2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

IlliniGuy76

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

Higher than this (if 10c indeed did get quite a lot more seats)  - I paid ~$215 before fees for nosebleeds for MSG1 last tour.

drando

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

pjl44

JM144705 said:

Anyone (looking at you @dimitrispearljam) know when the first single is gonna drop?

The date floating around is the 24th

pjl44

JB273578 said:

Help please. 

In Denver, I really really want GA, but I also don't want to be left out. I have been an active member since 2015.  Should I do both or just try for GA?  I am only going to one show.

Thanks!

Jim

Choose Best Available. You'll get GA if it's available, with reserved seats as the backup.

ComeToTX

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

Wouldn’t 10C be the ones assigning seat locations to members?

Saltzy23

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think you're over thinking it.  I'm sure that the PJ/10C side of this is all above board.

I'm also pretty sure that TM basically said, 'OK, we will go along with all that, but we can do what-ever-the-fuck we want to with the remaining inventory.'

Not really much you can do if they leak some it out the backdoor for market value. Again, it might not be ideal, it's just life in the big city and all that.

YAKIMATSU

How would scalpers get the wristbands to use extra tm tickets if there were such? I'm kinda naive to this stuff. GA that is.

drando

ComeToTX said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

Wouldn’t 10C be the ones assigning seat locations to members?

Good question,  I think Tickemaster handling this.  One person earlier said he called the 800 number they said your best chance of getting in the building is pick Best available.  If 10c was handling it why get TM involved at all and pay the fees.  They would have just ran it like they always do.

drando

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think you're over thinking it.  I'm sure that the PJ/10C side of this is all above board.

I'm also pretty sure that TM basically said, 'OK, we will go along with all that, but we can do what-ever-the-fuck we want to with the remaining inventory.'

Not really much you can do if they leak some it out the backdoor for market value. Again, it might not be ideal, it's just life in the big city and all that.

Yes the PJ/10c side of it is definitely above board,  but people may get shutout do to TM shenanigans.

drando

We all know the pit is all 10c members unless you have pull.  So  lets see.

bootlegger10

drando said:

ComeToTX said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

Wouldn’t 10C be the ones assigning seat locations to members?

Good question,  I think Tickemaster handling this.  One person earlier said he called the 800 number they said your best chance of getting in the building is pick Best available.  If 10c was handling it why get TM involved at all and pay the fees.  They would have just ran it like they always do.

Software.  

CopperTom

symptomsfade said:

MickeyMouse said:

symptomsfade said:

D-Rod said:

demetrios said:

Early in the pre sale ..

The Toronto and Hamilton shows will be all 10 club members.  Look at all of that blue 

All blue is 10c????  That’s crazy!  That’s a shit ton of tix!  Love it....let’s bring it to Hamilton 10c!

All blue is NOT “all” 10c. Those are sections where 10c has tickets. Does not mean every seat in every row is 10c. Like the 2018 stadium shows, they have seats throughout the arena now, not just the closest sections. More tickets = some members get worse seats, but more people get in. 

Anything in grey will be sold during the other sales and have no 10c seats. 

👍Thought that was a bit much.  Still I like more available seats getting us all in the arena.  

Did anyone take screenshots of the US venues?

drando

bootlegger10 said:

drando said:

ComeToTX said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

Wouldn’t 10C be the ones assigning seat locations to members?

Good question,  I think Tickemaster handling this.  One person earlier said he called the 800 number they said your best chance of getting in the building is pick Best available.  If 10c was handling it why get TM involved at all and pay the fees.  They would have just ran it like they always do.

Software.  

Yes software.  Software can do whatever TM wants it to do.  We are talking about the same band that fought these folks back in the day.  TM should have no part of the 10c tickets.  As a lot of these seats are premium.

Saltzy23

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think you're over thinking it.  I'm sure that the PJ/10C side of this is all above board.

I'm also pretty sure that TM basically said, 'OK, we will go along with all that, but we can do what-ever-the-fuck we want to with the remaining inventory.'

Not really much you can do if they leak some it out the backdoor for market value. Again, it might not be ideal, it's just life in the big city and all that.

Yes the PJ/10c side of it is definitely above board,  but people may get shutout do to TM shenanigans.

This will not be a popular opinion here, but just go with me.

PJ walks into a meeting and says, 'OK, we want you to handle 100% of our ticketing.  10C, Verified Presale, General sale.  The whole bit.  You get to charge fees on 100% of the tickets. In exchange, we need 70% of them (guessing here) to be sold to our fan club for probably like 50%-70% what they would cost if we just had a traditional sale.'

If you are TM, and you know how scarce the other 30% is gonna be and what they will go for there is a big part of me that understands why a certain amount of them leak out directly on StubHub at a 'market' price.

jimjam1982

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

YAKIMATSU

"Ticketmaster sucks, Ticketmaster sucks,  Ticketmaster sucks"
Soldier field 1995 after Ed talks about ticketing issues.
Wtf is happening? 
This better go perfectly. 

IlliniGuy76

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

You guys are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY overthinking this........

It's really as simple as 10c didn't want to (more than likely) deal with the lottery, handing out of tickets etc. and are working with TM who easily has the platform to do so.  Really - that simple.

drando

I do have a question,  Do you think the band could sell out MSG with just 10c members,  If they allowed 4 tickets each?  I know they cant do it due to contracts between Ticketmaster and the promoters,  but could they do it?  I think so.  You have people wanting to see them at MSG all the time.  People would be coming from up and down the east coast and from the otherside of the pond.  One show only not two.

CO278952

pjl44 said:

I think Best Available means GA first, Reserved second. If you prefer Reserved, only choose Reserved. That's how I would handle it and be reasonably confident about it. 

Absolutely. The best available seats are objectively the closer ones to the stage. 

drando

IlliniGuy76 said:

jimjam1982 said:

drando said:

Saltzy23 said:

drando said:

It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off.  My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money.  Shady I know but I would not put it past them.  How would the 10C know?

The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.

Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices.  Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.

My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees.  Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.

I just don't trust Ticketmaster,  they can say they ran the algo.  Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market.  I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members.  PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them.  I put in for my shows and will hope I get them,  but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.

I think if this is truly an experiment for Ticketmaster and they want to be able to partner with all the bands out there and their fan clubs... this is the one they won't fuck up.  They can be like we made amends with PJ and we do it right.  That would go away to so many other contracts and fan clubs far less dedicated than 10C.

You guys are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY overthinking this........

It's really as simple as 10c didn't want to (more than likely) deal with the lottery, handing out of tickets etc. and are working with TM who easily has the platform to do so.  Really - that simple.

Yes they can handle it,  but can they be trusted,  knowing how much money is on the table.