adoption bill despite Amazon, Nike opposition. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/tennessee-nears-anti-lgbtq-bill-despite-amazon-nike-opposition.html
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    This will piss off a lot of people in Florida,  Tennessee,  and elsewhere.....


  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    Bentleyspop said:
    This will piss off a lot of people in Florida,  Tennessee,  and elsewhere.....


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bentleyspop said:
    This will piss off a lot of people in Florida,  Tennessee,  and elsewhere.....


    Niners should refuse to play the super bowl in Florida, not show up and forfeit the game. Oh but get bent over players taking a knee.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    This will piss off a lot of people in Florida,  Tennessee,  and elsewhere.....


    Niners should refuse to play the super bowl in Florida, not show up and forfeit the game. Oh but get bent over players taking a knee.
    I think her being there and being out and proud on such a big stage is a big middle finger to all the republican christian conservatives who think she is wrong for being who she is and who she loves.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Bentleyspop said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    This will piss off a lot of people in Florida,  Tennessee,  and elsewhere.....


    Niners should refuse to play the super bowl in Florida, not show up and forfeit the game. Oh but get bent over players taking a knee.
    I think her being there and being out and proud on such a big stage is a big middle finger to all the republican christian conservatives who think she is wrong for being who she is and who she loves.
    Couldn’t agree more but my guess they don’t know she exists. However, those fuckers in the legislature know the SB and the money it brings in exists and if the NFL had any moral character, they would drop Florida from the list of SB sites. And all those cruise lines should refuse to arrive/depart from Florida as well. Economics is really all they get. In 2020 no less. Sheesh.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Shocking to see more anti-LGBTQ fear, hate, and ignorance coming from tennessee and the white house....

    Pence attends homophobic sermon streamed on White House YouTube channel. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/pence-attends-homophobic-sermon-streamed-white-house-youtube-channel-n1119621
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,361
    Bentleyspop said:
    Shocking to see more anti-LGBTQ fear, hate, and ignorance coming from tennessee and the white house....

    Pence attends homophobic sermon streamed on White House YouTube channel. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/pence-attends-homophobic-sermon-streamed-white-house-youtube-channel-n1119621
    Hating the LGBTQ demographic is right up Pence's fucked up alley. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Looks like more than just Tennessee and florida have a problem with republcans using their fear, hate, and ignorance to propose anti-LGBTQ legislation .....

    Dozens of anti-LGBTQ state bills already proposed in 2020, advocates warn. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dozens-anti-lgbtq-state-bills-already-proposed-2020-advocates-warn-n1121256
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Religious freedom can be a dangerous thing.  If you were a religious person I can see why this would mean something to you but in the end of the day if you truly cared about the well being of an orphaned child then you would want him or her to be happy, healthy and loved and this bill ultimately denies a them of that.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I was near the state line earlier today, and I had three hours to kill while my daughter was doing choir practice. I searched for record stores nearby, the closest one was in New Hampshire, but I said fuck it and drove the extra miles to stay in Massachusetts.

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