Even age catches up to PJ unfortunally

just_one

i think 2:45/3:00 hours are over.

with the news of them having an opening band i think the shows will slow down to 2hours/2:15 hours maybe 2:30 hours

bootlegger10

Fine with me 

mcgruff10

Only playing 12 shows none of which are back to back is pretty good evidence.  

just_one

bootlegger10 said:

Fine with me 

im not complaining , its just an observation

josevolution

lol not one note has been played yet and already skeptical thought abound lol gotta love the fanatics of this band! I use to be this way yrs ago ..

Zod

Maybe a positive glimmer of hope is that the final dates of the 2013 tour had mudhoney opening and they were still 3 hour+ shows.

pjl44

6 months is an awful long time to fret about this

PJNB

The band will come on their normal start time and do the set they want to do. An opening band is not going to change this. 2018's average number of songs where already trending down though and I see it staying that way for this tour too unless the new album drops which I do not see happening. 

Tim Simmons

will Pearl Jam fans always find things to wring our hands about? 

bootlegger10

A 14 show tour in 30 days could be a sign they will still play their 2:45 to 3:00 shows.   If they had a 40 date tour then I think they would shorten the shows.

SomethingCreative

They seriously only went like 2 or 3 years of consistent 3+ hr shows anyways

Spiritual_Chaos

The Last Action Hero would have been better with 15-20 minutes removed. 




Don't see the problem with a 2h30m playtime. 2h45m is the sweetspot though. 

SomethingCreative

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Last Action Hero would have been better with 15-20 minutes removed. 




Don't see the problem with a 2h30m playtime. 2h45m is the sweetspot though. 

🤣🤣 word

josevolution

I’d rather get 2 hrs of solid tight set then those 3hr shows where by the end they are sloppy trying to fit all the songs into the set ..

tempo_n_groove

If they slowed the songs down and played normal speed for some of them I'm all for less songs and shorter times.

Hell I'm just glad we have a tour coming!

cp3iverson

1998 tour was 25 songs a night.  It was perfect. 

Gern Blansten

An opener just fills time when PJ isn't on stage anyway.

What was the start time last year?  Like 830?  An opener from 730-815 isn't going to take much away from a normal set.

one_stone

Zod said:

Maybe a positive glimmer of hope is that the final dates of the 2013 tour had mudhoney opening and they were still 3 hour+ shows.

Quick history check on the last Berlin shows:

2009 with opener 31 song set
2010 with opener 28 song set
2012 without opener 30 song set
2014 without opener 34 song set
2018 without opener 27 song set

So basically the opener hasn't significantly influenced the number of PJ songs at all (in my opinion)

stuckinline

tempo_n_groove said:

If they slowed the songs down and played normal speed for some of them I'm all for less songs and shorter times.

Hell I'm just glad we have a tour coming!

^ This

SomethingCreative

one_stone said:

Zod said:

Maybe a positive glimmer of hope is that the final dates of the 2013 tour had mudhoney opening and they were still 3 hour+ shows.

Quick history check on the last Berlin shows:

2009 with opener 31 song set
2010 with opener 28 song set
2012 without opener 30 song set
2014 without opener 34 song set
2018 without opener 27 song set

So basically the opener hasn't significantly influenced the number of PJ songs at all (in my opinion)

Thank you for taking the time to look that up, So many people lean on that reason for not wanting an opener.  Too bad nobody will read it lol

pjl44

I would have killed for an opener at the Fenway shows 

evenflow82

As long as we don't have endure the sleater kinney rockin in the free world car crash ever again I am fine with openers.  

Tim Simmons

Oh man, I'd kill for SK opening again. Still the best rock band in the world.

pjl44

Tim Simmons said:

Oh man, I'd kill for SK opening again. Still the best rock band in the world.

Current SK I can give or take but vintage SK hell yeah 

JPPJ84

Age catches up with everybody so I won’t hold that against anyone. I’m just terribly excited and happy my favorite band is still touring and is still excellent live!

Tim Simmons

The stadium shows definitely needed an opener or two. It should feel like a mini festival because of the size.

Lerxst1992

one_stone said:

Zod said:

Maybe a positive glimmer of hope is that the final dates of the 2013 tour had mudhoney opening and they were still 3 hour+ shows.

Quick history check on the last Berlin shows:

2009 with opener 31 song set
2010 with opener 28 song set
2012 without opener 30 song set
2014 without opener 34 song set
2018 without opener 27 song set

So basically the opener hasn't significantly influenced the number of PJ songs at all (in my opinion)

Damn I love this board when the stats are posted

If they limit covers to 2 then by all means 2 hour 15 minutes will be plenty.

lotsalemon

tempo_n_groove said:

If they slowed the songs down and played normal speed for some of them I'm all for less songs and shorter times.

Hell I'm just glad we have a tour coming!

I'm with you on this one!

PJ-Cubs

JPPJ84 said:

Age catches up with everybody so I won’t hold that against anyone. I’m just terribly excited and happy my favorite band is still touring and is still excellent live!

Age hasn't really slowed Bruce down yet.  PJ will follow his lead and keep going 2:45+

HesCalledDyer

tempo_n_groove said:

If they slowed the songs down and played normal speed for some of them I'm all for less songs and shorter times.

Hell I'm just glad we have a tour coming!

With ya on this, Chris!

iOnlyownMymind

PJ-Cubs said:

JPPJ84 said:

Age catches up with everybody so I won’t hold that against anyone. I’m just terribly excited and happy my favorite band is still touring and is still excellent live!

Age hasn't really slowed Bruce down yet.  PJ will follow his lead and keep going 2:45+

I think the vocals might be harder on EV than a lot of people think. Bruce doesn’t do songs like Blood.