PJ Song of the Week Analysis: Brain of JFK

2

Comments

  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    "and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go... "



    ARE WE SURE ITS NOT...

    and MY name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go...?
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Every site I've checked says "By". However, you can't place a whole lot of stock in internet website lyric sites.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • likepilateihaveadog
    likepilateihaveadog Posts: 1,083
    ahem...I was talking about my in post # 15.
    Regardless, after listening to the early version again, I think it's realted to the whole Single Bullet Theory
    the inspiration for SVT's title.
    This site is gross, so be careful, but it's got all the medical theories about JFK's death.
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/medical.htm

    Again, the conspiracy theory is that someone stole JFK's brain hoping to hook it up to a computer and save the world.

    That site said the brain is missing because he got shot from the front from the gunman on the grassy knoll, and it's a government cover up.

    The whole thing why Jack Ruby killed Oswald is kind of the kicker here. If we had any explanation on that, it would make this a lot more clear. I think Ruby died in prison not long after, so we'll never know, probably.

    Maybe some intelligent can unwrap all this in terms of the song.

    But to me, it's who's got his brain and why? Is it for some noble reason? Saving the world with a computer JFK brain?

    Or the dark side of government coverup and lies?
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    I think the JFK reference is a superficial theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I think the JFK reference is a superficially theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    Not really thread related...but,
    They dropped his body in the Atlantic Ocean? WTF?
    thanks for the read.....
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • likepilateihaveadog
    likepilateihaveadog Posts: 1,083
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I think the JFK reference is a superficial theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    OK, yeah. I can see that angle too. That's a little more Yield-like.
    I'm just pushing the Kennedy thing for sake of discussion.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    likepilateihaveadog wrote:
    OK, yeah. I can see that angle too. That's a little more Yield-like.
    I'm just pushing the Kennedy thing for sake of discussion.

    Agreed.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    Brain Of J rocks...

    first four songs for the abbreviated by rain set in KC, 2003..

    Release
    Breakerfall
    Brain Of J
    Get Right

    As always, McCready was SMOKIN'
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    Yielding before the crossroad where desicisons are made, the need to stop and think, so you dont take a wrong turn or get blindsided. Maybe Brain of J is Ed's way of intoducing the albums theme.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    Yielding before the crossroad where desicisons are made, the need to stop and think, so you dont take a wrong turn or get blindsided.

    Exactly. Once again I think it reflects change whether socially (as in my JFK/ 60's analysis) or personally or both. In the past, there would have been no Yielding - only pushing ahead on a course deviating for nothing and considering no alternative. However, with time and age also comes wisdom so one learns that change can be good and that change does not necessarily mean compromising what you really are or what you stand for. In the historical context, you can yield to new ideas without becoming communist or whatever people were scared of in the 60's. In the personal context, it means you can give a little, still be you and change at the same time.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Riverrunner wrote:
    In the historical context, you can yield to new ideas without becoming communist or whatever people were scared of in the 60's. In the personal context, it means you can give a little, still be you and change at the same time.

    Embracing new ideas and realizing that the current way of life isn't the only way.

    For example (and I don't want to start a serious conflict debate): We, as humans, can survive without certain luxuries, but we continue to use and waste things. Primarily, because we think we're the end-all and we can do as we please.

    Ishmael really had a profound impact on me...sorry

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Embracing new ideas and realizing that the current way of life isn't the only way.

    For example (and I don't want to start a serious conflict debate): We, as humans, can survive without certain luxuries, but we continue to use and waste things. Primarily, because we think we're the end-all and we can do as we please.

    Ishmael really had a profound impact on me...sorry

    PBM
    PMB, dont worry. This isnt the Moving Train.....:)
    I gotta read this book. You reference it often and it sounds like it has a large part in the mood of Yield.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Ishmael really had a profound impact on me...sorry

    PBM


    I loved Ishmael. It reinforced what I already thought, but it was nice to get reinforcement.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    PMB, dont worry. This isnt the Moving Train.....:)
    I gotta read this book. You reference it often and it sounds like it has a large part in the mood of Yield.


    Read it! It is great. I loaned my copy to a friend and never got it back. I think I will have to buy it again.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    what is it? MY NAME IS ISHMAEL or just ISHMAEL?
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Riverrunner, I think I believed everything in the book before I read it, it just help cement certain beliefs.

    There are three by Quinn worth checking out (although I've only read 1 and part of a second):

    Ishmael
    My Ishmael
    Story of B

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • likepilateihaveadog
    likepilateihaveadog Posts: 1,083
    Quinn also has a book called After Dachau which is sick and disturbing, but very interesting. Not like Ishmael at all.

    Speaking of Yield literature...Bukowski is also someone to read.
    As is The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov.

    All these belong to the great Yield literary tradition.

    In fact, I wrote an article about it, supposedly appearing on Two Feet Thick in the near future.

    Back to Brain of J.
    So we're convinved this is an intro to the theme of the record and not just an outlier or something that got placed up front becuase it rawks?
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    Who got next? PBM? Riverrunner? Pilate? anyone...???
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • darthvedder88
    darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STARTING THIS THREAD!! I've been totally into this song OMG!!! Amazing...
    "Darth Vader would say 'Impressive'."

    -Eddie Vedder

    6/24/06 Cincinatti, Ohio
    6/14/08 Manchester, Tennessee
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    Who got next? PBM? Riverrunner? Pilate? anyone...???

    Who ever gets here first on Monday...go for it.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org

Categories