PJ Song of the Week Analysis: Brain of JFK

RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
Here it is! The newly relocated lyric analysis thread.

Brain Of JFK

oh who's got the brain of J.F.K.?
pull it off and on
oh jackie o, how we feel for you now
the whole world will be different then
go to hell if you don't believe it
oh monkey see, monkey do, play the fucking fool
oh give it all, give it back to me now
the whole world will be different then
go to hell if you don't believe it
i get high, then you take from me, so difference aside...
the whole world will be different then
go to hell if you don't believe it
the whole world will be fucking different then
go to fucking hell if you don't believe it...
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
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  • The old school version...nice.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    The old school version...nice.

    PBM

    The only version listed in SKIS.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • The other lyrics...

    who's got the brain of jfk
    what's it mean to us now, yeah
    oh, it's sound insurance
    but i can tell you, this is no lie
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    you, you've been taught
    whipped into shape
    now they got you in line
    stand behind the stripes
    there will be order,
    so give up your mind, yeah

    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go...
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved


    I heard something about his brain being gone when the body was returned after autopsy and wasnt an autoposy of the brain itself not done by the Federal govt?
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    The other lyrics...

    who's got the brain of jfk
    what's it mean to us now, yeah
    oh, it's sound insurance
    but i can tell you, this is no lie
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    you, you've been taught
    whipped into shape
    now they got you in line
    stand behind the stripes
    there will be order,
    so give up your mind, yeah

    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go...
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved


    I heard something about his brain being gone when the body was returned after autopsy and wasnt an autoposy of the brain itself not done by the Federal govt?

    Hmmm, thanks, I've always been puzzled by this song
  • I found this tidbit when searching the web (slow day at work).

    Ed's Quote
    Excerpt from an article titled "Vedder's word associations" from the Seattle Times:

    'We asked Eddie Vedder to play word association with
    the titles; his answers follow the song titles.

    "Brain of J": Conspiracy theories '
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • This song rocks.

    It's totally about conspiracies and I was a big JFK buff thanks to the movie back in 94. Some of it was total BS, other parts were very eye opening.

    Any song on YIELD should be praised by all. Carry on...
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • you, you've been taught
    whipped into shape
    now they got you in line
    stand behind the stripes
    there will be order,
    so give up your mind, yeah

    Very important lyrics here. Do you believe everything you're told or do you question it. I love the phrasing

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Thanks Flannel Shirt for correcting my screw up. I was in too much of a hurry this morning when I posted the lyrics. I looked directly at "Brain of JFK" on SKIS and not right above it for "Brain of J". As a result I posted the 1995 improvs (of which I was totally unaware prior to this). I was in a hury and paid absolutly no attention to what was written. Anyway, thanks for posting the REAL lyrics.

    By the way, what is the story behind the 1995 improvs? After looking at the lyrics I had originally posted from the improvs, it looked interesting.

    As to Brain of J lyrics, I've never quite been sure. Will give it some thought, but I am interested on what everyone else's take on this is. I thought I had pretty much dissected Yield until I thought about this one over the weekend.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • Thanks Flannel Shirt for correcting my screw up. I was in too much of a hurry this morning when I posted the lyrics. I looked directly at "Brain of JFK" on SKIS and not right above it for "Brain of J". As a result I posted the 1995 improvs (of which I was totally unaware prior to this). I was in a hury and paid absolutly no attention to what was written. Anyway, thanks for posting the REAL lyrics.

    By the way, what is the story behind the 1995 improvs? After looking at the lyrics I had originally posted from the improvs, it looked interesting.

    As to Brain of J lyrics, I've never quite been sure. Will give it some thought, but I am interested on what everyone else's take on this is. I thought I had pretty much dissected Yield until I thought about this one over the weekend.
    No prob. Two is better than one.....usually. ;)
    Great choice.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Yeah, for me, Yield is a great album of questioning everything...how things came to be, both in the broader scale and in a much more personal way too.
    So, maybe this was the origin for one of the guys, when they were younger, or when the movie came out...
    and saying, wait? So something isn't as it seems?
    There's something wrong here.

    So, as a good intro and opener into this type of thinking.
    Plus they were going to take the brain of JFK and put it in a jar and hook it up to a computer and run the country from that. You know, computers were just taking off, we weren't aware of any capabilities at that point really, infinite horizons...that's a part too.

    Good song choice, guys.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • Likepilot...long time no "talk" to...

    I agree. Yield to me is a very introspective album. A lot about self. A lot about being alone and thinking about things. Questioning things...not taking them for what they appear to be.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Yeah, good to be back.
    I think the whole world will be different then, go to hell if you don't believe it comes from this Vietnam age, where Johnson kind of fucked up and got sucked in. At a point, he hated what he had done, but knew he couldn't just leave. (Sound familiar?)
    I think there was a front (my parents/grandparents) that felt, had Kennedy lived, everything would have been OK, the mess never would have happened. Thus the brain thing...with JFK's brain, the whole world...

    Then again, we never would have had "Ohio" and "for what it's worth," and no Neil and no classic rock and then no PJ.

    So, I guess in a way, it was a good thing...
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • Cool thread!

    I love Brain of J, also nice to see these improv things, no idea they existed!!! Great song from a GREAT album.
    Too many cowboys, not enough indians, so just go ape shit!

    I may be boring but at least I'm not Jack fucking Johnson.

    TV is such shit; let's go outside and ride bicycles, right now!

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  • and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go...

    other than what PBM mentioned and the chorus, this is all that stands out to me as strange.
    I always heard "and myname"
    I always figured it was the Kennedy curse thing...
    the name I'm letting go.
    But maybe by dying tragically, he's grasping the name even tighter.
    I could be convined of a bunch of things here.
    Any ideas?
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • Good theory. It's actually such a powerful song, isn't it. Like a call to arms for the American people, I always felt.

    That whole 'the world will be different soon'. It's a challenge, I feel. Ed is asking people if the world will change, and if so, will we make it change for the better, as JFK tried to do?
    Too many cowboys, not enough indians, so just go ape shit!

    I may be boring but at least I'm not Jack fucking Johnson.

    TV is such shit; let's go outside and ride bicycles, right now!

    Madrid 07/09/06 - Little mofo'ing Wing!!!
    Wembley 06/18/07 - Speechless

    www.last.fm/user/StNick_
  • Merkyjamm wrote:
    That whole 'the world will be different soon'. It's a challenge, I feel. Ed is asking people if the world will change, and if so, will we make it change for the better, as JFK tried to do?

    That's a little less conspiracy theory but I like that too. I could see that. Makes good, clean sense.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    I think this song can be interpreted many different ways because it is so vague. But how is that different from most other PJ songs, right? Anyway, here is my take:

    "who's got the brain of jfk
    what's it mean to us now, yeah
    oh, it's sound insurance "

    A reference to JFK's legacy. Even though JFK is dead the things he accomplished, and what he stands for is still here and is "insurance" for a better tomorrow.

    "but i can tell you, this is no lie
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved "

    Once again a reference to JFK legacy and that things will continue to change because of what he did and what he stood for.

    "you, you've been taught
    whipped into shape
    now they got you in line
    stand behind the stripes
    there will be order,
    so give up your mind, yeah"

    In the past being patriotic meant never questioning, never having an original (or rebellious thought). But things are different after JFK. Now being patriotic can mean something else. Sort of a 60's reference to the anti-war movement of the 60's and the hippie era.

    "and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go... "

    I don't know.


    Overall, I think this is a tribute to JFK and the change he made to the mindset of this country. It is also a tribute to the 60's and the rebelliousness of that era.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • I think this song can be interpreted many different ways because it is so vague. But how is that different from most other PJ songs, right? Anyway, here is my take:

    "who's got the brain of jfk
    what's it mean to us now, yeah
    oh, it's sound insurance "

    A reference to JFK's legacy. Even though JFK is dead the things he accomplished, and what he stands for is still here and is "insurance" for a better tomorrow.

    "but i can tell you, this is no lie
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved
    the whole world will be different soon
    the whole world will be relieved "

    Once again a reference to JFK legacy and that things will continue to change because of what he did and what he stood for.

    "you, you've been taught
    whipped into shape
    now they got you in line
    stand behind the stripes
    there will be order,
    so give up your mind, yeah"

    In the past being patriotic meant never questioning, never having an original (or rebellious thought). But things are different after JFK. Now being patriotic can mean something else. Sort of a 60's reference to the anti-war movement of the 60's and the hippie era.

    "and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go... "

    I don't know.


    Overall, I think this is a tribute to JFK and the change he made to the mindset of this country. It is also a tribute to the 60's and the rebelliousness of that era.

    This is more or less how I always interpreted this song. It seems to have a new relevance to the current state of the world now that it didn't have so much when it was written.

    'The whole world will be different soon.
    The whole world will be relieved'

    That sounds almost like a Bush speech. There's certainly a lot of tension in the world today, and a lot of groups who would love to see the world changed, whether that means to widespread democracy, or Islamic theocracy, or whatever.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • "and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go... "

    The identity that defines a person. By questioning, this person outlines a new identity for themself.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    The identity that defines a person. By questioning, this person outlines a new identity for themself.

    PBM


    Good thought. I like that interpretation. In other words, "breaking tradition." When a person is young their family pretty well creates the identity. Many people stay in the identity, but some don't - as PBM says, "some question." They break free of tradition and accepted principles and develop their own ideas, which creates their new identity. Another reference to the 60's era and the era of JFK - a time of change.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • "and by name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go... "



    ARE WE SURE ITS NOT...

    and MY name
    the name they gave me
    the name i'm letting go...?
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Every site I've checked says "By". However, you can't place a whole lot of stock in internet website lyric sites.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • ahem...I was talking about my in post # 15.
    Regardless, after listening to the early version again, I think it's realted to the whole Single Bullet Theory
    the inspiration for SVT's title.
    This site is gross, so be careful, but it's got all the medical theories about JFK's death.
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/medical.htm

    Again, the conspiracy theory is that someone stole JFK's brain hoping to hook it up to a computer and save the world.

    That site said the brain is missing because he got shot from the front from the gunman on the grassy knoll, and it's a government cover up.

    The whole thing why Jack Ruby killed Oswald is kind of the kicker here. If we had any explanation on that, it would make this a lot more clear. I think Ruby died in prison not long after, so we'll never know, probably.

    Maybe some intelligent can unwrap all this in terms of the song.

    But to me, it's who's got his brain and why? Is it for some noble reason? Saving the world with a computer JFK brain?

    Or the dark side of government coverup and lies?
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  • I think the JFK reference is a superficial theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • I think the JFK reference is a superficially theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    Not really thread related...but,
    They dropped his body in the Atlantic Ocean? WTF?
    thanks for the read.....
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • I think the JFK reference is a superficial theme to draw in the listener and help point out how something can have control over a person.

    PBM
    OK, yeah. I can see that angle too. That's a little more Yield-like.
    I'm just pushing the Kennedy thing for sake of discussion.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • OK, yeah. I can see that angle too. That's a little more Yield-like.
    I'm just pushing the Kennedy thing for sake of discussion.

    Agreed.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • oldermanolderman Posts: 1,765
    Brain Of J rocks...

    first four songs for the abbreviated by rain set in KC, 2003..

    Release
    Breakerfall
    Brain Of J
    Get Right

    As always, McCready was SMOKIN'
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • Yielding before the crossroad where desicisons are made, the need to stop and think, so you dont take a wrong turn or get blindsided. Maybe Brain of J is Ed's way of intoducing the albums theme.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Yielding before the crossroad where desicisons are made, the need to stop and think, so you dont take a wrong turn or get blindsided.

    Exactly. Once again I think it reflects change whether socially (as in my JFK/ 60's analysis) or personally or both. In the past, there would have been no Yielding - only pushing ahead on a course deviating for nothing and considering no alternative. However, with time and age also comes wisdom so one learns that change can be good and that change does not necessarily mean compromising what you really are or what you stand for. In the historical context, you can yield to new ideas without becoming communist or whatever people were scared of in the 60's. In the personal context, it means you can give a little, still be you and change at the same time.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
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