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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 24,428
    mickeyrat said:
    I saw the California-Iowa hippie, dippy, crystal lady on CNN last night and Anderson asked her to comment on her words during the debate in how to defeat Team Trump Treason after playing the debate clip. She went into a Long soliloquy about how Team Trump Treason is driven by hate but that her campaign can be driven by love because way more people love than hate and she went on and on about the love, and then she starts throwing out bible verses and Jesus and love and the impression I was left with was it felt and sounded like a mix of evangelical with Jim Jones cultish undertones. No thanks (shudder).
    such an unorthodox way of marketing new age books, isnt it?
    Does she have a book out as well? Shilling something.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 21,194
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    I saw the California-Iowa hippie, dippy, crystal lady on CNN last night and Anderson asked her to comment on her words during the debate in how to defeat Team Trump Treason after playing the debate clip. She went into a Long soliloquy about how Team Trump Treason is driven by hate but that her campaign can be driven by love because way more people love than hate and she went on and on about the love, and then she starts throwing out bible verses and Jesus and love and the impression I was left with was it felt and sounded like a mix of evangelical with Jim Jones cultish undertones. No thanks (shudder).
    Did you watch her though on that show where she destroyed Dave Rubin for marganizling slavery? 

    "Nobody has a monopoly on human suffering"

    7 min in. Sounds pretty damn sharp here:


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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 1,865
    I think she’s smart as fuck. I like her, but I can see how she probably comes off quite zany to others. I do feel like her offer to meet Trump on a “field of love” could be dangerous.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 24,428
    Hi! said:
    I think she’s smart as fuck. I like her, but I can see how she probably comes off quite zany to others. I do feel like her offer to meet Trump on a “field of love” could be dangerous.
    I don’t doubt her intelligence and she’s very articulate. It was the tone of her voice and all the emotional button key words she was using that I felt like she was trying to program me.  Very cultish feeling. And I’d vote for her over Team Trump Treason, Hell, I’d vote for a rock with her as VP over Team Trump Treason.
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 1,865
    Ohhh, snap!!!! The draft is tonight! Party!! 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,329
    mickeyrat said:
    I saw the California-Iowa hippie, dippy, crystal lady on CNN last night and Anderson asked her to comment on her words during the debate in how to defeat Team Trump Treason after playing the debate clip. She went into a Long soliloquy about how Team Trump Treason is driven by hate but that her campaign can be driven by love because way more people love than hate and she went on and on about the love, and then she starts throwing out bible verses and Jesus and love and the impression I was left with was it felt and sounded like a mix of evangelical with Jim Jones cultish undertones. No thanks (shudder).
    such an unorthodox way of marketing new age books, isnt it?
    Does she have a book out as well? Shilling something.
    currently? unsure. but theres a back catalog for sure......
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 21,194

    Sanders aide hits back: Joe Biden 'just flat out lied' over health care


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 20,112
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 13,519
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 20,112
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
    That is probably better than this....but my main issue with that is this:  how are people understanding who to pick in a poll at this point?
    It is whomever the press decided to give the most attention to, most likely.
    So, assuming for a moment that what I think is actually the case...then 14 other candidates are pushed aside because of what pundits think.  (Further drawing the string out, here....I think the pundits are bullshit operators and do not generally have the voice of the people.)
    Who is to say that Yang might not be the best?  He got like 3 words in at the last debate.  He would not poll in the top 6.  (And change out Yang for many candidates)


    This is the case for both parties.  No answers on how to fix, really, and my thoughts could be wrong.
    I do not think I am far off, though.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 13,519
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
    That is probably better than this....but my main issue with that is this:  how are people understanding who to pick in a poll at this point?
    It is whomever the press decided to give the most attention to, most likely.
    So, assuming for a moment that what I think is actually the case...then 14 other candidates are pushed aside because of what pundits think.  (Further drawing the string out, here....I think the pundits are bullshit operators and do not generally have the voice of the people.)
    Who is to say that Yang might not be the best?  He got like 3 words in at the last debate.  He would not poll in the top 6.  (And change out Yang for many candidates)


    This is the case for both parties.  No answers on how to fix, really, and my thoughts could be wrong.
    I do not think I am far off, though.
    Yeah these are all good points. Maybe three debates with 6 or 7 people each would be the best way to go. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 20,112
    No polling until a month out? 
    Can't put the horse back in the barn, I know, but just a thought.  Let the sheep try to be actual people and make up their own minds, based on what makes sense to them.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 17,762
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
    That is probably better than this....but my main issue with that is this:  how are people understanding who to pick in a poll at this point?
    It is whomever the press decided to give the most attention to, most likely.
    So, assuming for a moment that what I think is actually the case...then 14 other candidates are pushed aside because of what pundits think.  (Further drawing the string out, here....I think the pundits are bullshit operators and do not generally have the voice of the people.)
    Who is to say that Yang might not be the best?  He got like 3 words in at the last debate.  He would not poll in the top 6.  (And change out Yang for many candidates)


    This is the case for both parties.  No answers on how to fix, really, and my thoughts could be wrong.
    I do not think I am far off, though.
    This is all a reaction to the Bernie campaign screaming that they system is "RIGGED"!  So the DNC over steers to put everyone on the stage, muting out the people with a reasonable chance.  
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 20,112
    mrussel1 said:
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
    That is probably better than this....but my main issue with that is this:  how are people understanding who to pick in a poll at this point?
    It is whomever the press decided to give the most attention to, most likely.
    So, assuming for a moment that what I think is actually the case...then 14 other candidates are pushed aside because of what pundits think.  (Further drawing the string out, here....I think the pundits are bullshit operators and do not generally have the voice of the people.)
    Who is to say that Yang might not be the best?  He got like 3 words in at the last debate.  He would not poll in the top 6.  (And change out Yang for many candidates)


    This is the case for both parties.  No answers on how to fix, really, and my thoughts could be wrong.
    I do not think I am far off, though.
    This is all a reaction to the Bernie campaign screaming that they system is "RIGGED"!  So the DNC over steers to put everyone on the stage, muting out the people with a reasonable chance.  
    I do not disagree with you...but the heart of my point, I guess, is that you (and most of us) have already determined who has a reasonable chance.  Why?  Everyone has not even had a pulpit from which to share their actual thoughts and opinions to a large audience of Americans.  If everyone had a 30 minute session, or shared an hour session in small round table discussions, perhaps this would happen.

    I am sure the info is out there to be read, but we know what news reporting has become....

    A tough problem.

    The Republicans did something similar last go-around.  Wayyy to many people talking over each other, it was a joke.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 3,398
    I saw the California-Iowa hippie, dippy, crystal lady on CNN last night and Anderson asked her to comment on her words during the debate in how to defeat Team Trump Treason after playing the debate clip. She went into a Long soliloquy


    about how Team Trump Treason is driven by hate but that her campaign can be driven by love because way more people love than hate and she went on and on about the love, and then she starts throwing out bible verses and Jesus and love and the impression I was left with was it felt and sounded like a mix of evangelical with Jim Jones cultish undertones. No thanks (shudder).





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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 17,762
    mrussel1 said:
    If they are not going to put everyone together, why not break out into significantly smaller groups so that people can actually speak?

    System is so jacked.
    Yeah I'd like it if maybe the top-6 or so polling candidates had their own debate, and then do whatever you want with the rest (all at once, split them up, whatever). When there's so little time that presidential candidates are asked to raise their hand over an issue as nuanced as health care for illegal immigrants, that's a problem. 
    That is probably better than this....but my main issue with that is this:  how are people understanding who to pick in a poll at this point?
    It is whomever the press decided to give the most attention to, most likely.
    So, assuming for a moment that what I think is actually the case...then 14 other candidates are pushed aside because of what pundits think.  (Further drawing the string out, here....I think the pundits are bullshit operators and do not generally have the voice of the people.)
    Who is to say that Yang might not be the best?  He got like 3 words in at the last debate.  He would not poll in the top 6.  (And change out Yang for many candidates)


    This is the case for both parties.  No answers on how to fix, really, and my thoughts could be wrong.
    I do not think I am far off, though.
    This is all a reaction to the Bernie campaign screaming that they system is "RIGGED"!  So the DNC over steers to put everyone on the stage, muting out the people with a reasonable chance.  
    I do not disagree with you...but the heart of my point, I guess, is that you (and most of us) have already determined who has a reasonable chance.  Why?  Everyone has not even had a pulpit from which to share their actual thoughts and opinions to a large audience of Americans.  If everyone had a 30 minute session, or shared an hour session in small round table discussions, perhaps this would happen.

    I am sure the info is out there to be read, but we know what news reporting has become....

    A tough problem.

    The Republicans did something similar last go-around.  Wayyy to many people talking over each other, it was a joke.
    I'm with you.  It's annoying to me that the DNC comes across as ball-less.  If 6 candidates are 96% of the vote, put them on the stage together.  I don't know the new rules, but as we get closer to IA and NH, they better have some rules on winnowing the people allowed on stage.  
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 3,398
    dignin said:



    Warren tied with Sanders is scary. She is almost a guarantee to lose to Trump if she gets to the general. 


     
    Show me the evidence. That's not what the polling shows.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html




    Warren is +2.5 per RCP aggregate, which is almost 1 point worse than hillary was in their aggregate Nov 2016.

    Plus this current polling is with minimal attacks. Warren had no reply when Trump mocked her DNA test. Ramp up the attack machine and her numbers will decline.

    Plus, we nominate someone who wants to implement medicare for all, we lose.

    Warren should be smart enough to know that.

     

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 17,762
    dignin said:



    Warren tied with Sanders is scary. She is almost a guarantee to lose to Trump if she gets to the general. 


     
    Show me the evidence. That's not what the polling shows.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html




    Warren is +2.5 per RCP aggregate, which is almost 1 point worse than hillary was in their aggregate Nov 2016.

    Plus this current polling is with minimal attacks. Warren had no reply when Trump mocked her DNA test. Ramp up the attack machine and her numbers will decline.

    Plus, we nominate someone who wants to implement medicare for all, we lose.

    Warren should be smart enough to know that.

     

    Has she signed on to M4A?  I presume she has, as neither of them can let someone be on their left flank.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 17,762
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 21,194
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    Haha. Not a good look for mr "15 bucks minimum wage"
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,329
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,549
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    McDonald's should steal that line..." we are competitive with other fast-food restaurants"... Bernie Sanders like all politicians-"do as I say, not as I do".
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 17,762
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    I know, I picked up on that line too.  And the campaign manager is complaining that he already did his budget and made hiring decisions, so it's difficult to change that.  Well no shit.  Welcome to management.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 21,194

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,329
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    I know, I picked up on that line too.  And the campaign manager is complaining that he already did his budget and made hiring decisions, so it's difficult to change that.  Well no shit.  Welcome to management.  
    sooooo would this "manager" have a role in a sanders admin?
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,750
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,750
    Bernie fighting back stating he is paying his staffers at least as much as part-time high school kids working at McDonalds.  A true man they of the people!

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 21,194
    edited July 2019
    Jason P said:
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
    Jason P said:
    Bernie fighting back stating he is paying his staffers at least as much as part-time high school kids working at McDonalds.  A true man they of the people!

    man being cranky on a message board because he has problems accepting society evolves
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,771
    Jason P said:
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
    Haha! I had a similar idea during the last election . Wanted to see candidates have an American Ninja Warrior experience! Great minds...
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