Sloppy Joe, a slop, sloppy Joe Well I dreamt one morning and I thought what the heck Vice-President Joe Biden was massaging my neck I said why are you still here, your time has passed He said I hate Donald Trump, so it's time to kick ass
Hahaha. This is amusing.
Anyway.....HUGE lead for Biden in new CNN poll. I really like how he is separating himself from the others by going directly at Trump. Makes him seem like the presumptive nominee. And Trump taking his bait the last few days makes Biden appear more presidential than Trump....as if that is hard to do.
The 17 candidates at 2% or less should drop out by or during the summer at some point. Have it be between Biden, Pete, Kamela, Betto and Warren heading into the fall. Nice mix of candidates there. Oh, shit. And Bernie, unfortunately.
Hey... I thought you were with me in team Bernie...
I am on team "Whoever has the best chance of beating Trump." That man is Joe Biden.
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I think Biden is the only logical choice. Any far left candidate will only appeal to blue strongholds and will chase middle state votes away.
And that's his strategy. He is taking on Trump and going after swing voters (Big 10 union members) straight out of the gate. He's not getting drawn into the progressive arguments.
I LOVE kicking things off in PA. Trump is so pissed.
Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him.
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Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him.
So this is very interesting. A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders. More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work. They post out of context information. Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media.
I think Biden's smart money for running mate (if he is the nom) is Harris. Although, anyone think that could actually backfire as being seen as the old white dude with the minority female "subordinate"?
I think Biden is the only logical choice. Any far left candidate will only appeal to blue strongholds and will chase middle state votes away.
And that's his strategy. He is taking on Trump and going after swing voters (Big 10 union members) straight out of the gate. He's not getting drawn into the progressive arguments.
I LOVE kicking things off in PA. Trump is so pissed.
Trump took the bait on C'ville day one, doubling down on his defense. That's a clear win for Biden. Also, important minority leaders like Clyburn were very complimentary of his strategy. I don't see Clyburn saying much until we get closer to their primary in February, but he will make a difference when he makes an endorsement.
I think Biden's smart money for running mate (if he is the nom) is Harris. Although, anyone think that could actually backfire as being seen as the old white dude with the minority female "subordinate"?
I think Harris is a force, she just hasn't found her footing yet. She is someone that I want to hear more from, as the process moves forward. She would be a good VP pick. The old school strategy of picking a candidate based on state is gone, so being from CA is neither a positive or negative.
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it. No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.
78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.
Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.
I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it. No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.
78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.
Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.
I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.
Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it. No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.
78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.
Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.
I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.
Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.
I don't think either of them should be options but will take it if that is what it is. I think he is a good person and he would do his best to represent us well in his last few years.
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it. No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.
78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.
Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.
I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.
Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.
not a chance. that would be the whitest ticket in modern times.
Sloppy Joe, a slop, sloppy Joe Well I dreamt one morning and I thought what the heck Vice-President Joe Biden was massaging my neck I said why are you still here, your time has passed He said I hate Donald Trump, so it's time to kick ass
Hahaha. This is amusing.
Anyway.....HUGE lead for Biden in new CNN poll. I really like how he is separating himself from the others by going directly at Trump. Makes him seem like the presumptive nominee. And Trump taking his bait the last few days makes Biden appear more presidential than Trump....as if that is hard to do.
The 17 candidates at 2% or less should drop out by or during the summer at some point. Have it be between Biden, Pete, Kamela, Betto and Warren heading into the fall. Nice mix of candidates there. Oh, shit. And Bernie, unfortunately.
Hey... I thought you were with me in team Bernie...
I am on team "Whoever has the best chance of beating Trump." That man is Joe Biden.
I'm a bit scared that people are just making a truth out of "Joe Biden is the one to beat Trump" and keep on repeating it, but it will backfire.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him.
So this is very interesting. A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders. More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work. They post out of context information. Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media.
Hmmm I wonder who Bernie supporters remind me of.....
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it. No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.
78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.
Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.
I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.
Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.
not a chance. that would be the whitest ticket in modern times.
Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him.
So this is very interesting. A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders. More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work. They post out of context information. Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media.
Hmmm I wonder who Bernie supporters remind me of.....
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
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I just want whoever is against Trump to completely and utterly destroy him in the election. Only a complete and total drubbing of this asshat will help vanquish him to the dark recesses of Twitter and be the final assessment of public opinion about him. Anything more than 100 electoral votes is too much, and even that is still embarrassing for those states. He needs to be shown the door and then shot out of a cannon through it and back to his fucking gold throne of shit. Wake the fuck up 'Merica!
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
No reason to think? The average American male is dead at 78.
Good on RBG, but that could change in a week or a month...
Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him.
So this is very interesting. A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders. More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work. They post out of context information. Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media.
Hmmm I wonder who Bernie supporters remind me of.....
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
Being - from what is shown and said to the public - "perfectly fine" at 78 isn't the same as being it at even 80.
I don't think age should keep someone out though, if they are the best choice. As long as you can trust him stepping down if something happens. Didn't they hide the fact Ronald Reagan suffered from alzheimer's instead of having him step down and the VP taking over? Isn't there a story about him grabbing a miniature White House model from a fish tank, holding it in his hand and saying "This house seems familiar in some way..."?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
No reason to think? The average American male is dead at 78.
Good on RBG, but that could change in a week or a month...
No reason to think that in terms of Biden specifically is what I meant.
If he isn't slipping now, he probably never will, frankly. When seniors
go soft in the head, it tends to start earlier than that. He is vibrant,
energetic, and seems pretty damn sharp to me. I mean, a 50 or 60 or 70
year old could also have a stroke or heart attack and drop dead too. I
personally think that is someone of any age is in good health and has
all their mental faculties, it is really ageist and unfair to disqualify
them until there is an actual reason to. Biden is only 4 years older
than the current POTUS and clearly in better shape, and I don't even
hear Trump haters complaining about him being too old for the job.
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My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
No reason to think? The average American male is dead at 78.
Good on RBG, but that could change in a week or a month...
No reason to think that in terms of Biden specifically is what I meant. If he isn't slipping now, he probably never will, frankly. When seniors go soft in the head, it tends to start earlier than that. He is vibrant, energetic, and seems pretty damn sharp to me. I mean, a 50 or 60 or 70 year old could also have a stroke or heart attack and drop dead too. I personally think that is someone of any age is in good health and has all their mental faculties, it is really ageist and unfair to disqualify them until there is an actual reason to. Biden is only 4 years older than the current POTUS and clearly in better shape, and I don't even hear Trump haters complaining about him being too old for the job.
That's because Trump looks so young and vibrant.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump). He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset. Super white dude ticket though.
Well, not that I want Biden to win, but one of the most revered SCOTUS judges in the history of the country is 86 right now, and everyone seems to have complete faith in her mental faculties, and everyone who doesn't want the SCOTUS to go super right wing partisan is praying for her to stay healthy until Trump is out of office, so I have no issue with Biden's age, assuming his mind stays healthy. There is no reason to think it wouldn't. Many people stay super sharp throughout their senior years, and Biden seems to be perfectly fine in that context.
No reason to think? The average American male is dead at 78.
Good on RBG, but that could change in a week or a month...
No reason to think that in terms of Biden specifically is what I meant. If he isn't slipping now, he probably never will, frankly. When seniors go soft in the head, it tends to start earlier than that. He is vibrant, energetic, and seems pretty damn sharp to me. I mean, a 50 or 60 or 70 year old could also have a stroke or heart attack and drop dead too. I personally think that is someone of any age is in good health and has all their mental faculties, it is really ageist and unfair to disqualify them until there is an actual reason to. Biden is only 4 years older than the current POTUS and clearly in better shape, and I don't even hear Trump haters complaining about him being too old for the job.
That's because Trump looks so young and vibrant.
He's the youngest, lol.
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I don't think age should keep someone out though, if they are the best choice. As long as you can trust him stepping down if something happens. Didn't they hide the fact Ronald Reagan suffered from alzheimer's instead of having him step down and the VP taking over? Isn't there a story about him grabbing a miniature White House model from a fish tank, holding it in his hand and saying "This house seems familiar in some way..."?