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abulrabulr Posts: 80
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Apologies if this was answered before but I didn't find anything searching for it.
I finally have some space to have a turntable again after many years and it came yesterday - very excited.
So the question is, are Pearl Jam vinyl reissues simply digital masters pressed onto Vinyl format? (If so, will just stick to CD I guess, don't really see the need to go out and buy more Vinyl - unless someone wants to convince me otherwise, I'm all ears... and no, can't be just about seeing the black circle spin... I'm talking differences one can hear).

Is there an audiophile preference for certain pressings/masterings over others?

Thanks in advance!
9/95 N.O. ; 9/96 Randall's 1&2 ; 9/98 Continental ; 9/98 - MSG 1 & 2 ; 5/00 - Wembley ; 8/00 - Jones Beach 1,2&3 ; 7/03 - MSG 1&2 ; 5/06 - Irving Plaza ; 6/06 - Continental 1&2 ; 6/08 - MSG 1&2 ; 6/08 - Beacon ; 10/09 - Spectrum 2&3 ; 05/10 - Prudential ; 05/10 - MSG 1&2; 10/13 - Barclays 1&2 ; 10/14 Memphis ; 9/15 Central Park; 4/16 Philly 2; 5/16 MSG 1&2; 5/16 QC; 8/16 Boston; 8/16 Chicago 1&2; 8/18 Seattle 1&2; 8/18 Boston
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  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I think you will want to find the first 3 original releases - everything else should be good - PS I have all of the originals plus bought the Yield and No Code reissues 
  • abulrabulr Posts: 80
    edited April 2019
    buck502000 said:
    I think you will want to find the first 3 original releases - everything else should be good - PS I have all of the originals plus bought the Yield and No Code reissues 
    first three meaning ten, vs, vitalogy?
    i remember vs and yield, i'm pretty sure i have those originals, 
    ten only remaster,
    and yield and no code - only the reissues - so on that note, do you like the reissues better on those two or the originals?
    Post edited by abulr on
    9/95 N.O. ; 9/96 Randall's 1&2 ; 9/98 Continental ; 9/98 - MSG 1 & 2 ; 5/00 - Wembley ; 8/00 - Jones Beach 1,2&3 ; 7/03 - MSG 1&2 ; 5/06 - Irving Plaza ; 6/06 - Continental 1&2 ; 6/08 - MSG 1&2 ; 6/08 - Beacon ; 10/09 - Spectrum 2&3 ; 05/10 - Prudential ; 05/10 - MSG 1&2; 10/13 - Barclays 1&2 ; 10/14 Memphis ; 9/15 Central Park; 4/16 Philly 2; 5/16 MSG 1&2; 5/16 QC; 8/16 Boston; 8/16 Chicago 1&2; 8/18 Seattle 1&2; 8/18 Boston
  • abulrabulr Posts: 80
    to add to that, in general i have no interest in reissues where everything is turned "up to 11" and overcompressed... if you lose the instruments or the musical feel, it's not an improvement if it's just louder...

    if new vinyl is pressed off digital masters then why not just stick to your CD?
    9/95 N.O. ; 9/96 Randall's 1&2 ; 9/98 Continental ; 9/98 - MSG 1 & 2 ; 5/00 - Wembley ; 8/00 - Jones Beach 1,2&3 ; 7/03 - MSG 1&2 ; 5/06 - Irving Plaza ; 6/06 - Continental 1&2 ; 6/08 - MSG 1&2 ; 6/08 - Beacon ; 10/09 - Spectrum 2&3 ; 05/10 - Prudential ; 05/10 - MSG 1&2; 10/13 - Barclays 1&2 ; 10/14 Memphis ; 9/15 Central Park; 4/16 Philly 2; 5/16 MSG 1&2; 5/16 QC; 8/16 Boston; 8/16 Chicago 1&2; 8/18 Seattle 1&2; 8/18 Boston
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    abulr said:
    buck502000 said:
    I think you will want to find the first 3 original releases - everything else should be good - PS I have all of the originals plus bought the Yield and No Code reissues 
    first three meaning ten, vs, yield?
    i remember vs and yield, i'm pretty sure i have those originals, 
    ten only remaster,
    and yield and no code - only the reissues - so on that note, do you like the reissues better on those two or the originals?
    Ten - VS. - Vitalogy
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    abulr said:
    to add to that, in general i have no interest in reissues where everything is turned "up to 11" and overcompressed... if you lose the instruments or the musical feel, it's not an improvement if it's just louder...

    if new vinyl is pressed off digital masters then why not just stick to your CD?
    it's fun to get them all - and now they are affordable....
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    Maybe it's just me, but I think the reissues sound great.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    I don't think that a single Pearl Jam album was recorded in analog. I could be wrong about that, though.

    Having said that, the OG No Code and Riot Act both sound pretty good; the rest are fair to middling.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,200
    I think everything up to Binaural was analog. Maybe even Riot Act.

  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    I know for a fact Ten was recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digitally. Just looked at the CD today. SPARS code is AAD. 
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  • abulrabulr Posts: 80
    buck502000 said:
    abulr said:
    buck502000 said:
    I think you will want to find the first 3 original releases - everything else should be good - PS I have all of the originals plus bought the Yield and No Code reissues 
    first three meaning ten, vs, yield?
    i remember vs and yield, i'm pretty sure i have those originals, 
    ten only remaster,
    and yield and no code - only the reissues - so on that note, do you like the reissues better on those two or the originals?
    Ten - VS. - Vitalogy
    yeah sorry, brain thought one thing but hand typed another... ha
    9/95 N.O. ; 9/96 Randall's 1&2 ; 9/98 Continental ; 9/98 - MSG 1 & 2 ; 5/00 - Wembley ; 8/00 - Jones Beach 1,2&3 ; 7/03 - MSG 1&2 ; 5/06 - Irving Plaza ; 6/06 - Continental 1&2 ; 6/08 - MSG 1&2 ; 6/08 - Beacon ; 10/09 - Spectrum 2&3 ; 05/10 - Prudential ; 05/10 - MSG 1&2; 10/13 - Barclays 1&2 ; 10/14 Memphis ; 9/15 Central Park; 4/16 Philly 2; 5/16 MSG 1&2; 5/16 QC; 8/16 Boston; 8/16 Chicago 1&2; 8/18 Seattle 1&2; 8/18 Boston
  • abulrabulr Posts: 80
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I know for a fact Ten was recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digitally. Just looked at the CD today. SPARS code is AAD. 
    that maybe the case... doesn't mean that said Analog master was used for pressing the Vinyl (I know this sounds stupid but has been done - people have used Digital Master to press Vinyl!)
    9/95 N.O. ; 9/96 Randall's 1&2 ; 9/98 Continental ; 9/98 - MSG 1 & 2 ; 5/00 - Wembley ; 8/00 - Jones Beach 1,2&3 ; 7/03 - MSG 1&2 ; 5/06 - Irving Plaza ; 6/06 - Continental 1&2 ; 6/08 - MSG 1&2 ; 6/08 - Beacon ; 10/09 - Spectrum 2&3 ; 05/10 - Prudential ; 05/10 - MSG 1&2; 10/13 - Barclays 1&2 ; 10/14 Memphis ; 9/15 Central Park; 4/16 Philly 2; 5/16 MSG 1&2; 5/16 QC; 8/16 Boston; 8/16 Chicago 1&2; 8/18 Seattle 1&2; 8/18 Boston
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    abulr said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I know for a fact Ten was recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digitally. Just looked at the CD today. SPARS code is AAD. 
    that maybe the case... doesn't mean that said Analog master was used for pressing the Vinyl (I know this sounds stupid but has been done - people have used Digital Master to press Vinyl!)
    What analog master?  It was mastered digitally.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 (xx) / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,210
    edited April 2019
    dankind said:
    I don't think that a single Pearl Jam album was recorded in analog. I could be wrong about that, though.

    Having said that, the OG No Code and Riot Act both sound pretty good; the rest are fair to middling.
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I know for a fact Ten was recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digitally. Just looked at the CD today. SPARS code is AAD. 
    Yea, I'm really not sure how many were analog recordings. I should know that.. :s
    Post edited by MedozK on
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,070
    CDs sound good. OP vinyl sounds good. RI vinyl sounds good. All are good, just different. 

    None are what I would call reference quality, though.

    YMMV.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    HesCalledDyer said:
    abulr said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I know for a fact Ten was recorded analog, mixed analog, mastered digitally. Just looked at the CD today. SPARS code is AAD. 
    that maybe the case... doesn't mean that said Analog master was used for pressing the Vinyl (I know this sounds stupid but has been done - people have used Digital Master to press Vinyl!)
    What analog master?  It was mastered digitally.
    I was just reading a bit about this and the AAD code appearing on the cd is seen as a good indicator that the vinyl had an analog master for certain period in the transition from analog to digital.


    Riot Act was the last PJ recorded fully analog.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    I have the OG Yield CD and it sounds great on a good sound system.

    The OG Yield LP sounds OK on a good sound system.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Also the Vs/Vitalogy represses from the box set sound like crap on vinyl.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,200
    I can't tell the difference between the OP of Vs and the box set version. Vitalogy is night and day (OP is better)
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