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    faithful2youfaithful2you Madison, WI Posts: 778
    We have a small 2000 seat venue that just opened where I live and it has brought in some decent acts.....a lot of them are what I would consider being a "something to do" concert.   Example; Blues Traveler was just there and I thought it's be a decent thing to do on a Saturday night.....$140 a ticket....no thanks.    Wilco is there next March.....reserved seats....$299.    Bands don't make money selling albums anymore......it's got to come from somewhere.      
    Holy smokes...$299 a seat for Wilco....I am seeing them in March as well at the 1600 seat Luther Burbank Center in NoCal highest price ticket was $99 in the front couple of rows...otherwise they were $79 a seat.  Are you certain those aren't tix being sold on the secondary market?  Or maybe the exchange rate in WI is out of whack right now....:)
    @faithful2you--
    I just checked at the Sylvee in WI and gen adm tix are (were?) $52.50.  They have "official platinum"  tickets for $299.  Not to get into this too much but those TM "official platinum" tickets are total and complete BS.  I tried to get Jeff Tweedy tickets for the Fillmore in SF at the time they went on sale--not a second late--and could only get "official platinum' tickets...no $70 tickets were available...only the $150 official platinum?  Such crap....the funny thing is that both your show and the Fillmore show are/were GA.  WTF is the "official platinum" aspect of the ticket except that you get to pay at least double (or, in your case 5X's as much).  The expensive tickets in WI do give you a couple of actual seats in the balcony....
    GA is $52,   Reserved are $299.  I clicked on Official Platinum for a definition and it said "these are not part of the VIP Package and are only tickets to the show".  I've never heard of the platinum tickets before but that is all that is offered for the reserved balcony seats......Which I never understood why the reserved seats in the Sylvee are always more expensive than GA.     We saw Ben Harper there in September and I think we paid maybe $60 a ticket.    

    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,159
    It's hard to compare because ticket prices have been skyrocketing like mad the past few years.  Last year to see the Stones in Seattle it was $395USD for close sections lower bowl or middle area of seated floor.  The pit and first few rows of seats were $495usd.  This assumes you could find some that weren't being sold as VIP or platinum tickets (Which then cost thousands).

    In 2016 GNR tickets (For good tickets, PIT/first half of floor/closer side sections) were $250usd.

    We skipped metallica because it was over $200 for good tickets on their last tour (and it was a stadium opposed to an arena).  

    PJ tickets are definitely on the rise, but their peers are rising even more.     If you're going to big shows outside of PJ you're noticing this everywhere.  If you only go to PJ shows than I can see how you would be angry at the band.
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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 820
    Think I paid 90ish for pit in Milan and 70 odd for seats in Padova plus 130 in Boston. They're defo getting nuts and I reckon someone out there is capitalising on all this FOMO due to them not getting any younger. Having said that their light show isn't anywhere near as extravagant so it's probably their reputation as an incredible live band that plays 30 odd songs a night that puts them in the upper echelons of live bands-hence the premium prices. Still, sheesh.

    Got tickets to both Auckland gigs for Tool and they're NZ$200 each. Same age I guess-but Tool's light show is one of the best around so not wincing as much.
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,754
    JT167846 said:
    Think I paid 90ish for pit in Milan and 70 odd for seats in Padova plus 130 in Boston. They're defo getting nuts and I reckon someone out there is capitalising on all this FOMO due to them not getting any younger. Having said that their light show isn't anywhere near as extravagant so it's probably their reputation as an incredible live band that plays 30 odd songs a night that puts them in the upper echelons of live bands-hence the premium prices. Still, sheesh.

    Got tickets to both Auckland gigs for Tool and they're NZ$200 each. Same age I guess-but Tool's light show is one of the best around so not wincing as much.


    You think these are premium prices? I get that you think they are a lot and they are definitely on the rise but have you seen what other bands are charging to be up close?
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    Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,751
    Saw Beck play for an hour and a half at that price, as well as Mumford. Jane’s Addiction played at that price for a 68 minute show in Tempe, AZ. Yeah, 3.5 hours for that amount, I’m in 
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    stawamusstawamus Vancouver, Canada Posts: 23
    We have a small 2000 seat venue that just opened where I live and it has brought in some decent acts.....a lot of them are what I would consider being a "something to do" concert.   Example; Blues Traveler was just there and I thought it's be a decent thing to do on a Saturday night.....$140 a ticket....no thanks.    Wilco is there next March.....reserved seats....$299.    Bands don't make money selling albums anymore......it's got to come from somewhere.      
    Wilco at the Sylvee is $52.50
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    Hate to say it, but I think years of secondary market data opened eyes to the fact that tickets for big shows have been underpriced relative to demand for a long time 
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    I don't understand how people think these ticket prices are high. Rolling stones tickets at giants stadium were close to $300 for back of the lower bowl. Tool was $180 for back of the lower bowl. Pearl Jam consistently charges less or equal to their peers. Tickets are $115 for amsterdam this year. Last year italy was around $120 a ticket. 

    Also if you were hoping for $80 tickets:

    1. its not 2013. The world has changed a lot in 7 years.
    2. a difference of $30 or $40 dollars shouldn't make a difference. It means you couldn't afford it to begin with and you need to re-evaluate your economic priorities. 

    The ticket prices are too high threads are so tired.

    ALL CONCERT TICKET PRICES ARE HIGH NOW.  BEING A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN IS A JOB AND SHOULD BE PAID ACCORDINGLY.

    I remember when i saw pj for a handful of peanuts and 3 paper clips.  Ahhhhh the good old days. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    Pearl Jam tickets are sold way below market value. To prove this theory, instead of a private 10c sale, let's have every ticket sold to the public at an electronic silent auction and find out what the average ticket price would be  
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    pjl44 said:
    Hate to say it, but I think years of secondary market data opened eyes to the fact that tickets for big shows have been underpriced relative to demand for a long time 
    Seeing a hall of fame band that tours not too often and tickets are nearly impossible to get without 10c? These prices seem like a bargain. 
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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 820
    PJNB said:
    JT167846 said:
    Think I paid 90ish for pit in Milan and 70 odd for seats in Padova plus 130 in Boston. They're defo getting nuts and I reckon someone out there is capitalising on all this FOMO due to them not getting any younger. Having said that their light show isn't anywhere near as extravagant so it's probably their reputation as an incredible live band that plays 30 odd songs a night that puts them in the upper echelons of live bands-hence the premium prices. Still, sheesh.

    Got tickets to both Auckland gigs for Tool and they're NZ$200 each. Same age I guess-but Tool's light show is one of the best around so not wincing as much.


    You think these are premium prices? I get that you think they are a lot and they are definitely on the rise but have you seen what other bands are charging to be up close?
    Nope. What I was implying by premium is the price of the tickets compared to quality of seat/spot. I didn't get 10C tickets for the Italian gigs as my fianceé and I were planning on leaving Europe before then but her visa took longer than expected. Fenway was. They are getting very expensive very quickly which was my point. I reckon should Pearl Jam tour down under next the prices would be higher than Tool-I'd put money on $250 for 10C. As opposed to $56 for Wellington 98 and $125AUD for Brisbane 09. Just think of the cost of lugging the gear down under too-probably the main reason we get 2/3 of fuck all gigs here.

    Top Elton John seats are around 1500NZD. I'm aware.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    We have a small 2000 seat venue that just opened where I live and it has brought in some decent acts.....a lot of them are what I would consider being a "something to do" concert.   Example; Blues Traveler was just there and I thought it's be a decent thing to do on a Saturday night.....$140 a ticket....no thanks.    Wilco is there next March.....reserved seats....$299.    Bands don't make money selling albums anymore......it's got to come from somewhere.      
    $140 for Blues Traveler??  They were just in Richmond, 1500 person venue, all GA and it was $45 if I recall.  
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    RideRickRideRick Hoorn Posts: 703
    Not only is the price high also it is higher for a 10C member without any more advantage then only presale. 
    If I try my luck at normal selling it is $25 dollar cheaper. 
    That’s 5 big beers in the venue. 
    And at Ziggodome the TenClub members are fucked, last 2 shows the lineup was over 8000 people!!!
    Lots of the members missed the start of the show in the venue or where way back. 

    I’m willing to pay more but not if it doesn’t get any more then only presale. 

    You can discuss about what is normal but nowadays it is for the rich and healthy people. 

    Also think about it, how many will fly over here for lots of money and spending big ticket prices. 
    Unreal if you ask me. 
    Maybe I’m poor compared to 90% who think these prices are rightfully. 

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    The conclusion if a price is low or high should be made in accordance to the minimum wage of a country. If the country's minimum wage is 1700euros spending 120 for a ticket is not a big deal. When the minimum wage is 400e, like in Hungary for example, 120 is way too much.

    I don't think it is ok for us to accept that many people among us cannot afford to go to a concert.

    I don't care what the Stones, GNR or others do, because they are completely different cases. One of the reasons I adore Pearl Jam, apart from their music, is that they are not rock stars, but real people with deep social concerns. So I expect much more from them.

    The fact that they play for 3hrs is their choice as a band.
    Our right as fans is to afford to go to their concerts and enjoy our favourite music. All of us

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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    Good Point.
    Kiss is known to be a bunch of money hungry greedy old bastards. They also have a stage show that looks like it costs millions
    PJ is pretty much the opposite.
    Kiss charges about 80 euros in Hungary for the most expensive tickets. Pearl Jam 120.
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    mrk2 said:
    Good Point.
    Kiss is known to be a bunch of money hungry greedy old bastards. They also have a stage show that looks like it costs millions
    PJ is pretty much the opposite.
    Kiss charges about 80 euros in Hungary for the most expensive tickets. Pearl Jam 120.
    KISS charges WAAAAAAAAY more in the US though than in Europe. I got golden circle tix here in Sweden for 110 euros or something. It would not be that cheap in the US.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    They are aware of what the target audience is willing to pay. Make the rich pay more, but keep it more affordable for poorer countries
    PJ charges the same from Boston and Seattle to Poland and Hungary.
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    mrk2 said:
    They are aware of what the target audience is willing to pay. Make the rich pay more, but keep it more affordable for poorer countries
    PJ charges the same from Boston and Seattle to Poland and Hungary.
    I hadn't considered that but that's a good idea
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    ...pretty cool that KISS plays the day after PJ in hungary.. hmm
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    Arena shows on up have become extremely expensive. If Pearl Jam plays another proper NA tour, my days of 6-10 shows are unfortunately over. But the good news is that there are tons of great bands playing in clubs and theaters around you. Broaden your horizons and you'll find your dollar goes much further. That's 98% of my ticket purchases now. If you only want to see PJ, Foo Fighters, KISS, Tool, Neil Young, etc., yeah you're gonna pay an arm and a leg.
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    RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    RideRick said:
    Not only is the price high also it is higher for a 10C member without any more advantage then only presale. 
    If I try my luck at normal selling it is $25 dollar cheaper. 
    That’s 5 big beers in the venue. 
    And at Ziggodome the TenClub members are fucked, last 2 shows the lineup was over 8000 people!!!
    Lots of the members missed the start of the show in the venue or where way back. 

    I’m willing to pay more but not if it doesn’t get any more then only presale. 

    You can discuss about what is normal but nowadays it is for the rich and healthy people. 

    Also think about it, how many will fly over here for lots of money and spending big ticket prices. 
    Unreal if you ask me. 
    Maybe I’m poor compared to 90% who think these prices are rightfully. 

    I put in for the Zurich and Imola draws, but after thinking about it, that's $800 Cdn and I think that's too much for me.
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    faithful2youfaithful2you Madison, WI Posts: 778
    stawamus said:
    We have a small 2000 seat venue that just opened where I live and it has brought in some decent acts.....a lot of them are what I would consider being a "something to do" concert.   Example; Blues Traveler was just there and I thought it's be a decent thing to do on a Saturday night.....$140 a ticket....no thanks.    Wilco is there next March.....reserved seats....$299.    Bands don't make money selling albums anymore......it's got to come from somewhere.      
    Wilco at the Sylvee is $52.50
    Yes, for GA.   All reserved seats are $299   
    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
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    MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 627
    edited December 2019
    Those who are complaining about the prices are either two things.

    broke or cheap. 

    If your broke, ok I get it but this isn’t 1992 anymore.

    if you aren’t broke then your cheap.

    if you can’t afford it then that’s totally a different thing.

    If you can. Then this is a bargain and some of you guys don’t even know it. 
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    Go tell that to the Polish fans complaining on the FB posts by Livenation.
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    FR181798FR181798 Posts: 2,164
    Im sorry but none of these prices are reasonable. I dont really care if the Stones etc charge more. Those prices are crazy too. 
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    Just saw the ticket prices. Obscene. Lol.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    eddieceddiec Posts: 3,837
    Someone mentioned earlier that prices of tickets should reflect the wages of the country the band is playing in. I think there is a lot of validity in this statement and I wish bands would adhere to it. However, it also has some major drawbacks. While we desire our favorite artists to be altruistic people, at the end of the day it's a business. And for most artists, a very fleeting business. Bands would most likely stop playing in certain countries if they were only making a third of the money. Bands would completely ignore all of Asia and large parts of central and Eastern Europe. It also brings the question- should prices be significantly higher in NYC than when they play in Missouri? 
    Look at Apple- it's basically the same price wherever you go in the world, with small variances here and there. 
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    vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 825
    edited December 2019
    Who is really complaining about ticket prices?  Sorry but they are fair and the band is leaving loads of $$$ on the table.  Pearl Jam is a business with many employees and these prices are significantly lower compared to what they could be charging.  They have kept pricing fairly consistent across venue and city and could be charging what their peers do for a much lesser act and show.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    I look forward to Ten Clubbers blowing a gasket at the Pearl Jam Economist who priced Hungary 15% lower than Croatia 
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    The crux is, people aren't buying music via traditional means anymore. Pearl Jam will release it's new album in the coming months, and a good  proportion won't buy it, instead choosing to listen via their preferred streaming service. I really don't mind paying £80+ for a show as I know they put their heart and soul into a show. What boils my piss is the price of merch. A €40 t-shirt plus ridiculous postage which costs €2/3 to produce, and I'm not convinced the band has a lot of input in. But, the band and others have to make money somehow. It's going to be expensive tickets, merch and special uber limited edition and deluxe versions of albums.
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