2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

100 Pacer

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

pjl44

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

Get_Right

And more than half of them are scalpers LOL

jdizzle8291

JimmyV said:

jdizzle8291 said:

bgirl59 said:

JimmyV said:

If it was only Boston getting skipped, I could see it being because they just played four Fenway shows in three years. But no Boston, no Hartford, no Philadelphia and only one show in NYC? Gotta think something big is planned for the fall.

 JimmyV,  it would be nice to know NOW, if I can skip NYC because there will be a fall show in Philly.....when will we know about any fall shows? or is it somewhere in the 168 pages above??

There has yet to be anything solid concerning N.A. in the fall. Just those who feel like they have to play New England and Philly in the fall.

I wouldn't say they have to do anything. It's just that, given their history, not doing so would be strange. 

For sure. Sorry - I didn't mean that as a dig to anyone. I guess I was trying to say that same thing in a different way. I, too, think it would be strange if they don't play Boston/Philly/only 1 NYC show in a new album year, especially.

100 Pacer

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

I believe Tim mentioned ~250,000 active memberships a decade or so ago give or take? My guess is between 250,000-350,000 active memberships today.

JimmyV

jdizzle8291 said:

JimmyV said:

jdizzle8291 said:

bgirl59 said:

JimmyV said:

If it was only Boston getting skipped, I could see it being because they just played four Fenway shows in three years. But no Boston, no Hartford, no Philadelphia and only one show in NYC? Gotta think something big is planned for the fall.

 JimmyV,  it would be nice to know NOW, if I can skip NYC because there will be a fall show in Philly.....when will we know about any fall shows? or is it somewhere in the 168 pages above??

There has yet to be anything solid concerning N.A. in the fall. Just those who feel like they have to play New England and Philly in the fall.

I wouldn't say they have to do anything. It's just that, given their history, not doing so would be strange. 

For sure. Sorry - I didn't mean that as a dig to anyone. I guess I was trying to say that same thing in a different way. I, too, think it would be strange if they don't play Boston/Philly/only 1 NYC show in a new album year, especially.

No worries, I figured that is what you meant. 

If it's ballparks then that will mean late summer/early fall. Those announcements would need to come soon.  

pjl44

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

I believe Tim mentioned ~250,000 active memberships a decade or so ago give or take? My guess is between 250,000-350,000 active memberships today.

I'd love to see a source on that. I thought the number quoted was much, much lower but am just going on memory and could certainly be wrong. It's hard for me to believe that half or so of every membership purchased over 25-30 years has been regularly renewed. I'm sure the auto-renewals help with that, but still.

Gern Blansten

dlymnfld said:

Gern Blansten said:

TA243471 said:

My wife just got #703***

wow...my 427K doesn't look so bad

I used to be so upset I let my 93xx number lapse and was stuck with a shitty 218xxx number. Now my number is gold . 

yeah I had a much better number at one point....maybe closer to your 200K number and I accidentally let it lapse due to an email change

darwinstheory

Lost In Ohio said:

Spoonman110 said:

I’m still thinking we get an announcement on the 6th or 7th with the lottery starting that day  and the general public on sale on the 13th

If not then, the 10th is a great time for an official reminder.

I don't know that we'll get the reminder. I mean, we just got a reminder less than 60 days ago. 

Lost In Ohio

given2fly23 said:

gotthebottle said:

It's sad how many people can't read the directions and make mistakes and get things they didn't want....

And screw over fans who desperately wanted those tickets.

Exactly. You know it's gonna happen within 24 hours of the lotto window closing:

"Help! I didn't want both LA nights and the San Diego night! My boss says I can't take that much time off work...I thought I could only win one night. If I email 10C, do you think they could help??"

Meanwhile, 15 threads: "ISO SD GA or seats."

Lost In Ohio

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

I believe Tim mentioned ~250,000 active memberships a decade or so ago give or take? My guess is between 250,000-350,000 active memberships today.

Either way, I like my 279XXX...I'm hoping for another Columbus or Cincinnati show, especially if it's the same tour as multiple stops in Philly, NYC and Boston.

tschav

If anything, they’ll announce the presale without a need to tell people to renew their membership. Helps avoid last second 10c account signups for scalping.

Still thinking a presale announcement after the weekend (1/6-1/7), lottery drawn by the end of the week, and public sale the week after.

Brane_of_JFK

dlymnfld said:

Gern Blansten said:

TA243471 said:

My wife just got #703***

wow...my 427K doesn't look so bad

I used to be so upset I let my 93xx number lapse and was stuck with a shitty 218xxx number. Now my number is gold . 

Same boat. Had 75xxx and mistakenly let it slip. Still 169xxx though...

Indifference

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

I believe Tim mentioned ~250,000 active memberships a decade or so ago give or take? My guess is between 250,000-350,000 active memberships today.

I'd love to see a source on that. I thought the number quoted was much, much lower but am just going on memory and could certainly be wrong. It's hard for me to believe that half or so of every membership purchased over 25-30 years has been regularly renewed. I'm sure the auto-renewals help with that, but still.

Here is an article citing @200K in 2013.  

https://www.inc.com/3-superfan-strategies-from-pearl-jam.html

Poncier

tschav said:

If anything, they’ll announce the presale without a need to tell people to renew their membership. Helps avoid last second 10c account signups for scalping.

Right. The announcement will for example be on 1/6 and say lottery is open to all 10c members whose membership was active as of 1/05/20.

VG194499

pjl44 said:

I'd love to see a source on that. I thought the number quoted was much, much lower but am just going on memory and could certainly be wrong. It's hard for me to believe that half or so of every membership purchased over 25-30 years has been regularly renewed. I'm sure the auto-renewals help with that, but still.

I've had 3 different numbers because I'm bad at renewing things. So, I'd agree with you.

Bentleyspop

Lost In Ohio said:

given2fly23 said:

gotthebottle said:

It's sad how many people can't read the directions and make mistakes and get things they didn't want....

And screw over fans who desperately wanted those tickets.

Exactly. You know it's gonna happen within 24 hours of the lotto window closing:

"Help! I didn't want both LA nights and the San Diego night! My boss says I can't take that much time off work...I thought I could only win one night. If I email 10C, do you think they could help??"

Meanwhile, 15 threads: "ISO SD GA or seats."

Don't forget all the song request threads

100 Pacer

Indifference said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bgirl59 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Lerxst1992 said:

SpinTheLastExit said:

Brisk. said:

how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?

I was just about to ask this - it's the only date I'm eyeing up currently

.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.

NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably  for Baltimore 

A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available  as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.

Yeah I'm aware it's a hot ticket, might as well try and give it a punt anyway. It's just the flights are so cheap to NYC. Already doing Europe shows

  Happy New Year!! SpinTheLastExit, where are you finding cheap flights to NYC??? or where are you flying from to NYC??? I really want to do MSG - trying to pick places I haven't seen PJ in, but the flights to NYC from Tucson are $500 before I pick my seat! HELP Please...

My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ. 

Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.

If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)

tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.

There aren't hundreds of thousands of active member numbers 

Yes there are.

Is this a semantic argument? I realize what member number we're up to, but there aren't hundreds of thousands of active members.

I believe Tim mentioned ~250,000 active memberships a decade or so ago give or take? My guess is between 250,000-350,000 active memberships today.

I'd love to see a source on that. I thought the number quoted was much, much lower but am just going on memory and could certainly be wrong. It's hard for me to believe that half or so of every membership purchased over 25-30 years has been regularly renewed. I'm sure the auto-renewals help with that, but still.

Here is an article citing @200K in 2013.  

https://www.inc.com/3-superfan-strategies-from-pearl-jam.html

Nice find - that’s the article I was thinking of. I was close.

dimitrispearljam

Let's do this 


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