2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

bbiggs

JimmyV said:

bbiggs said:

JimmyV said:

JimmyV said:

JimmyV said:

dimitrispearljam said:

JimmyV said:

2016 Blue States:

Washington

Oregon

California

Nevada

Colorado

New Mexico

Minnesota

Illinois

Virginia

New York

Vermont

New Hampshire

Maine

Massachusetts

Rhode Island

Connecticut

New Jersey

Delaware

Maryland

Washington, DC

in this list..way is posted..Odd Number u looking for kick off ...

2016 Blue States:

Washington

Oregon

California

Nevada

Colorado

New Mexico

Minnesota

Illinois

Virginia

New York

Vermont

New Hampshire

Maine

Massachusetts

Rhode Island

Connecticut

New Jersey

Delaware

Maryland

Washington, DC

Also, we are kicking off in either WA, CA, CO, MN, VA, VT, ME, RI, NJ, or MD. 

St. Louis confirmed

Another drivable city for me. Looks like my car is racking up some mileage this year. 

In 2014 we tried to fly there from Boston. Connection in Chicago got cancelled, so we rented a car and drove the rest of the way. Was so worth it to hear Footsteps live for the first time...but that was a loooong day.

The drive does suck! But I’m guessing maybe they play there and Nashville in a short span of one another, so that would break up some of the drive if the stars align. We shall see. 

lmckenney24

So we have Toronto. Hamilton, Nashville, St Louis, any others?

TM307021

SandyRavage said:

Most venues take 60 % of merch sales. And thats industry standard. 

dang if that's true then it makes sense (especially due to demand) for PJ to set up booths outside of the venue.

pjhawks

dimitrispearljam said:

lmckenney24 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

and a couple more details..
europe 2009 tour was announced on saturday  and not only that..they put the ticket on sale up with the announcement..and i went buy the 4 shows tickets of it(london sb show was announce later).
and was so easy,...cos if u remember back then,,when ticket went on sale here was a clusterfuck and site crash.during sales .but that one was bam,,.i actulally was in facebook mesenger for an hour with friend talking which shows to go,and if want to choose seated or ga,who has low 10c number..cos noone knew was up for sale,..,was funny..
what is shitty in business is how opening bands treated from promoters...it sucks seriously...
and a third thing cos i mention it in the comment before..
lets do a poll,..how much money u guys think goes to the band from a show shirt when they sell a 35 $ shirt at teh venue..?
its crazy whats going on...its pure business and all parties of a show wants to drink blood..in the name of the band is playing.

My guess is less than $8

i think the number must be 5-8 dollars  tops
cos,,a shirt lets say needs 3-4 dollars to be made,,now add the profit of the merch company..maybe need to pay the artist who made the shirt, seperetaly ..the workers need to be paid the day of the show..and  then there is the cut of the promoter,the cut of the venue allows u to sell those in their venue,of to all that,,add the taxes.
so the band who their name is on the shirt...they playing the show  get less than 20% of the shirt..

isn't PJ different though? no record company to share profits with and sell merchandise outside venue themselves. I imagine the outside sales still require some $$ going to venue and promoters but I'd imagine PJ gets more of the merchandise than most.

NewfieintheUSA

Dimi, any chance the home of the 2013 Men's college basketball National Champions (before they had to vacate it) getting a show? Maybe between St. Louis and Nashville?

JimmyV

lmckenney24 said:

So we have Toronto. Hamilton, Nashville, St Louis, any others?

We know the tour starts and ends in blue states, but we are yet to learn any specific blue state shows. 

dimitrispearljam

SandyRavage said:

Most venues take 60 % of merch sales. And thats industry standard. 

 i think one of the reasons pj got that company to deal with their merch..msurt is cos they venues fucked them over in merch slaes in the past.

D-Rod

dimitrispearljam said:

lmckenney24 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

and a couple more details..
europe 2009 tour was announced on saturday  and not only that..they put the ticket on sale up with the announcement..and i went buy the 4 shows tickets of it(london sb show was announce later).
and was so easy,...cos if u remember back then,,when ticket went on sale here was a clusterfuck and site crash.during sales .but that one was bam,,.i actulally was in facebook mesenger for an hour with friend talking which shows to go,and if want to choose seated or ga,who has low 10c number..cos noone knew was up for sale,..,was funny..
what is shitty in business is how opening bands treated from promoters...it sucks seriously...
and a third thing cos i mention it in the comment before..
lets do a poll,..how much money u guys think goes to the band from a show shirt when they sell a 35 $ shirt at teh venue..?
its crazy whats going on...its pure business and all parties of a show wants to drink blood..in the name of the band is playing.

My guess is less than $8

i think the number must be 5-8 dollars  tops
cos,,a shirt lets say needs 3-4 dollars to be made,,now add the profit of the merch company..maybe need to pay the artist who made the shirt, seperetaly ..the workers need to be paid the day of the show..and  then there is the cut of the promoter,the cut of the venue allows u to sell those in their venue,of to all that,,add the taxes.
so the band who their name is on the shirt...they playing the show  get less than 20% of the shirt..

That's why I can't understand why they don't sell more concert merch on their website.   They could cut out several middle men.

drakeheuer14

SandyRavage said:

Most venues take 60 % of merch sales. And thats industry standard. 

That is most definitely not correct. 30% tops and that is if you shit the bed negotiating. 

Poncier

dimitrispearljam said:

 even how much % this days are the cuts of all parties in a 20 dollar shirt

20 dollar shirt...holy time warp to 1989 Batman!

dimitrispearljam

D-Rod said:

dimitrispearljam said:

lmckenney24 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

and a couple more details..
europe 2009 tour was announced on saturday  and not only that..they put the ticket on sale up with the announcement..and i went buy the 4 shows tickets of it(london sb show was announce later).
and was so easy,...cos if u remember back then,,when ticket went on sale here was a clusterfuck and site crash.during sales .but that one was bam,,.i actulally was in facebook mesenger for an hour with friend talking which shows to go,and if want to choose seated or ga,who has low 10c number..cos noone knew was up for sale,..,was funny..
what is shitty in business is how opening bands treated from promoters...it sucks seriously...
and a third thing cos i mention it in the comment before..
lets do a poll,..how much money u guys think goes to the band from a show shirt when they sell a 35 $ shirt at teh venue..?
its crazy whats going on...its pure business and all parties of a show wants to drink blood..in the name of the band is playing.

My guess is less than $8

i think the number must be 5-8 dollars  tops
cos,,a shirt lets say needs 3-4 dollars to be made,,now add the profit of the merch company..maybe need to pay the artist who made the shirt, seperetaly ..the workers need to be paid the day of the show..and  then there is the cut of the promoter,the cut of the venue allows u to sell those in their venue,of to all that,,add the taxes.
so the band who their name is on the shirt...they playing the show  get less than 20% of the shirt..

That's why I can't understand why they don't sell more concert merch on their website.   They could cut out several middle men.

 i hear ya,,but i dont know the deals been made.but as all shows merch pj sold in their website only left overs from shows..i dont remember in the past to print more shirts after the tour and sell online,,maybe is how the contracts been made?
i dont know,

dimitrispearljam

pjhawks said:

dimitrispearljam said:

lmckenney24 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

and a couple more details..
europe 2009 tour was announced on saturday  and not only that..they put the ticket on sale up with the announcement..and i went buy the 4 shows tickets of it(london sb show was announce later).
and was so easy,...cos if u remember back then,,when ticket went on sale here was a clusterfuck and site crash.during sales .but that one was bam,,.i actulally was in facebook mesenger for an hour with friend talking which shows to go,and if want to choose seated or ga,who has low 10c number..cos noone knew was up for sale,..,was funny..
what is shitty in business is how opening bands treated from promoters...it sucks seriously...
and a third thing cos i mention it in the comment before..
lets do a poll,..how much money u guys think goes to the band from a show shirt when they sell a 35 $ shirt at teh venue..?
its crazy whats going on...its pure business and all parties of a show wants to drink blood..in the name of the band is playing.

My guess is less than $8

i think the number must be 5-8 dollars  tops
cos,,a shirt lets say needs 3-4 dollars to be made,,now add the profit of the merch company..maybe need to pay the artist who made the shirt, seperetaly ..the workers need to be paid the day of the show..and  then there is the cut of the promoter,the cut of the venue allows u to sell those in their venue,of to all that,,add the taxes.
so the band who their name is on the shirt...they playing the show  get less than 20% of the shirt..

isn't PJ different though? no record company to share profits with and sell merchandise outside venue themselves. I imagine the outside sales still require some $$ going to venue and promoters but I'd imagine PJ gets more of the merchandise than most.

 im sure u need lisence and pay for rent the place your truck will sell the shirts..probably is ion the parking lot of the venue.,.im sure the venue will not let u do it for free

Zod

D-Rod said:

dimitrispearljam said:

lmckenney24 said:

dimitrispearljam said:

and a couple more details..
europe 2009 tour was announced on saturday  and not only that..they put the ticket on sale up with the announcement..and i went buy the 4 shows tickets of it(london sb show was announce later).
and was so easy,...cos if u remember back then,,when ticket went on sale here was a clusterfuck and site crash.during sales .but that one was bam,,.i actulally was in facebook mesenger for an hour with friend talking which shows to go,and if want to choose seated or ga,who has low 10c number..cos noone knew was up for sale,..,was funny..
what is shitty in business is how opening bands treated from promoters...it sucks seriously...
and a third thing cos i mention it in the comment before..
lets do a poll,..how much money u guys think goes to the band from a show shirt when they sell a 35 $ shirt at teh venue..?
its crazy whats going on...its pure business and all parties of a show wants to drink blood..in the name of the band is playing.

My guess is less than $8

i think the number must be 5-8 dollars  tops
cos,,a shirt lets say needs 3-4 dollars to be made,,now add the profit of the merch company..maybe need to pay the artist who made the shirt, seperetaly ..the workers need to be paid the day of the show..and  then there is the cut of the promoter,the cut of the venue allows u to sell those in their venue,of to all that,,add the taxes.
so the band who their name is on the shirt...they playing the show  get less than 20% of the shirt..

That's why I can't understand why they don't sell more concert merch on their website.   They could cut out several middle men.

PJ doesn't tour that much.  So every few years for a short period of time they'd need a massive influx of staff to handle those orders.  It's probably easier to farm it out then hire a bunch of temp workers and hope for the best.

dimitrispearljam

NewfieintheUSA said:

Dimi, any chance the home of the 2013 Men's college basketball National Champions (before they had to vacate it) getting a show? Maybe between St. Louis and Nashville?

 is that the one has Rick pitino as coach u talking about?

NewfieintheUSA

dimitrispearljam said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Dimi, any chance the home of the 2013 Men's college basketball National Champions (before they had to vacate it) getting a show? Maybe between St. Louis and Nashville?

 is that the one has Rick pitino as coach u talking about?

That had him, yes, before he ended up in Greece!

pjl44

Thoughts and prayers to the guy who logs in 3 hours from now, sees 80 new posts in this thread, gets excited, then gets a lesson in tshirt economics.

Unless that guy is in St. Louis, in which case he's stoked.

RoleModelsinBlood31

20%! Thats a better margin than a lot of the items at my restaurants!

D-Rod

JimmyV said:

lmckenney24 said:

So we have Toronto. Hamilton, Nashville, St Louis, any others?

We know the tour starts and ends in blue states, but we are yet to learn any specific blue state shows. 

Ottawa/Quebec City. 

HughFreakingDillon

pjl44 said:

Thoughts and prayers to the guy who logs in 3 hours from now, sees 80 new posts in this thread, gets excited, then gets a lesson in tshirt economics.

Unless that guy is in St. Louis, in which case he's stoked.

LMAO

tdawe

D-Rod said:

JimmyV said:

lmckenney24 said:

So we have Toronto. Hamilton, Nashville, St Louis, any others?

We know the tour starts and ends in blue states, but we are yet to learn any specific blue state shows. 

Ottawa/Quebec City. 

Tulsa/Europa.