ANALYSIS: Why people are freaking out about Howard Schultz running for president

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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Will coffee be free?
    you couldn't pay me to drink over-roasted over-brewed over-priced starbucks

    seriously, gas station coffee has come a long way in the last decade and way cheaper

    usually i just brew my own at home in the morning.  french press only takes 4 minutes.
    Silly me!  I forgot it was Star*ucks.  Totally agree- that stuff is nasty!  Give me Pete's or better yet, Jeremiah's Pick!
    Hmmm I like Starbucks. I find gas station coffee to be awful. Pete’s is good too. I like over roasted coffee apparently. 
    For my first time in about ten years, I quit coffee six or seven weeks ago. Unbelievable the positive impact it's had on me.
    Bravo!  I've quit coffee a few times... for a few days.  

    What are the benefits for you, Ben?
    I used to get into what I called the 'energy hole'... first you get the high, then you get the crash. That's completely gone since coffee. I'm stabilized and not fading for far longer days than ever before, I feel less irritable, I used to get chronic headaches and it's been ages since I've had one now, my mind feels more engaged, and I feel more focused. Was a really good move for me. The first week is definitely hard though. After that, no headaches, no problems.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Starbucks Coffee celebrated the opening of his 100th Russian branch in Tuesday
    https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/8-facts-to-celebrate-100-starbucks-in-russia-48880
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    No thanks on the billionaires.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,300
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Will coffee be free?
    you couldn't pay me to drink over-roasted over-brewed over-priced starbucks

    seriously, gas station coffee has come a long way in the last decade and way cheaper

    usually i just brew my own at home in the morning.  french press only takes 4 minutes.
    Silly me!  I forgot it was Star*ucks.  Totally agree- that stuff is nasty!  Give me Pete's or better yet, Jeremiah's Pick!
    Hmmm I like Starbucks. I find gas station coffee to be awful. Pete’s is good too. I like over roasted coffee apparently. 
    For my first time in about ten years, I quit coffee six or seven weeks ago. Unbelievable the positive impact it's had on me.
    Bravo!  I've quit coffee a few times... for a few days.  

    What are the benefits for you, Ben?
    I used to get into what I called the 'energy hole'... first you get the high, then you get the crash. That's completely gone since coffee. I'm stabilized and not fading for far longer days than ever before, I feel less irritable, I used to get chronic headaches and it's been ages since I've had one now, my mind feels more engaged, and I feel more focused. Was a really good move for me. The first week is definitely hard though. After that, no headaches, no problems.
    Sounds like a smart move.  I've been dealing with migraines lately and have been told coffee helps.  But maybe that's going the wrong way!

    rgambs said:
    No thanks on the billionaires.
    Unfortunately, it seems like these days money will buy you anything- even the presidency.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    CM189191 said:
    Starbucks Coffee celebrated the opening of his 100th Russian branch in Tuesday
    https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/8-facts-to-celebrate-100-starbucks-in-russia-48880
    I lol'd at work when I saw this post.  I legitimately don't think it's a likely concern like Trump's Russion connections, but it's funny. You can't make this shit up.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Will coffee be free?
    you couldn't pay me to drink over-roasted over-brewed over-priced starbucks

    seriously, gas station coffee has come a long way in the last decade and way cheaper

    usually i just brew my own at home in the morning.  french press only takes 4 minutes.
    Silly me!  I forgot it was Star*ucks.  Totally agree- that stuff is nasty!  Give me Pete's or better yet, Jeremiah's Pick!
    Hmmm I like Starbucks. I find gas station coffee to be awful. Pete’s is good too. I like over roasted coffee apparently. 
    For my first time in about ten years, I quit coffee six or seven weeks ago. Unbelievable the positive impact it's had on me.
    Bravo!  I've quit coffee a few times... for a few days.  

    What are the benefits for you, Ben?
    I used to get into what I called the 'energy hole'... first you get the high, then you get the crash. That's completely gone since coffee. I'm stabilized and not fading for far longer days than ever before, I feel less irritable, I used to get chronic headaches and it's been ages since I've had one now, my mind feels more engaged, and I feel more focused. Was a really good move for me. The first week is definitely hard though. After that, no headaches, no problems.
    Sounds like a smart move.  I've been dealing with migraines lately and have been told coffee helps.  But maybe that's going the wrong way!

    rgambs said:
    No thanks on the billionaires.
    Unfortunately, it seems like these days money will buy you anything- even the presidency.
    I don’t have a problem with billionaires. Just ones that never ran a real company with a board and share holders.  That’s a deal breaker for me.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited January 2019
    Doctors say up to 4 cups (not, that doesn't mean 4 talls or grandes. 4 old fashioned cups) is actually specifically good for you. But I understand coffee addiction. I had one in university. But I beat it. For years I've only had 1 cup in the morning and that's it, and in 2019 I've gone down to no cups, but not because I really want to, and definitely not because I think it's healthy too. It's just because it saves me time in the morning to not make and drink it, which means 5 more minutes of sleep. :lol: At this point, any coffee is a yummy treat for me! When I do have that occasional treaty double long Americano (usually from Starbucks, which I love shamelessly), I'm in heaven!
    (I have no idea why coffee is being spoken about in this thread btw - I just went on a tangent when I saw it mentioned, lol)
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    The more I see of this the more I think he wants to help Trump win; not because he likes him but because of the potential impact on his taxes.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    The more I see of this the more I think he wants to help Trump win; not because he likes him but because of the potential impact on his taxes.
    Me thinks the same.
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    Funky!  I love it!
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2019
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,823
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
  • mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Just more BS. Next thing you know BS will be telling us of all the brilliant brilliance of brilliancy, repubs taking the reigns for generations, disappearing headlines and fruit from the poisonous tree.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,823
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
    Can’t. Democratic Party is irreparable. It’s a party of grievances not solutions.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.

    ".... over the infanticide"?

    Nice hyperbole. There's no infanticide. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,823
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
    Can’t. Democratic Party is irreparable. It’s a party of grievances not solutions.
    Says the supporter of the party of white grievance...
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    In what way does one condemn Israel's actions while still not presenting as an anti-Semite? I ask this as a Jew who's tired of being ostracized by fellow Jewish people (and ironically being coined an anti-Semite) for daring to criticize the "holy land".  Also, if the DNC is the problem worth focusing on, what is the solution you're proposing?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Jeez, and they say we are the ones with TDS? 
    Infanticide? Venezuela?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.

    ".... over the infanticide"?

    Nice hyperbole. There's no infanticide. 
    The GOP is stop putting children in cages and separating them from there families however.

    But but but the dem party wants infanticide....

    Project much BS? 🙄
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
    Can’t. Democratic Party is irreparable. It’s a party of grievances not solutions.


    Yes.... Look at that list of grievances
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    benjs said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    In what way does one condemn Israel's actions while still not presenting as an anti-Semite? I ask this as a Jew who's tired of being ostracized by fellow Jewish people (and ironically being coined an anti-Semite) for daring to criticize the "holy land".  Also, if the DNC is the problem worth focusing on, what is the solution you're proposing?
    The Democratic party embraces Farrakhan therefore it embraces anti-semitism. It embraces BDS therefore it embraces anti-semitism. Criticizing Israel for it’s policies is not anti-semitic. I know you understand this.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.

    ".... over the infanticide"?

    Nice hyperbole. There's no infanticide. 
    The GOP is stop putting children in cages and separating them from there families however.

    But but but the dem party wants infanticide....

    Project much BS? 🙄
    The GOP is separating children from possible sex traffickers and trying to return these children to their parents. The Democratic party is passing bills allowing for infanticide. Governor hooded/blackface/breakdancer who is a pediatric neurologist made it quite clear.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
    Can’t. Democratic Party is irreparable. It’s a party of grievances not solutions.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.

    ".... over the infanticide"?

    Nice hyperbole. There's no infanticide. 
    The GOP is stop putting children in cages and separating them from there families however.

    But but but the dem party wants infanticide....

    Project much BS? 🙄
    The GOP is separating children from possible sex traffickers and trying to return these children to their parents. The Democratic party is passing bills allowing for infanticide. Governor hooded/blackface/breakdancer who is a pediatric neurologist made it quite clear.
    It takes a special type of deliberate and malignant misunderstanding to call that infanticide. 
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  • BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.

    ".... over the infanticide"?

    Nice hyperbole. There's no infanticide. 
    The GOP is stop putting children in cages and separating them from there families however.

    But but but the dem party wants infanticide....

    Project much BS? 🙄
    The GOP is separating children from possible sex traffickers and trying to return these children to their parents. The Democratic party is passing bills allowing for infanticide. Governor hooded/blackface/breakdancer who is a pediatric neurologist made it quite clear.
    It takes a special type of deliberate and malignant misunderstanding to call that infanticide. 
    I’d say ignorance as well.
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  • BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    In what way does one condemn Israel's actions while still not presenting as an anti-Semite? I ask this as a Jew who's tired of being ostracized by fellow Jewish people (and ironically being coined an anti-Semite) for daring to criticize the "holy land".  Also, if the DNC is the problem worth focusing on, what is the solution you're proposing?
    The Democratic party embraces Farrakhan therefore it embraces anti-semitism. It embraces BDS therefore it embraces anti-semitism. Criticizing Israel for it’s policies is not anti-semitic. I know you understand this.
    You mean like repubs embrace Team Trump Treason? Not even close. Do you call Jews who criticize Israel anti-semites?

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,823
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Today’s New York Times shows why a centrist candidate is needed now more then ever...



    The Democratic Party...racism, anti-semitism and a solid dose of cultural appropriation. Add to that infanticide and socialism and it becomes quite clear why other options are necessary.

    Time for the Dems to step aside so as not to hand the election to Trump.
    So an entire party should step aside and not run a candidate so that Trump doesn't win.  WTF does that even mean?  Second, Northam has been isolated by his entire party over this.  ALL OF THEM.  The Republicans ran a candidate against Northam who was openly racist.  How does that make the Democrats the part of racism?  Cognitive dissonance analysis here.
    Northam was not isolated over the infanticide...just the yearbook photo. As per the New York Times the Democratic Party has massive underlying problems. Centrists like Bloomberg and Schultz are being shoved aside as the party careens to the extreme left. Ending private insurance, embracing BDS, 70-90% tax rates, spending into oblivian, the defense of Maduro. Venezuela is what the Democratic party wants...unless they uncover a Maduro yearbook photo I suppose. The smart way to beat Trump is to not split the vote.   Schultz can win head to head.
    Then he should run as a Democrat if he can win.  It's pretty simple. 
    Can’t. Democratic Party is irreparable. It’s a party of grievances not solutions.
    Says the supporter of the party of white grievance...
    I only know one party...and that is freedom.
    What a douche statement.  Im a Democrat.  So I embrace Farrakhan ergo i'm hate the Jews?  You sound like a wounded animal lashing out because you really can read the tea leaves regarding the president you support.
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