2025/2026 NBA Season October 22nd Opening Tip off! Pg 185

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    The Juggler said:
    Wait....you do not think Joel Embiid is a center?
    I don't think so at all but that is what they list him as, no?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,542
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
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  • The Juggler
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    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    I'm at a loss on this one. lol. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wait....you do not think Joel Embiid is a center?
    I don't think so at all but that is what they list him as, no?
    Wow.
    I mean, Embiid is the purest center in the league currently. Way more so than guys like Jokic or Davis or Adebayo.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    The Juggler said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    I'm at a loss on this one. lol. 
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wait....you do not think Joel Embiid is a center?
    I don't think so at all but that is what they list him as, no?
    Wow.
    I mean, Embiid is the purest center in the league currently. Way more so than guys like Jokic or Davis or Adebayo.
    Oh I don't know.  A center doesn't take the point, dribble up the court or take 3's...  You know, they usually just hang around the paint like shaq, Hakkem, or Robinson?

    Pure center is Goebert.  Embiid is not.  He does everything I mentioned above.
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    Position labels are meaningless in basketball now
  • Poncier
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    The Juggler said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    I'm at a loss on this one. lol. 
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wait....you do not think Joel Embiid is a center?
    I don't think so at all but that is what they list him as, no?
    Wow.
    I mean, Embiid is the purest center in the league currently. Way more so than guys like Jokic or Davis or Adebayo.
    Oh I don't know.  A center doesn't take the point, dribble up the court or take 3's...  You know, they usually just hang around the paint like shaq, Hakkem, or Robinson?

    Pure center is Goebert.  Embiid is not.  He does everything I mentioned above.
    Embiid takes the occasional 3, but in general his offensive game is very comparable to a Hakeem or Robinson.
    Goebert has no offensive game whatsoever, he's only a pure center on the defensive end. He just looks for offensive boards and the occasional lob on the offensive end.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    The Juggler said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    What more "center" things can Embiid do that would make you consider him a center?
    I'm at a loss on this one. lol. 
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wait....you do not think Joel Embiid is a center?
    I don't think so at all but that is what they list him as, no?
    Wow.
    I mean, Embiid is the purest center in the league currently. Way more so than guys like Jokic or Davis or Adebayo.
    Oh I don't know.  A center doesn't take the point, dribble up the court or take 3's...  You know, they usually just hang around the paint like shaq, Hakkem, or Robinson?

    Pure center is Goebert.  Embiid is not.  He does everything I mentioned above.
    Embiid takes the occasional 3, but in general his offensive game is very comparable to a Hakeem or Robinson.
    Goebert has no offensive game whatsoever, he's only a pure center on the defensive end. He just looks for offensive boards and the occasional lob on the offensive end.
    Now this is actually funny because Hakeem has called out Embiid for not playing like a center.  I do not see anything remotely close to him playing like a center.  All the positions are outdated now anyways.
  • tempo_n_groove
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    Jumb0 said:
    Position labels are meaningless in basketball now
    Agreed other than a point guard.  They should retain that name, all the others are stretch and powers.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,542
    The guy makes 33% of his 3's so he should shoot some.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
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    There is literally only one other player in the NBA who posts up more times per game than Embiid. Embiid also lead the league in posts ups each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. Saying he is not a center is simply absurd. 



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  • tempo_n_groove
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    edited April 2023
    The Juggler said:
    There is literally only one other player in the NBA who posts up more times per game than Embiid. Embiid also lead the league in posts ups each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. Saying he is not a center is simply absurd. 



    That's great.  A center doesn't take point and shoot 3's traditionally.  The center position is a stretch 5 now.

    I know you watched 90's basketball.  None of the centers then can or did what they are doing now.

    Giannis, Jokic, embiid hell even Brooke Lopez all do more than what centers did back in the day.

    Edit: I'll add that anyone that leads the league in rebounds should be a center than too?  That's what centers do right?  Rebound and stuff?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    edited April 2023
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    There is literally only one other player in the NBA who posts up more times per game than Embiid. Embiid also lead the league in posts ups each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. Saying he is not a center is simply absurd. 



    That's great.  A center doesn't take point and shoot 3's traditionally.  The center position is a stretch 5 now.

    I know you watched 90's basketball.  None of the centers then can or did what they are doing now.

    Giannis, Jokic, embiid hell even Brooke Lopez all do more than what centers did back in the day.

    Edit: I'll add that anyone that leads the league in rebounds should be a center than too?  That's what centers do right?  Rebound and stuff?
    Why do they call it a stretch 5 instead of a stretch 3? Because they are centers.

    Come on man. Of course we watched basketball in the 90's. MJ averaged less than three 3 point attempts per game back then. It's a completely different game now. But that does not mean a 7 foot 280 pound dude who posts up more than anyone else is anything other than a center (5). 

    Agreed --obviously those guys do more than what centers did back then. You know what though? They're still centers. 

    Rebounds? Was Dennis Rodman a center? 
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  • Wobbie
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    edited April 2023
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    maybe the next round will be better. so far, the NBA playoffs have been a snooze.
    Youre nuts.  Even I am enjoying the Knicks games.
    NBA playoffs have been spectacular thus far, even with taking into account the injuries. 


    you’re only saying that because your sixers swept the mighty spencer dinwiddie led nets. :joy:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • 23scidoo
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    16 point difference at the end of the third period..Μr. Budenholzer, give up yesterday..
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  • Poncier
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    Jimmy Butler is a bad man.
    That shot to send game to OT was something else.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    There is literally only one other player in the NBA who posts up more times per game than Embiid. Embiid also lead the league in posts ups each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. Saying he is not a center is simply absurd. 



    That's great.  A center doesn't take point and shoot 3's traditionally.  The center position is a stretch 5 now.

    I know you watched 90's basketball.  None of the centers then can or did what they are doing now.

    Giannis, Jokic, embiid hell even Brooke Lopez all do more than what centers did back in the day.

    Edit: I'll add that anyone that leads the league in rebounds should be a center than too?  That's what centers do right?  Rebound and stuff?
    Why do they call it a stretch 5 instead of a stretch 3? Because they are centers.

    Come on man. Of course we watched basketball in the 90's. MJ averaged less than three 3 point attempts per game back then. It's a completely different game now. But that does not mean a 7 foot 280 pound dude who posts up more than anyone else is anything other than a center (5). 

    Agreed --obviously those guys do more than what centers did back then. You know what though? They're still centers. 

    Rebounds? Was Dennis Rodman a center? 
    They are called centers, sure.  But they don't function like them is what I'm getting at.  It's like a defensemen leading in scoring.  Sure he's a defensemen but they are a scoring machine too/

    The use of the word center is outdated now as basketball is so fluid with the positions.  It's not set like baseball.

    Would a team even draft a true center anymore?  Late rounds maybe just for a body in the paint?  Serious question.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Heat and Knicks advance.  GS and Grizz still hanging on.
  • JeBurkhardt
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Heat and Knicks advance.  GS and Grizz still hanging on.
    If the Warriors can get their act together on the road, they can make things pretty interesting in the West. 
  • tempo_n_groove
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    JeBurkhardt said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Heat and Knicks advance.  GS and Grizz still hanging on.
    If the Warriors can get their act together on the road, they can make things pretty interesting in the West. 
    They have their core and once they heat up yes.  No reason they can't repeat.

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