2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

Falling Down

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

MickeyMouse

Sarava said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

I've heard a few people say that they only update the odds twice a day. I know for the US shows, the odds I see right now for my 3 shows (STL and LA) are the same as they were yesterday evening when I put my picks in. So we will all see a big dip at some point today I'm sure.

FAQ says they update twice a day. 

jefft

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

We can get some real shitty weather in March.

RoleModelsinBlood31

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Most people are putting “best available,” so the system is counting that as a GA request because that’s what it considers the best available.  There’s not a 99% chance there’s seats, the system just marks it down as that because it doesn’t take a guess at your chances for both seats and GA.

Falling Down

jefft said:

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

We can get some real shitty weather in March.

The worst snowstorms are usually in March. But... taking the train between TO then Ottawa then Quebec back down to Hamilton will ensure you get there no matter the weather. 

D-Rod

I plan to drive between the 4 Canadian shows but I will have my dog sled on stand by. 

BV84003

Vedd Hedd said:

opsopcopolis said:

kaw753 said:

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

We are also paying $20 in fees per ticket for the new privilege of being able to resell tickets at face value. Ticketmaster is making roughly $300,000 per night without having to do anything dubious or nefarious. This is likely also extremely small potatoes compared to Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift tour money, which is likely their end goal with this fan club model. 

Pretty sure they're still cheaper than last time around

Yes, seems about the same, if not a bit cheaper.

My Toronto 10c tickets last tour were $157 for a PAIR. It's about $120 for just a single ticket this time around. In no way is that anywhere near the same, let alone cheaper.

D-Rod

BV84003 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

opsopcopolis said:

kaw753 said:

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

We are also paying $20 in fees per ticket for the new privilege of being able to resell tickets at face value. Ticketmaster is making roughly $300,000 per night without having to do anything dubious or nefarious. This is likely also extremely small potatoes compared to Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift tour money, which is likely their end goal with this fan club model. 

Pretty sure they're still cheaper than last time around

Yes, seems about the same, if not a bit cheaper.

My Toronto 10c tickets last tour were $157 for a PAIR. It's about $120 for just a single ticket this time around. In no way is that anywhere near the same, let alone cheaper.

Wasn’t that 157 American?  I know “ my tickets” say 157 but I remember getting my Master Card Bill that they were more expensive. 

Sarava

BV84003 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

opsopcopolis said:

kaw753 said:

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

We are also paying $20 in fees per ticket for the new privilege of being able to resell tickets at face value. Ticketmaster is making roughly $300,000 per night without having to do anything dubious or nefarious. This is likely also extremely small potatoes compared to Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift tour money, which is likely their end goal with this fan club model. 

Pretty sure they're still cheaper than last time around

Yes, seems about the same, if not a bit cheaper.

My Toronto 10c tickets last tour were $157 for a PAIR. It's about $120 for just a single ticket this time around. In no way is that anywhere near the same, let alone cheaper.

It's all relative. The St. Louis tickets are cheaper for a pair than my Wrigley pair was in 2018.

demetrios

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

We can get some real shitty weather in March.

The worst snowstorms are usually in March. But... taking the train between TO then Ottawa then Quebec back down to Hamilton will ensure you get there no matter the weather. 

Can't wait! We will be driving from Atlantic Canada, doing all 4 shows in Ontario and Quebec. Instead of doing the usual train, bus & plane route, this years Pearl Jam tour is by car. 

BV84003

D-Rod said:

BV84003 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

opsopcopolis said:

kaw753 said:

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

We are also paying $20 in fees per ticket for the new privilege of being able to resell tickets at face value. Ticketmaster is making roughly $300,000 per night without having to do anything dubious or nefarious. This is likely also extremely small potatoes compared to Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift tour money, which is likely their end goal with this fan club model. 

Pretty sure they're still cheaper than last time around

Yes, seems about the same, if not a bit cheaper.

My Toronto 10c tickets last tour were $157 for a PAIR. It's about $120 for just a single ticket this time around. In no way is that anywhere near the same, let alone cheaper.

Wasn’t that 157 American?  I know “ my tickets” say 157 but I remember getting my Master Card Bill that they were more expensive. 

Yeah, it was $157 US, but I don't recall what my actual CC charge was.  I should add that I am in the US; maybe Canadian CCs had a fee for the Tenclub purchase last time. I assume I'll likely get hit with an additional fee for this as well, too since it's in $CAD.

YourLightMadeUsStars

Does anyone know when we find out if we’ve been selected for tickets? I understand you have to submit your picks by tomorrow but thought I saw somewhere that tickets will only be determined through the day on Sunday.. can’t seem to find that now though.

Anything to worry about if we’re not charged on Thursday? 

josevolution

YourLightMadeUsStars said:

Does anyone know when we find out if we’ve been selected for tickets? I understand you have to submit your picks by tomorrow but thought I saw somewhere that tickets will only be determined through the day on Sunday.. can’t seem to find that now though.

Anything to worry about if we’re not charged on Thursday? 

By Sunday it will all be decided..

bootlegger10

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Most people are putting “best available,” so the system is counting that as a GA request because that’s what it considers the best available.  There’s not a 99% chance there’s seats, the system just marks it down as that because it doesn’t take a guess at your chances for both seats and GA.

This is an interesting point and makes some sense.  Was this confirmed with Ticketmaster? 

MickeyMouse

bootlegger10 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Most people are putting “best available,” so the system is counting that as a GA request because that’s what it considers the best available.  There’s not a 99% chance there’s seats, the system just marks it down as that because it doesn’t take a guess at your chances for both seats and GA.

This is an interesting point and makes some sense.  Was this confirmed with Ticketmaster? 

I don’t think it’s confirmed but it makes a lot of sense 

pbultimate

Or...everyone that has a Reserved in their selection, so far, will get them. Any leftovers will be put to the public sales. Win/win for everyone involved. 

Falling Down

demetrios said:

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

We can get some real shitty weather in March.

The worst snowstorms are usually in March. But... taking the train between TO then Ottawa then Quebec back down to Hamilton will ensure you get there no matter the weather. 

Can't wait! We will be driving from Atlantic Canada, doing all 4 shows in Ontario and Quebec. Instead of doing the usual train, bus & plane route, this years Pearl Jam tour is by car. 

Same here! Except that for Ottawa, four of us will rent a limo cause we all need to be back in Montreal in time to head for the ski slopes on Saturday morning for the final day of kids ski lessons. 

bootlegger10

MickeyMouse said:

bootlegger10 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Most people are putting “best available,” so the system is counting that as a GA request because that’s what it considers the best available.  There’s not a 99% chance there’s seats, the system just marks it down as that because it doesn’t take a guess at your chances for both seats and GA.

This is an interesting point and makes some sense.  Was this confirmed with Ticketmaster? 

I don’t think it’s confirmed but it makes a lot of sense 

It seems like their odds system should take this into account though.  A pretty simple variable.  I hopefully think they have more tickets and their odds factor in best available overflowing to reserved once the GA tickets are sold out.

jamofpearls

Those trying to book flights, Southwest is running a special right now for the spring.
Link

mcgruff10

Falling Down said:

jefft said:

ally12 said:

I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible? 

Lots of seats.

Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter. 

I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good?  @Falling Down