GMO Animals for Food
bbiggs
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This company is very close to bringing its genetically modified salmon to market. FDA approved and will likely be ready by 2020. It claims to be paving the way for more genetically modified animals. When purchasing from the grocery store, consumers would have to scan the barcode with their phones to see the GMO label. Bon Appétit!
https://aquabounty.com/fast-growing-genetically-engineered-salmon/
https://aquabounty.com/fast-growing-genetically-engineered-salmon/
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I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.0 -
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.0 -
bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.anything thats been crossbred is GMO..... could have happened through branch splicing etc.... didnt have to originate in a lab. How do you think we get such a variety of apples as an example.what of your pets is you have them? any that are cross bred or are they pure bred. if you have a crossbreed, then thats gmo too.....Just saying._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I am on the fence when it comes to GMOs. Plants that are drought, insect, and disease tolerant are great things. Nature genetically modifies all living things (over a lot longer time span of course. As tempo said above, fish with no mercury is a good thing (if that is a proven result).
I can see that if they are modifying plants to consume more nutrients and water for higher output, that could put a strain on the environment. Same with animals, but anything is better than hormone injections in meat.
What are the main arguments against GMOs?
It almost seems like a topic for the “outrage culture” thread.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Yup. I have also read that GMO crops need less pesticides and farmers get more crop per acre...mickeyrat said:bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.anything thats been crossbred is GMO..... could have happened through branch splicing etc.... didnt have to originate in a lab. How do you think we get such a variety of apples as an example.what of your pets is you have them? any that are cross bred or are they pure bred. if you have a crossbreed, then thats gmo too.....Just saying.
of all the shit that could kill us food is the least of my concern...
however i I will never eat meat grown in a lab or that fake meat shit...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
I’m not sure you’re correct that GMO fish won’t have any mercury in it. The growth promoting genes are the only difference; otherwise, they will be fed the same food as any other farmer salmon. Farmed salmon already has lower levels of mercury than wild salmon, but salmon in general doesn’t have very high mercury levels compared to fish like tuna and swordfish.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Eat vegetarian. Let the fish live and be GMO free. Win-win"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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unless all that vegetarian food was hand reaped or picked, its more than probable some animals lost their lives in the harvest. just killed and left in the field or potentially mixed in with your grains and whatnot......PJPOWER said:
No.Spiritual_Chaos said:Eat vegetarian. Let the fish live and be GMO free. Win-win
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Right you are. I’ve plowed many of fields and can attest to your assertion, unfortunately.mickeyrat said:
unless all that vegetarian food was hand reaped or picked, its more than probable some animals lost their lives in the harvest. just killed and left in the field or potentially mixed in with your grains and whatnot......PJPOWER said:
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Good points. Cross breeds that have happened naturally over time are one thing. Cross breeds that man has forced, especially when it comes to our food, is another in my opinion. Maybe it will be proven to be completely harmless over time, but I don’t want to be the guinea pig.mickeyrat said:bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.anything thats been crossbred is GMO..... could have happened through branch splicing etc.... didnt have to originate in a lab. How do you think we get such a variety of apples as an example.what of your pets is you have them? any that are cross bred or are they pure bred. if you have a crossbreed, then thats gmo too.....Just saying.0 -
Mercury is in the water and the food they eat.oftenreading said:
I’m not sure you’re correct that GMO fish won’t have any mercury in it. The growth promoting genes are the only difference; otherwise, they will be fed the same food as any other farmer salmon. Farmed salmon already has lower levels of mercury than wild salmon, but salmon in general doesn’t have very high mercury levels compared to fish like tuna and swordfish.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.
Swordfish and Tuna live longer than a salmon so they have more mercury in them.
An Albacore has very little mercury compared to a bluefin.
Every fish has a trace of Mercury in them now, every single one.
Also if the fish farms are near the ocean they can still get Mercury, so you are right about that.0 -
Oh man, that is disturbing!bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
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Mickey, there's a difference between cross-breeding and lab style Frankenscience.mickeyrat said:bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.anything thats been crossbred is GMO..... could have happened through branch splicing etc.... didnt have to originate in a lab. How do you think we get such a variety of apples as an example.what of your pets is you have them? any that are cross bred or are they pure bred. if you have a crossbreed, then thats gmo too.....Just saying.
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The food that farmed fish are fed is made from ocean going “trash” fish, hence has mercury in it, which is the source, not the water that they are grown in per se. Any farmed salmon will have less mercury than wild salmon; it isn’t specific to these faster growing fish.tempo_n_groove said:
Mercury is in the water and the food they eat.oftenreading said:
I’m not sure you’re correct that GMO fish won’t have any mercury in it. The growth promoting genes are the only difference; otherwise, they will be fed the same food as any other farmer salmon. Farmed salmon already has lower levels of mercury than wild salmon, but salmon in general doesn’t have very high mercury levels compared to fish like tuna and swordfish.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.
Swordfish and Tuna live longer than a salmon so they have more mercury in them.
An Albacore has very little mercury compared to a bluefin.
Every fish has a trace of Mercury in them now, every single one.
Also if the fish farms are near the ocean they can still get Mercury, so you are right about that.
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oftenreading said:
The food that farmed fish are fed is made from ocean going “trash” fish, hence has mercury in it, which is the source, not the water that they are grown in per se. Any farmed salmon will have less mercury than wild salmon; it isn’t specific to these faster growing fish.tempo_n_groove said:
Mercury is in the water and the food they eat.oftenreading said:
I’m not sure you’re correct that GMO fish won’t have any mercury in it. The growth promoting genes are the only difference; otherwise, they will be fed the same food as any other farmer salmon. Farmed salmon already has lower levels of mercury than wild salmon, but salmon in general doesn’t have very high mercury levels compared to fish like tuna and swordfish.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.
Swordfish and Tuna live longer than a salmon so they have more mercury in them.
An Albacore has very little mercury compared to a bluefin.
Every fish has a trace of Mercury in them now, every single one.
Also if the fish farms are near the ocean they can still get Mercury, so you are right about that.
Farmed fish-- bad news!
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That’s a 2013 article, Brian, and much of it isn’t true. Some of it wasn’t true then, and more of it isn’t true now.brianlux said:oftenreading said:
The food that farmed fish are fed is made from ocean going “trash” fish, hence has mercury in it, which is the source, not the water that they are grown in per se. Any farmed salmon will have less mercury than wild salmon; it isn’t specific to these faster growing fish.tempo_n_groove said:
Mercury is in the water and the food they eat.oftenreading said:
I’m not sure you’re correct that GMO fish won’t have any mercury in it. The growth promoting genes are the only difference; otherwise, they will be fed the same food as any other farmer salmon. Farmed salmon already has lower levels of mercury than wild salmon, but salmon in general doesn’t have very high mercury levels compared to fish like tuna and swordfish.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.
Swordfish and Tuna live longer than a salmon so they have more mercury in them.
An Albacore has very little mercury compared to a bluefin.
Every fish has a trace of Mercury in them now, every single one.
Also if the fish farms are near the ocean they can still get Mercury, so you are right about that.
Farmed fish-- bad news!my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Others on here know more about this than me, and it’s been discussed before, but it’s my understanding that it isn’t the plants themselves that are killing bees, but rather the pesticides that are used on the plants.tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure how this happened but California actually voted "NO" on GMO labeling a few years ago? How that happened is interesting to me.bbiggs said:
I agree, Brian. I want nothing to do with anything GMO and I avoid it at all costs. The problem is the ambiguous (or hidden) labeling that was described in the news special I watched. Also, as GMO salmon (and likely other animals) eventually hits the market, it’s likely that it will be sold to restaurants that will not be willing or able to differentiate between wild or GMO. Can’t we just get real food, not made in a lab?brianlux said:I won't get near the stuff, not one penny's worth.I think we'd better start making some GMO Soylent Green before the whole planet becomes one massive GMO.
I am actually leaning towards the GMO fish and here is why. It won't have any Mercury in it.
The GMO fruits and veggies is another story. Depending on what they do to it. If they have strains of plants that are killing bees then it's a no go for me. Basically if Monsanto has anything to do with it too.
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I’m curious to see if the regulators allow these salmon to be grown in ocean net pens, or if they insist on land based closed containment. If closed containment, they’re probably doomed economically, but it may be that the quicker growth is enough of an advantage that they overcome the costs of CC.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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