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ISIS Fighters and their wives?

Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
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ISIS fighters and their wives?

Do you want them back?

I say they should have been left for dead on the battlefield.  



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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    The gig is up? Now that they can't behead anyone anymore without incurring great risk to themselves... they're seeking the assurance of human rights policies to ensure their safety?

    What of their ideology? Has it gone away? Or has it just been shelved for a more opportune time (ie. a soft target like a street sidewalk or mall while rehabilitating themselves on the government dime)?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The gig is up? Now that they can't behead anyone anymore without incurring great risk to themselves... they're seeking the assurance of human rights policies to ensure their safety?

    What of their ideology? Has it gone away? Or has it just been shelved for a more opportune time (ie. a soft target like a street sidewalk or mall while rehabilitating themselves on the government dime)?
    I say we bring back the firing squad and get rid of them all.  A UK MP claims Trudeau tried to bring Jihadi Jack to Canada.  
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    The closest any US ISIS fighter should get to the States is Guantanamo. I say leave them to dehydrate out in the desert somewhere. Fuck 'em.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Dinosaur Island would be a respectable destination.  
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    Don't you renounce your us citizenship when you fight for the enemy?  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    Meltdown99 said:
    Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...
    how about a videotaped beheading? live on PPV maybe?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    Yep let them eat crow should not be allowed back here ..
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    go fight for the enemy and call for the deaths of those you are now seeking refuge with?

    no. I'm about as forgiving as you get, but no. fuck you. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Why not just execute them when they surrender.  ISIS members and their wives are not human and do not deserve due process...
    how about a videotaped beheading? live on PPV maybe?
    That would work.  We could give the PPV money to wounded soldiers and their families...
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    oftenreading said:
    Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    It's certainly an argument for it.  I personally do not agree.  You leave and join something like ISIS and fight against your country, you lose citizenship.  Thus, you can't come back into the US.  If captured by US you go to where all the other terrorists go.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    oftenreading said:
    Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    There is real danger in bringing them back, even to be put into prison where they have time to be able to radicalize others. how can we be sure of their intentions when bringing them back? 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?
    Logically that would be when someone recognized the error of their ways, because if your ways are successful then the error is harder to see. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I mean, isn't it convenient they have realized the error of their ways after they have nowhere else to turn?
    Logically that would be when someone recognized the error of their ways, because if your ways are successful then the error is harder to see. 
    for the morally defunct, yeah, I'd say that's true. But I can often, I won't claim 100%, see the error of my ways and need to change course even if I'm "getting away with it". 

    obviously they are much further entrenched, and yes, it would be much more difficult to see that, I just see it as disingenuous. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    Interesting opinion piece on the potential value of allowing US (or Canadian, or British, etc.) nationals to return home to face their justice system, including insights into both operational issues and how recruitment/radicalization occurs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/opinion/isis-foreign-fighters.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    It's certainly an argument for it.  I personally do not agree.  You leave and join something like ISIS and fight against your country, you lose citizenship.  Thus, you can't come back into the US.  If captured by US you go to where all the other terrorists go.
    I totally agree, she is no longer a US citizen in my opinion.  Send her a baseball glove to catch the next hellfire missile!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    There’s got to be some way to get data from these people, otherwise it’s a huge missed opportunity. Maybe some way to screen who is lower risk to being back. We need to study the radicalization process. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    oftenreading said:
    There’s got to be some way to get data from these people, otherwise it’s a huge missed opportunity. Maybe some way to screen who is lower risk to being back. We need to study the radicalization process. 
    Water boarding?
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    Horrible people all around, the thing ISIS members  has done is so evil there is no words to describe.

  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    There’s got to be some way to get data from these people, otherwise it’s a huge missed opportunity. Maybe some way to screen who is lower risk to being back. We need to study the radicalization process. 
    Water boarding?
    Now you went and done it, opening old wounds.  Line them up on the battlefield (including the wives) and a bullet should solve the problem.  These people are freaking useless.  Or how about we tie them to a pole and let some wild boars loose, preferably underfed boars.
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    It appears Austria prefers it's a leader from the last century, unlike the US.../s
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


    @Spiritual_Chaos

    Sweden calls for international tribunal to prosecute ISIS fighters for war crimes
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5030128/sweden-international-tribunal-isis-fighters/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalToronto&fbclid=IwAR0JdVvCr7jKU6teQPwAjWQpNY6afrqM53NpUJQp8w3dJ8ahqzyh2WmcqkI

    This might be a good idea, as long as the sentences are life upon conviction...
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


    @Spiritual_Chaos

    Sweden calls for international tribunal to prosecute ISIS fighters for war crimes
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5030128/sweden-international-tribunal-isis-fighters/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalToronto&fbclid=IwAR0JdVvCr7jKU6teQPwAjWQpNY6afrqM53NpUJQp8w3dJ8ahqzyh2WmcqkI

    This might be a good idea, as long as the sentences are life upon conviction...
    Interesting idea and I’d like to hear more as they pursue it. 
     
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


    @Spiritual_Chaos

    Sweden calls for international tribunal to prosecute ISIS fighters for war crimes
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5030128/sweden-international-tribunal-isis-fighters/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalToronto&fbclid=IwAR0JdVvCr7jKU6teQPwAjWQpNY6afrqM53NpUJQp8w3dJ8ahqzyh2WmcqkI

    This might be a good idea, as long as the sentences are life upon conviction...
    Interesting idea and I’d like to hear more as they pursue it. 
     
    Like the Nuremberg trials after WW2.  Why not pursue it.  Get an international team of judges to conduct the trials.  If convicted, I imagine they can be imprisoned in Guantanamo...
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


    @Spiritual_Chaos

    Sweden calls for international tribunal to prosecute ISIS fighters for war crimes
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5030128/sweden-international-tribunal-isis-fighters/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalToronto&fbclid=IwAR0JdVvCr7jKU6teQPwAjWQpNY6afrqM53NpUJQp8w3dJ8ahqzyh2WmcqkI

    This might be a good idea, as long as the sentences are life upon conviction...
    Getting a conviction is the challenge.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Hot topic in Sweden right now. 


    @Spiritual_Chaos

    Sweden calls for international tribunal to prosecute ISIS fighters for war crimes
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5030128/sweden-international-tribunal-isis-fighters/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalToronto&fbclid=IwAR0JdVvCr7jKU6teQPwAjWQpNY6afrqM53NpUJQp8w3dJ8ahqzyh2WmcqkI

    This might be a good idea, as long as the sentences are life upon conviction...
    Getting a conviction is the challenge.
    As it should be.
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