Anti-LGBTQ Legislation Florida and Tennessee

Bentleyspop

I saw today that both Florida and Tennessee have pending Anti-LGBTQ legislation.
I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of.
     

Tennessee governor says he will sign anti-LGBT adoption bill

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/

 Florida Republicans submit 4 anti-gay bills on last day to file. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/florida-republicans-file-4-anti-gay-bills-last-day-session-n1116256 

josevolution

Bentleyspop said:

I saw today that both Florida and Tennessee have pending Anti-LGBTQ legislation.
I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of.
     

Tennessee governor says he will sign anti-LGBT adoption bill

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/

 Florida Republicans submit 4 anti-gay bills on last day to file. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/florida-republicans-file-4-anti-gay-bills-last-day-session-n1116256 

Unreal how pathetic Republicans are ..

Halifax2TheMax

Bentleyspop said:

I saw today that both Florida and Tennessee have pending Anti-LGBTQ legislation.
I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of.
     

Tennessee governor says he will sign anti-LGBT adoption bill

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/

 Florida Republicans submit 4 anti-gay bills on last day to file. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/florida-republicans-file-4-anti-gay-bills-last-day-session-n1116256 

Turning everyone gay, leading to the downfall of western civilization. I'm sure lindamarie or ryme could explain it to you.

brianlux

Bentleyspop said:

I saw today that both Florida and Tennessee have pending Anti-LGBTQ legislation.
I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of.
     

Tennessee governor says he will sign anti-LGBT adoption bill

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/

 Florida Republicans submit 4 anti-gay bills on last day to file. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/florida-republicans-file-4-anti-gay-bills-last-day-session-n1116256 

"I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of."

They are probably afraid they themselves are gay.  To which I say, Come out of the closet.  It is OK to be gay!

Bentleyspop

brianlux said:

Bentleyspop said:

I saw today that both Florida and Tennessee have pending Anti-LGBTQ legislation.
I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of.
     

Tennessee governor says he will sign anti-LGBT adoption bill

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/14/tennessee-gay-adoption-senate-passes-bill-allowing-agencies-discriminate/4465719002/

 Florida Republicans submit 4 anti-gay bills on last day to file. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/florida-republicans-file-4-anti-gay-bills-last-day-session-n1116256 

"I don't understand what these republican  politicians are so afraid of."

They are probably afraid they themselves are gay.  To which I say, Come out of the closet.  It is OK to be gay!

Its okaaaaaay......
  https://youtu.be/6-6xV0uAVpk

darwinstheory

Welp, I'm glad I opted for STL over Nashville. 

cincybearcat

I’m so tired of the party of small government using government to keep people from human rights.

So stupid

Jason7192

darwinstheory said:

Welp, I'm glad I opted for STL over Nashville. 

No shit. I plan on going to both shows & it's dumb shit like this that creates a Raleigh situation all over again. 

Get it together, Tennessee.

1ThoughtKnown

darwinstheory said:

Welp, I'm glad I opted for STL over Nashville. 

This was my first thought... Nashville cancelled. 

It’s amazing how powerful the religious right is in the states...  just couldn’t fathom living in that environment. 

gimmesometruth27

good thing i decided to go west instead of to nashville.

cincybearcat

sure hope I get tickets to Nashville...and I really hope they play still.  It’s the next concert set to go with my daughter. Ironically, raleigh was going to be our first show together. 

dankind

https://youtu.be/nXNY78lpPyw

^^^They kind of hit the nail on the head with this one. Although it didn't appear on an album until 1992, Amy Ray wrote it in 1984 while witnessing and dealing with the racism, sexism and homophobia that permeated the place. It's 35 years later, and the song is still as relevant as ever.

And Florida continues to reassure me that I'll never return home to visit my family again. And my favorite member of my family, my grandmother, my daughter's namesake, is probably going to die soon. It makes me sad. 

cincybearcat

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

OnWis97

I miss the days when “fiscally conservative and socially liberal” was en vogue.  Social conservatism is back!  Nd the courts are set up to protect it forever.

dankind

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

1ThoughtKnown

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

I get this line of thinking. Admire your conviction. 

I vowed not to visit the US as long as the current administration was in power. My PJ fandom trumps all conviction apparently.

lindamarie73

1ThoughtKnown said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

I get this line of thinking. Admire your conviction. 

I vowed not to visit the US as long as the current administration was in power. My PJ fandom trumps all conviction apparently.

Talk is cheap.  Just look at all those “influential” Hollywood types who vowed to leave the greatest country in the world if Donald Trump got elected.  Boy was that fun back then hearing them all back peddle.....it will be interesting to see which rotten brain doubles down in coming months....
Hope you get the shows you put in for, cause Myself and my traveling posse can’t wait to spread the love all over Canada ahe....

1ThoughtKnown

lindamarie73 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

I get this line of thinking. Admire your conviction. 

I vowed not to visit the US as long as the current administration was in power. My PJ fandom trumps all conviction apparently.

Talk is cheap.  Just look at all those “influential” Hollywood types who vowed to leave the greatest country in the world if Donald Trump got elected.  Boy was that fun back then hearing them all back peddle.....it will be interesting to see which rotten brain doubles down in coming months....
Hope you get the shows you put in for, cause Myself and my traveling posse can’t wait to spread the love all over Canada ahe....

You lost me 

brianlux

lindamarie73 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

I get this line of thinking. Admire your conviction. 

I vowed not to visit the US as long as the current administration was in power. My PJ fandom trumps all conviction apparently.

Talk is cheap.  Just look at all those “influential” Hollywood types who vowed to leave the greatest country in the world if Donald Trump got elected.  Boy was that fun back then hearing them all back peddle.....it will be interesting to see which rotten brain doubles down in coming months....
Hope you get the shows you put in for, cause Myself and my traveling posse can’t wait to spread the love all over Canada ahe....

I paid a fair amount to money to sit and listen to Henry Rollins talk.  But it was worth every cent and what he said made sense.

jeffbr

Better hope Ed doesn't pick up any calls from Bruce about Tennessee. Ed will drop that show on a moments notice with just one call from The Boss.

gimmesometruth27

jeffbr said:

Better hope Ed doesn't pick up any calls from Bruce about Tennessee. Ed will drop that show on a moments notice with just one call from The Boss.

man, that may actually be why they call him the boss!!

Halifax2TheMax

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

Like you, I won't step foot in, nor spend a cent in, Florida, Tejas and now Tennessee. 

pjl44

As a consequence of canceling that Raleigh show, people will inevitably scrutinize each of these situations. Would they cancel the Nashville show? If not, why not? Unless I'm missing something, that seems to be a civil rights nightmare. Religious group or not, they're accepting public funding and are allowed to discriminate?

cincybearcat

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

I guess I don't understand how or why a state would keep you from visiting family

Because once I get there, I would need to rent a car. At some point, I'd need to fill up the tank in that rental. Oh yeah, and I'd likely get hungry and have to eat something. I'll also need a place to sleep. All of those things are taxed, which is revenue for a state legislature that supports arming educators and discriminating against LGBTQ+ citizens. That's something I cannot in good conscience do. In the grand scheme of things, this legislation affects ~20 million people; my friends and family in Florida number maybe 40 people. The needs of the many ...

I've already missed one funeral. Donated to the deceased's charity of choice, though, in lieu of attendance.   

Ah I gotcha.  If you want $0 in taxes paid I guess it makes sense.  I was thinkng you'd stay with family and they'd pick you up...so only food. 

For me, I wouldn't make that choice.  If my family was important to me I would still visit and then limit things.  But that's just me and you do you.  I agree with your stance on arming teachers and LGBT (I can never keep up with the letters... wish there was a better term for discriminated upon based on your sexual identify or something like that)

Hi!

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

dankind

Hi! said:

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.

Hi!

dankind said:

Hi! said:

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.

Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.

Bentleyspop

Hi! said:

dankind said:

Hi! said:

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.

Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.

They are driven by fear, hate, and ignorance. 

For some reason in republican controlled districts and legislatures there is an extremely high level of fear, hate, and ignorance.
Not sure why so many voters and politicians live this way.
Sad

pjl44

dankind said:

Hi! said:

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.

For something like this, I think Gorsuch and Roberts would be more in play than you're allowing 

OnWis97

Hi! said:

dankind said:

Hi! said:

Just curious, but the Supreme Court has ruled on similar cases like this before. I’m guessing this gets challenged in court and struck down eventually, no? 

Doubt it. The federal courts (US Supreme included) are now stacked to support such abhorrent legislation.

Hmm, seems they would consider precedent and it’s not like the Supreme Court was stacked with liberals when coming to those earlier decisions. Pretty fucking sad these people don’t have better things to do with their time. So frustrating, all the problems in the world and this is the first bill that they send out in the new year. Fucking pigs.

Nope.  The courts are a GOP machine now.  

Bentleyspop

Corporate push back...

Tennessee Gov. Lee to sign anti-LGBTQ adoption bill despite Amazon, Nike opposition. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/tennessee-nears-anti-lgbtq-bill-despite-amazon-nike-opposition.html