Brothers say Jussie Smollett paid them to carry out alleged attack: sources

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Police budgets and resources are tight.  I am sure they are not happy that they invested time and money on a bogus accusation...
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    I agree this has nothing to do with good lawyers.  This is typical Chicago corruption and celebrity privilege.

    I still can't believe this whole thing.  This city has enough problems as it is...and now this nonsense.  Ridiculous.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,216
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Nice projection on your part but I happened to catch one of his attorneys being grilled by Don Lemon and what she said and how they, meaning his team of lawyers, handled the case, without her shouting or spouting nonsense, leads me to believe that Jussie had a very accomplished legal team on his side who argued for their client before a judge and brought him justice. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. Oh my god! The justice system is under attack! Now maybe Team Trump Treason can find the real killer of Ron and Nicole.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Police budgets and resources are tight.  I am sure they are not happy that they invested time and money on a bogus accusation...
    Yeah the police chief was pretty pissed off. Can't blame him considering it's one of the most violent cities in the world. Any resources or time wasted is a big deal. 
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Police budgets and resources are tight.  I am sure they are not happy that they invested time and money on a bogus accusation...
    Yep.  CPD has more than enough shit to deal with and the fact that they wasted so much time and effort on this nonsense is absurd.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Nice projection on your part but I happened to catch one of his attorneys being grilled by Don Lemon and what she said and how they, meaning his team of lawyers, handled the case, without her shouting or spouting nonsense, leads me to believe that Jussie had a very accomplished legal team on his side who argued for their client before a judge and brought him justice. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. Oh my god! The justice system is under attack! Now maybe Team Trump Treason can find the real killer of Ron and Nicole.
    Forget Ron and Nicole, we need to find the two racist "Maga-country" guys that attacked Smollett! Surprisingly, he made no mention of them in his most recent interview. That's strange. You would think a guy that was attacked by two racists, physically beaten, and then made to look like he made it all up would want those two guys brought to justice. But no, he just wants to go on living his life. What a trooper. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Good lawyers can't just make a case disappear. And that's what's happened here. Even the allegation against him has been wiped clean. Allegations don't get expunged just weeks after a police department charges a suspect. 
    IRA and Russian hackers, duh.
    Or a corrupt AD. But whatever. Some actor putting on a hate-crime farce isn't all that significant to me. Now, victims of actual hate crimes on the other hand, this probably is significant to them. But it's not to me and it's a joke to you so I guess us white guys need not worry. 
    Police budgets and resources are tight.  I am sure they are not happy that they invested time and money on a bogus accusation...
    Yeah the police chief was pretty pissed off. Can't blame him considering it's one of the most violent cities in the world. Any resources or time wasted is a big deal. 
    It looks like another example of justice for the privileged ... no if and buts about it.
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Aweful prosecutors.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Aweful prosecutors.
    You mean corrupt prosecutors...or DA.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Good lawyers.
    Aweful prosecutors.
    You mean corrupt prosecutors...or DA.
    Why are you saying that? What evidence to you have that this has something to do with corruption?
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited March 2019
    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
    Oh you're worried about an actual problem rather than a make-believe one. That's good to hear. 

    In all seriousness, Smollett is full of shit and he's going to get away with it, but it's a victimless crime (other than wasting the police's time) so I don't really care. But there is an actual problem on the southern border. And it's such a Trump move to allow the problem to persist and sit there like "See? If we had a wall...." rather than actually taking action. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
    Oh you're worried about an actual problem rather than a make-believe one. That's good to hear. 

    In all seriousness, Smollett is full of shit and he's going to get away with it, but it's a victimless crime (other than wasting the police's time) so I don't really care. But there is an actual problem on the southern border. And it's such a Trump move to allow the problem to persist and sit there like "See? If we had a wall...." rather than actually taking action. 
    I wouldn't call it a victimless crime, really. I can't imagine that other actual hate crime victims won't be negatively impacted by what he did.
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  • Meltdown99
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    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    I am more interested to know how an American became the first 2 swindles two Nigerians.  That alone is fascinating.
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  • Meltdown99
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    May I suggest, if you are going to fake a racist attack, and you are black, you might wanna hire a couple of white dudes.  That might have been the police first clue that his story was BS...and, of course, pay CASH...
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
    Oh you're worried about an actual problem rather than a make-believe one. That's good to hear. 

    In all seriousness, Smollett is full of shit and he's going to get away with it, but it's a victimless crime (other than wasting the police's time) so I don't really care. But there is an actual problem on the southern border. And it's such a Trump move to allow the problem to persist and sit there like "See? If we had a wall...." rather than actually taking action. 
    I wouldn't call it a victimless crime, really. I can't imagine that other actual hate crime victims won't be negatively impacted by what he did.
    I agree and I said the same thing a few posts ago in this thread. This post here was more to gauge if Halifax was being sarcastic about the southern border problem. So I figured I'd toss out a liberal talking point regarding Smollett to move on to the southern border topic. 
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  • PJ_Soul
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    May I suggest, if you are going to fake a racist attack, and you are black, you might wanna hire a couple of white dudes.  That might have been the police first clue that his story was BS...and, of course, pay CASH...
    Yes, that definitely would have been a much better idea!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
    Oh you're worried about an actual problem rather than a make-believe one. That's good to hear. 

    In all seriousness, Smollett is full of shit and he's going to get away with it, but it's a victimless crime (other than wasting the police's time) so I don't really care. But there is an actual problem on the southern border. And it's such a Trump move to allow the problem to persist and sit there like "See? If we had a wall...." rather than actually taking action. 
    I know it’s a manufactured crisis being exacerbated by Team Trump Treason for political purposes. But he just gave the dog whistle for militia members to go down there and shoot people as it’s more efficient. So there is that.

    The Jussie problem doesn’t even rank in my list of problems that need to be addressed. And certainly not by a sitting POTUS with an itchy twitter finger.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited March 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Aren't any of you worried that the two racist maga-country guys are still free? They might be tying a noose around someone's neck as we speak!
    Too caught up and worried about the invasion over our southern border. Once the wall is built, I’ll be able to focus on and be concerned with much more important things.
    Oh you're worried about an actual problem rather than a make-believe one. That's good to hear. 

    In all seriousness, Smollett is full of shit and he's going to get away with it, but it's a victimless crime (other than wasting the police's time) so I don't really care. But there is an actual problem on the southern border. And it's such a Trump move to allow the problem to persist and sit there like "See? If we had a wall...." rather than actually taking action. 
    I wouldn't call it a victimless crime, really. I can't imagine that other actual hate crime victims won't be negatively impacted by what he did.
    I agree and I said the same thing a few posts ago in this thread. This post here was more to gauge if Halifax was being sarcastic about the southern border problem. So I figured I'd toss out a liberal talking point regarding Smollett to move on to the southern border topic. 
    I think Halifax doesn't agree that there is an "invasion" at the southern border. The word is extremely loaded. I agree with Halifax. There is a crisis, not an invasion. That is a very important distinction IMO ... And that crisis does NOT require a wall, like you said. And like I said just yesterday, Trump is not dealing with the real issues at the Southern border (or at all the other points of entry) at all, because he is focused on his ridiculous wall. And people are suffering for it.

    But hey, does any of that matter? I mean, the charges were dropped against Jusse Smollett. That is obviously the most important thing right now. ;)
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