Face Recognition

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

China is using it and it's scary

I wouldn’t step foot in China...

Speaking of that:
 
”The Czech branch of the Chinese company Huawei is suspected of collecting sensitive data on officials and businessmen through its employees. This material is allegedly gathered during business meetings and subsequently entered into a central database to which the company’s headquarters in China have access. Czech Radio’s investigative team at Radiožurnál broke the story, citing former Huawei employees and Czech intelligence sources.”

Im a little concerned. I was staying in Prague and there was. Huawei “safety conference” in my hotel.

Staying in prague Steele Dossier-style?

hedonist

As mentioned earlier, cameras are all over - plus cell phones.  And I just saw a commercial for a phone with that recognition feature.

Say hello to the future!

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Here are two solutions:

1.  Find a double, blame any infractions on him or her.  Here is my double.  A friend of mine saw this photo in  a yoga book.  This person looks almost exactly like I did about 20 years ago:

2.  A good disguise is another choice:

There were two gang-members here in Gothenburg who were twins. So, the cops could never ID who of them actually had done specific crimes.

Then I think one of them was shot dead in his car. Made it easier.

Who shot the dude.  The police?  Just saying it seems like the would have good motive? /s

Quick question:  I notice this at the end of various threads,  "/s"  What is that?

sarcasm/sarcastic

EDIT:

Indicates the presence of sarcasm.

Man, I wish George Bush could take another 4 years, especially after his work ontorture- who'd have thought such a fair and moral decision could have been made? 

/s

Ah, I see.  Thank you!

brianlux

Hi! said:

I didn't know it was possible to have an older identical twin, LOL!

cincybearcat

hedonist said:

As mentioned earlier, cameras are all over - plus cell phones.  And I just saw a commercial for a phone with that recognition feature.

Say hello to the future!

Phones have had it for awhile. 

brianlux

cincybearcat said:

hedonist said:

As mentioned earlier, cameras are all over - plus cell phones.  And I just saw a commercial for a phone with that recognition feature.

Say hello to the future!

Phones have had it for awhile. 

Yeah, I think even my flip phone does.  One of these days I'll try to figure out how to use it.

Hi!

brianlux said:

Hi! said:

I didn't know it was possible to have an older identical twin, LOL!

My poor Mom, she was in labor for 30 years.

brianlux

Hi! said:

brianlux said:

Hi! said:

I didn't know it was possible to have an older identical twin, LOL!

My poor Mom, she was in labor for 30 years.

Thoughts_Arrive

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

China is using it and it's scary

I wouldn’t step foot in China...

Same here. I've already spoken against their regime on Facebook so they'd arrest me if I did go there.

tempo_n_groove

Hi! said:

Freddie P?

Hi!

🤔

tempo_n_groove

Hi! said:

🤔

So you aren't Freddie P?

Hi!

tempo_n_groove said:

Hi! said:

🤔

So you aren't Freddie P?

Maybe on a billboard in Russia.

benjs

tempo_n_groove said:

Face Recognition.

It scares the hell out of me.  I'm actually thinking about starting a campaign to outlaw it.  

There is something to be said when there are cameras everywhere to watch your every move.  The more cameras we have the less cops we would need though, that much I get.

I wonder if in the future we would end up like the movie "Demolition Man" and have docile cops?

So facial recognition to me, is something that can be used for more harm than good. This might be the conspiracy theorist in my head talking but I just can't see this being a good thing in the long run.

On a good note, Amazon flopped on their test run.  So maybe there is still hope?

Thoughts?

This could be a good segue into the "Is Tech taking over our lives" thread.

https://gizmodo.com/test-of-amazons-face-recognition-by-orlando-cops-ends-a-1836533927

Adding to this is the fact that faces are the new fingerprints (which were the new passwords). While with fingerprints one would have to hover their finger over a sensor to capture a graphic of it to steal an identity, phones today effortlessly and invisibly capture a 3D map of your face that could (in the wrong hands) be used as a log-in to anything imaginable. 

Add to this the fact that you really don't need to be all that clever to build AI tools to do this kind of nefarious act. AI has embraced open-source, and there are plenty of walkthroughs on training facial recognition models.

You're right to be scared. 

mickeyrat

thought we had an AI thread but this works here too.....

https://www.ted.com/talks/supasorn_suwajanakorn_fake_videos_of_real_people_and_how_to_spot_them?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare

PJ_Soul

Yeah, I don't like face recognition that gets shared. I don't mind that my own phone uses it for security, but beyond that, no thanks. I will avoid it whenever possible. I am DYING to see my self as an old woman, lol, but I can't take the chance. I also saw another thing I really really didn't like the other day. At my local Walmart they tore out all the cashier stations and replaced them with self-checkout. That is bad enough. Now they they are down to maybe 5 actual human cashier stands, and the rest is all self-serve. But anyway, that's not the worst of it. What really bugged me even more is that they have these fucking screens over each self-service checkout station that films your face (and body) the entire time you're standing there scanning your stuff, and it says right on it that they're saving the recordings. This isn't face recognition in and of itself, but it will certainly serve the growth of the use of face recognition going forward. I had such a problem with this set up that I mentioned it to their customer service people, as a customer complaint. Not that it will help, obviously.

hedonist

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, I don't like face recognition that gets shared. I don't mind that my own phone uses it for security, but beyond that, no thanks. I will avoid it whenever possible. I am DYING to see my self as an old woman, lol, but I can't take the chance. I also saw another thing I really really didn't like the other day. At my local Walmart they tore out all the cashier stations and replaced them with self-checkout. That is bad enough. Now they they are down to maybe 5 actual human cashier stands, and the rest is all self-serve. But anyway, that's not the worst of it. What really bugged me even more is that they have these fucking screens over each self-service checkout station that films your face (and body) the entire time you're standing there scanning your stuff, and it says right on it that they're saving the recordings. This isn't face recognition in and of itself, but it will certainly serve the growth of the use of face recognition going forward. I had such a problem with this set up that I mentioned it to their customer service people, as a customer complaint. Not that it will help, obviously.

But don't most stores - large and small - already have cameras within and outside their premises?  Not to mention gas stations, ATM's, high-accident areas, etc.  I'm not sure how it is in Vancouver, but they're all over the place here.

That said, I fucking detest the self-serve things.  Get the odd item that can't be scanned and have to wait for someone.  Or, there's almost always a glitch of some type.

And while we're at it, enforce the express lane rule, goddammit!

mickeyrat

wait. walmart has more than 3 lanes open, ever?

PJ_Soul

hedonist said:

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, I don't like face recognition that gets shared. I don't mind that my own phone uses it for security, but beyond that, no thanks. I will avoid it whenever possible. I am DYING to see my self as an old woman, lol, but I can't take the chance. I also saw another thing I really really didn't like the other day. At my local Walmart they tore out all the cashier stations and replaced them with self-checkout. That is bad enough. Now they they are down to maybe 5 actual human cashier stands, and the rest is all self-serve. But anyway, that's not the worst of it. What really bugged me even more is that they have these fucking screens over each self-service checkout station that films your face (and body) the entire time you're standing there scanning your stuff, and it says right on it that they're saving the recordings. This isn't face recognition in and of itself, but it will certainly serve the growth of the use of face recognition going forward. I had such a problem with this set up that I mentioned it to their customer service people, as a customer complaint. Not that it will help, obviously.

But don't most stores - large and small - already have cameras within and outside their premises?  Not to mention gas stations, ATM's, high-accident areas, etc.  I'm not sure how it is in Vancouver, but they're all over the place here.

That said, I fucking detest the self-serve things.  Get the odd item that can't be scanned and have to wait for someone.  Or, there's almost always a glitch of some type.

And while we're at it, enforce the express lane rule, goddammit!

Not with close up video, and not directly connected to literally every item you buy, not to mention the actual pay station itself. They could easily link our card info with our face with this kind of set up.

Spiritual_Chaos

Why would walmart film people paying for stuff?