ISIS Fighters and their wives?

Meltdown99

ISIS fighters and their wives?

Do you want them back?

I say they should have been left for dead on the battlefield.  

https://twitter.com/freep/status/1102567891822628866

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1102567450011406338

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The gig is up? Now that they can't behead anyone anymore without incurring great risk to themselves... they're seeking the assurance of human rights policies to ensure their safety?

What of their ideology? Has it gone away? Or has it just been shelved for a more opportune time (ie. a soft target like a street sidewalk or mall while rehabilitating themselves on the government dime)?

Meltdown99

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The gig is up? Now that they can't behead anyone anymore without incurring great risk to themselves... they're seeking the assurance of human rights policies to ensure their safety?

What of their ideology? Has it gone away? Or has it just been shelved for a more opportune time (ie. a soft target like a street sidewalk or mall while rehabilitating themselves on the government dime)?

I say we bring back the firing squad and get rid of them all.  A UK MP claims Trudeau tried to bring Jihadi Jack to Canada.  

jeffbr

The closest any US ISIS fighter should get to the States is Guantanamo. I say leave them to dehydrate out in the desert somewhere. Fuck 'em.

Meltdown99

Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...

Jason P

Dinosaur Island would be a respectable destination.  

mcgruff10

Don't you renounce your us citizenship when you fight for the enemy?  

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...

how about a videotaped beheading? live on PPV maybe?

josevolution

Yep let them eat crow should not be allowed back here ..

HughFreakingDillon

go fight for the enemy and call for the deaths of those you are now seeking refuge with?

no. I'm about as forgiving as you get, but no. fuck you. 

Meltdown99

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...

how about a videotaped beheading? live on PPV maybe?

That would work.  We could give the PPV money to wounded soldiers and their families...

oftenreading

Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

cincybearcat

oftenreading said:

Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

It's certainly an argument for it.  I personally do not agree.  You leave and join something like ISIS and fight against your country, you lose citizenship.  Thus, you can't come back into the US.  If captured by US you go to where all the other terrorists go.

HughFreakingDillon

oftenreading said:

Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

There is real danger in bringing them back, even to be put into prison where they have time to be able to radicalize others. how can we be sure of their intentions when bringing them back? 

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1102958715924369408

HughFreakingDillon

I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?

oftenreading

HughFreakingDillon said:

I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?

Logically that would be when someone recognized the error of their ways, because if your ways are successful then the error is harder to see. 

HughFreakingDillon

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?

Logically that would be when someone recognized the error of their ways, because if your ways are successful then the error is harder to see. 

for the morally defunct, yeah, I'd say that's true. But I can often, I won't claim 100%, see the error of my ways and need to change course even if I'm "getting away with it". 

obviously they are much further entrenched, and yes, it would be much more difficult to see that, I just see it as disingenuous. 

PJPOWER

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

It's certainly an argument for it.  I personally do not agree.  You leave and join something like ISIS and fight against your country, you lose citizenship.  Thus, you can't come back into the US.  If captured by US you go to where all the other terrorists go.

I totally agree, she is no longer a US citizen in my opinion.  Send her a baseball glove to catch the next hellfire missile!

oftenreading

There’s got to be some way to get data from these people, otherwise it’s a huge missed opportunity. Maybe some way to screen who is lower risk to being back. We need to study the radicalization process.