The Democratic Candidates

mrussel1

Hi! said:

I didn’t watch Colbert, but read a quick little article. Biden shouldn’t make jokes about Michelle as vp. Unless....

That would be a political nuclear bomb.  Her popularity is off the charts amongst normal humans.  

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

I didn’t watch Colbert, but read a quick little article. Biden shouldn’t make jokes about Michelle as vp. Unless....

That would be a political nuclear bomb.  Her popularity is off the charts amongst normal humans.  

It is a little crazy how much Americans seem to want to have a royal family running the show...Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons, now Obamas.  

OnWis97

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

I didn’t watch Colbert, but read a quick little article. Biden shouldn’t make jokes about Michelle as vp. Unless....

That would be a political nuclear bomb.  Her popularity is off the charts amongst normal humans.  

It is a little crazy how much Americans seem to want to have a royal family running the show...Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons, now Obamas.  

You forgot the obvious one.

Trumps.

A third of the country would take The Don, Ivanka, Jr., and Eric for a 32-year run right now, if offered.

The Juggler

OnWis97 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

I didn’t watch Colbert, but read a quick little article. Biden shouldn’t make jokes about Michelle as vp. Unless....

That would be a political nuclear bomb.  Her popularity is off the charts amongst normal humans.  

It is a little crazy how much Americans seem to want to have a royal family running the show...Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons, now Obamas.  

You forgot the obvious one.

Trumps.

A third of the country would take The Don, Ivanka, Jr., and Eric for a 32-year run right now, if offered.

You say this a lot and there is literally no evidence to suggest that a third of the country would prefer that, despite their support of their father. 

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/08/donald-trump-jr-sad-rally.html

Jearlpam0925

mickeyrat said:

and they need to be energetic while they do it...

Annnnd that would be Warren. People can say what they want. More light on her only strengthens her image. I'm running through the Climate town halls on my DVR while working. She absolutely killed it last night.

Spiritual_Chaos

https://youtu.be/uMiM6XonnPM

Spiritual_Chaos

Hi! said:

This one is for Spiritual

The T-800 learned more and became more human the more he learned as time went on. He didn't turn into a gaffe-machine as time went on.

#SKYNETT800MODEL1012020

The Juggler

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/uMiM6XonnPM

He really needs to drop out.

Hi!

Gaffes aren’t always a bad thing IMO. It reminds everyone we’re human not robots, plus the non stop media coverage. Good thing about Biden is, we won’t be losing the comedy factor if he beats Trump. People like to laugh.

Meltdown99

Biden is a senile old man...those aren't gaffes.

JimmyV

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a senile old man...those aren't gaffes.

He definitely seems to have lost his fastball. 

Meltdown99

JimmyV said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a senile old man...those aren't gaffes.

He definitely seems to have lost his fastball. 

I think Biden is a joke.  I like Mayor Pete.  Need some youth, not back to back POTUS's that should be put out to pasture...

JimmyV

Meltdown99 said:

JimmyV said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a senile old man...those aren't gaffes.

He definitely seems to have lost his fastball. 

I think Biden is a joke.  I like Mayor Pete.  Need some youth, not back to back POTUS's that should be put out to pasture...

I like Mayor Pete, too, and I don't disagree that a younger candidate (as long as they can win) may be best for the country. 

Meltdown99

JimmyV said:

Meltdown99 said:

JimmyV said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a senile old man...those aren't gaffes.

He definitely seems to have lost his fastball. 

I think Biden is a joke.  I like Mayor Pete.  Need some youth, not back to back POTUS's that should be put out to pasture...

I like Mayor Pete, too, and I don't disagree that a younger candidate (as long as they can win) may be best for the country. 

I think we are sometimes dismissive of youthful people.  I have at times.  But I just like Mayor.  I do like leaders with military backgrounds.

We will see.  But it will be Biden.  Those debates I'm watching.  I cannot wait for the question asked, and both candidates answer are totally unrelated to the question.  These will be the 1st debates that have a nap time built-in...lol

Spiritual_Chaos

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

dankind

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

The Bernie Bro audience plant did his job well despite most of his manufactured concern being presently false.

Is Bernie finally fighting dirty? If so, I take it 2016 taught him a lesson.

mrussel1

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

The Bernie Bro audience plant did his job well despite most of his manufactured concern being presently false.

Is Bernie finally fighting dirty? If so, I take it 2016 taught him a lesson.

Plus I think the headline is misleading completely. Biden knew who he was and said his staff told him he was not any board or company, etc.  But he also said that if any of that is inaccurate, he wouldn't take the money.  So I don't know what the problem is, to be honest.  

dankind

mrussel1 said:

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

The Bernie Bro audience plant did his job well despite most of his manufactured concern being presently false.

Is Bernie finally fighting dirty? If so, I take it 2016 taught him a lesson.

Plus I think the headline is misleading completely. Biden knew who he was and said his staff told him he was not any board or company, etc.  But he also said that if any of that is inaccurate, he wouldn't take the money.  So I don't know what the problem is, to be honest.  

Well, technically, there isn't one that's based in reality. But it's certainly another story in our new reality of misinformation ruling the day.

It's definitely a problem.

mrussel1

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

The Bernie Bro audience plant did his job well despite most of his manufactured concern being presently false.

Is Bernie finally fighting dirty? If so, I take it 2016 taught him a lesson.

Bernie's proxies fought plenty dirty in 2016.  Didn't you hear some of the things that were said by speakers at rallies?  Bernie keeps his hands clean and let's his surrogates get in the mud, just like you point out with the plant.  

mrussel1

dankind said:

mrussel1 said:

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Joe Biden Caught Off Guard at Town Hall by Question on Fund-Raiser’s Fossil Fuel Ties

Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed momentarily caught off guard on Wednesday in a nationally televised climate change forum about whether a host of a fund-raising event for him had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Mr. Biden, who has pledged not to take money from oil and gas executives, was confronted by an audience member about a high-dollar fund-raiser on his schedule on Thursday in New York with an executive named Andrew Goldman.

Mr. Biden denied Mr. Goldman was a fossil fuel executive. The pledge he signed binds him not to take contributions of more than $200 from “S.E.C.-named executives of fossil fuel companies.’’ The former vice president told the CNN host Anderson Cooper that Mr. Goldman was not listed as an executive in fossil fuel company filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. “That’s what we look at,’’ Mr. Biden said.

Mr. Cooper, who seemed apprised in advance of the issue raised by the audience member, pressed Mr. Biden, saying Mr. Goldman “has a company called Western LNG” that announced it was building an offshore terminal in western Canada to export natural gas. Earlier in the day, the news site The Intercept had reported on Mr. Goldman’s background.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/joe-biden-climate-fossil-fuel.html

The Bernie Bro audience plant did his job well despite most of his manufactured concern being presently false.

Is Bernie finally fighting dirty? If so, I take it 2016 taught him a lesson.

Plus I think the headline is misleading completely. Biden knew who he was and said his staff told him he was not any board or company, etc.  But he also said that if any of that is inaccurate, he wouldn't take the money.  So I don't know what the problem is, to be honest.  

Well, technically, there isn't one that's based in reality. But it's certainly another story in our new reality of misinformation ruling the day.

It's definitely a problem.

I expect a headline from the NYT to be more grounded in the facts of the story.  I'm fine on the actual text, but there's no evidence that he was "caught off guard" which seeks to capitalize or perpetuate a narrative of disengagement, senility, age, etc.  That simply isn't the case in this story.