Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,441
    The music in the movie was fucking awesome!
    I think the Gary Glitter scene was my favorite part 
    Great scene, not sure how I feel about them using Gary Glitter's music though....
    didn't he want money from them for using the song or something, but they denied him any royalties?
    From what I understand, he doesn't own the rights to his music anymore.  I'm just questioning morally whether it is right to use it, like is there a line someone would have to cross before it would be deemed inappropriate?  And if there is a line, surely pedophilia would be it?  I'm not super offended, just not sure a film about someone who was abused as a child should be using that music, maybe that was the point?  
    isnt this kind of a period piece? and the song used, was it appropriate to the scene?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited November 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    I haven’t seen this movie yet but for some reason I get a “clockwork orange” type of feel. Am I wrong?
    It's nothing like A Clockwork Orange in terms of vibe or feel. It is actually pretty low key. More than anything it's a dramatic character study. The only thing it has in common with A Clockwork Orange is the anarchist theme and even with that, the feel and cause of the anarchy is completely different.
    It is also FANTASTIC! Better than ACO IMO, although I'm more of a 2001 gal, lol. I absolutely loved this movie - best movie of the year for me, easily. And I'm glad it was, because it was my most anticipated movie of the decade probably, ever since I heard Phoenix got the role. I knew the second he got it that he would kill it, and he completely lived up to my expectations.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    Finally saw this yesterday. Really good. Pretty sad though. From a mental health perspective, there's thousands of Arthurs out there. 
    For sure. The part about how everyone expects people with mental illness to act like they don't have mental illness actually really got to me. Too true.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    The music in the movie was fucking awesome!
    I think the Gary Glitter scene was my favorite part 
    Great scene, not sure how I feel about them using Gary Glitter's music though....
    didn't he want money from them for using the song or something, but they denied him any royalties?
    From what I understand, he doesn't own the rights to his music anymore.  I'm just questioning morally whether it is right to use it, like is there a line someone would have to cross before it would be deemed inappropriate?  And if there is a line, surely pedophilia would be it?  I'm not super offended, just not sure a film about someone who was abused as a child should be using that music, maybe that was the point?  
    isnt this kind of a period piece? and the song used, was it appropriate to the scene?
    I thought it was a little weird but it still worked. The problem with that song for me is that it's harkens me back to being 10-years-old at the Spectrum for a 76ers game. It was a very common song to play during timeouts and between quarters. Frankly, the song would fit more appropriately in Space Jam than in Joker. But it worked fine considering how it's used in the film. I won't spoil how it as used though.

    There's a promo video on YouTube where shots from throughout the movie are set to the song. It doesn't spoil anything....

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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,202
    looks like it's getting a sequel.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    looks like it's getting a sequel.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    The music in the movie was fucking awesome!
    I think the Gary Glitter scene was my favorite part 
    Great scene, not sure how I feel about them using Gary Glitter's music though....
    didn't he want money from them for using the song or something, but they denied him any royalties?
    From what I understand, he doesn't own the rights to his music anymore.  I'm just questioning morally whether it is right to use it, like is there a line someone would have to cross before it would be deemed inappropriate?  And if there is a line, surely pedophilia would be it?  I'm not super offended, just not sure a film about someone who was abused as a child should be using that music, maybe that was the point?  
    isnt this kind of a period piece? and the song used, was it appropriate to the scene?
    I see where you're coming from, but I can't help but wonder what their intention was in using it though.  It's not like there's a shortage of great music of that era that could have worked in that scene instead.  Of course it's not impossible that maybe the news of Glitter's crimes never made it across the pond.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited November 2019
    The song worked perfectly - I imagine that is the one and only reason behind using it, and that they didn't care about the rest of it. They needed the perfect song for the scene, end of story, and I'm personally very glad. I hate the practice of boycotting music because of the acts of the artist. They very well may not have even known about what you guys are talking about in any case. I didn't!
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