2024/2025 NBA Season October 22nd Opening Tip off! Pg 112

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    The Lakers need to rest longer to figure out how to get Alex Caruso back.

    When he left the team went to shit and look at the success of the Bulls now.

    Sometimes it's the role players that can make a team... 
  • Jumb0Jumb0 Posts: 910
    As a Grizzlies fan I need the Lakers to make the play in
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    The Lakers need to rest longer to figure out how to get Alex Caruso back.

    When he left the team went to shit and look at the success of the Bulls now.

    Sometimes it's the role players that can make a team... 
    Alex Caruso meant more to the Lakers than Lebron James?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    The Lakers need to rest longer to figure out how to get Alex Caruso back.

    When he left the team went to shit and look at the success of the Bulls now.

    Sometimes it's the role players that can make a team... 
    Alex Caruso meant more to the Lakers than Lebron James?

    Not like that.  You need LBJ of course but Caruso was a role player that did the little things in the game that was a catalyst.  You watch/play enough basketball and you see these things.

    Caruso meant that much, to me, to the Lakers.

    He won't be an all-star any time soon because that isn't his style of play but he is worth a lot to that team.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited April 2022
    Poncier said:
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.
    You hate to see it. LOL.

    I have full confidence that GM Lebron can figure things out this summer.


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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Poncier said:
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.


    I have full confidence that GM Lebron can figure things out this summer.


    He did such a great job with the Westbrook trade. 
    "Let's space the floor with one of the league's worst outside shooters at $44mil a year!" :lol:
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Poncier said:
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.
    You hate to see it. LOL.

    I have full confidence that GM Lebron can figure things out this summer.


    He is good up to a point.  He can't figure out he intangibles of the players.

    The whole team doesn't play defense anymore...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Poncier said:
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.
    You hate to see it. LOL.

    I have full confidence that GM Lebron can figure things out this summer.


    He is good up to a point.  He can't figure out he intangibles of the players.

    The whole team doesn't play defense anymore...
    Anyone who thought adding Westbrook to that team was a good idea has no business deciding anything along those lines.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Poncier said:
    Do you think Lebron and the Lakers would prefer to miss the playoffs as opposed to making the play-in tourney and then, maybe, getting smoked by the Suns?
    Maybe they're tanking to get into the lottery.
    Memphis or N'awlins would benefit though. 
    So sad to see them falling apart.
    You hate to see it. LOL.

    I have full confidence that GM Lebron can figure things out this summer.


    He is good up to a point.  He can't figure out he intangibles of the players.

    The whole team doesn't play defense anymore...
    Anyone who thought adding Westbrook to that team was a good idea has no business deciding anything along those lines.
    I agree 100%.  Trace back on these pages and I was one of the first to say "not a good idea".  I'm a Lakers fan too so I suffer...
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    edited April 2022
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • BLACK35BLACK35 Posts: 22,751
    Raptors secured a spot last night, better than most expected. I think they could make some noise this yr in the playoffs. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    I said this before.  Lakers lkost Caruso and they haven't been the same.  He had some grit to him and did the little things that make a team click.

    The Bulls seem to be doing pretty good w him.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    edited April 2022
    Yep, Alex Caruso is the missing ingredient.

    Um, no. The problem was trading 3 solid contributing players (Kuzma, Caldwell-Pope and Harrell) plus their 1st round pick for Westbrook, a guy who can't shoot from outside. GM LeBron doesn't quite get the concept of floor spacing and the need for outside shooting the same way player Lebron does. Stupid trade. And they backed out of trading for Buddy Hield (who can shoot from outside) to grab Westbrook instead, and the Hield trade would have not cost the Caldwell-Pope or their first rounder, just Kuzma and Harrell.
    And let's not forget that while they now enter the lottery, their first round pick belongs to N'awlins (unless somehow it ends up being 11th or worse which now seem very unlikely, then it would convey to Memphis from N'awlins).

    Alex Caruso wasn't getting that dumpster fire anywhere further.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Poncier said:
    Yep, Alex Caruso is the missing ingredient.

    Um, no. The problem was trading 3 solid contributing players (Kuzma, Caldwell-Pope and Harrell) plus their 1st round pick for Westbrook, a guy who can't shoot from outside. GM LeBron doesn't quite get the concept of floor spacing and the need for outside shooting the same way player Lebron does. Stupid trade. And they backed out of trading for Buddy Hield (who can shoot from outside) to grab Westbrook instead, and the Hield trade would have not cost the Caldwell-Pope or their first rounder, just Kuzma and Harrell.
    And let's not forget that while they now enter the lottery, their first round pick belongs to N'awlins (unless somehow it ends up being 11th or worse which now seem very unlikely, then it would convey to Memphis from N'awlins).

    Alex Caruso wasn't getting that dumpster fire anywhere further.
    Those 3 were role players, yes.

    Dumping the young for the old was definitely a dumb move but Caruso wasn't a role player?  You dismissed him altogether.  The guys you mention all played a part which is what the Lakers are totally missing right now I just happen to like Caruso the best, lol.

    I have faith though that the Knicks will want him there in NY and trade off their DP's.  Let me dream ok?

    A while ago I asked, begged, pleaded that the Lakers try and get Bradley Beal.  They did not.  They grabbed Westbrook instead...



  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Poncier said:
    Yep, Alex Caruso is the missing ingredient.

    Um, no. The problem was trading 3 solid contributing players (Kuzma, Caldwell-Pope and Harrell) plus their 1st round pick for Westbrook, a guy who can't shoot from outside. GM LeBron doesn't quite get the concept of floor spacing and the need for outside shooting the same way player Lebron does. Stupid trade. And they backed out of trading for Buddy Hield (who can shoot from outside) to grab Westbrook instead, and the Hield trade would have not cost the Caldwell-Pope or their first rounder, just Kuzma and Harrell.
    And let's not forget that while they now enter the lottery, their first round pick belongs to N'awlins (unless somehow it ends up being 11th or worse which now seem very unlikely, then it would convey to Memphis from N'awlins).

    Alex Caruso wasn't getting that dumpster fire anywhere further.
    Those 3 were role players, yes.

    Dumping the young for the old was definitely a dumb move but Caruso wasn't a role player?  You dismissed him altogether.  The guys you mention all played a part which is what the Lakers are totally missing right now I just happen to like Caruso the best, lol.

    I have faith though that the Knicks will want him there in NY and trade off their DP's.  Let me dream ok?

    A while ago I asked, begged, pleaded that the Lakers try and get Bradley Beal.  They did not.  They grabbed Westbrook instead...



    Caruso averaged about 6 PPG for LAL in his career.
    Kuzma averages almost 16PPG for his career (he's a lot more than a role player, he can be a #3 option on a contender), KCP is almost 12PPG and Harrell is 13PPG and a former sixth man of the year. Caruso is the 5th best player of those 4 guys.

    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Yep, Alex Caruso is the missing ingredient.

    Um, no. The problem was trading 3 solid contributing players (Kuzma, Caldwell-Pope and Harrell) plus their 1st round pick for Westbrook, a guy who can't shoot from outside. GM LeBron doesn't quite get the concept of floor spacing and the need for outside shooting the same way player Lebron does. Stupid trade. And they backed out of trading for Buddy Hield (who can shoot from outside) to grab Westbrook instead, and the Hield trade would have not cost the Caldwell-Pope or their first rounder, just Kuzma and Harrell.
    And let's not forget that while they now enter the lottery, their first round pick belongs to N'awlins (unless somehow it ends up being 11th or worse which now seem very unlikely, then it would convey to Memphis from N'awlins).

    Alex Caruso wasn't getting that dumpster fire anywhere further.
    Those 3 were role players, yes.

    Dumping the young for the old was definitely a dumb move but Caruso wasn't a role player?  You dismissed him altogether.  The guys you mention all played a part which is what the Lakers are totally missing right now I just happen to like Caruso the best, lol.

    I have faith though that the Knicks will want him there in NY and trade off their DP's.  Let me dream ok?

    A while ago I asked, begged, pleaded that the Lakers try and get Bradley Beal.  They did not.  They grabbed Westbrook instead...



    Caruso averaged about 6 PPG for LAL in his career.
    Kuzma averages almost 16PPG for his career (he's a lot more than a role player, he can be a #3 option on a contender), KCP is almost 12PPG and Harrell is 13PPG and a former sixth man of the year. Caruso is the 5th best player of those 4 guys.

    Again, it's the little things.  Sets a pick, defense, takes a charge.  There is more to basketball than scoring.  He was like a sparkplug when he entered games.

    Watching Kuzma he was streakish.  I never understood why people liked him so much.  I believe we have discussed this in the past too.  He showed promise at first but plateaued.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    Wrong post above, sorry..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    That was outrageous 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    I guess ABC picked the right game to showcase this weekend.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Kyrie flipping the bird, lol.

    Nets are going to win that series.  If KD and Curry shot better this game was done.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    That was outrageous 

    guessing you were talking about the Nets/Celtics game/ Yeah it was the best game over the weekend. With that being said, Go Sixers!
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  • Jumb0Jumb0 Posts: 910
    MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    Jumb0 said:
    MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
    BOSTON CELTICS!!
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    maybe ben can rescue the nets.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    Wobbie said:
    maybe ben can rescue the nets.
    Hahahaha..
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    23scidoo said:
    Wobbie said:
    maybe ben can rescue the nets.
    Hahahaha..
    ruled out for game 4 :lol:

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Kyrie flipping the bird, lol.

    Nets are going to win that series.  If KD and Curry shot better this game was done.
    .
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