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https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/hawaii-rep-tulsi-gabbard-running-president-2020/story?id=60323392

I admit that, until a few months ago, I had no idea who Gabbard was.  I saw her on MTP or something similar and she is impressive.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,762
    I like her
    But I know that most of America has no idea how to deal with someone like her.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    She's young....probably too young for 2020 but she will make a big impression I believe.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    guess I'll wait and see the response from that community first.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    She regrets it and has done a bunch since then to promote LGBTQ movements.  I don't follow her that closely so someone that does can tell us more about that.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    mickeyrat said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    guess I'll wait and see the response from that community first.
    Definitely. Me, too. Obama and Hillary were both a little late in getting to marriage equality and LGBTQ rights, so there is no reason to think this will tank Gabbard. Everything she's done recently (which is more important) shows she's an advocate. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,024
    Rolling Stone isn't exactly putting her in a good light:

    Tulsi Gabbard’s 2020 Campaign May Be Over Before It Starts

    The congresswoman from Hawaii’s past is filled with anti-LGBTQ activism, calls for bombing Syria and endorsing torture
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tulsi-gabbards-2020-president-778512/



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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    jeffbr said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    guess I'll wait and see the response from that community first.
    Definitely. Me, too. Obama and Hillary were both a little late in getting to marriage equality and LGBTQ rights, so there is no reason to think this will tank Gabbard. Everything she's done recently (which is more important) shows she's an advocate. 
    I think most dems in the early 2000s switched from being anti- to pro-gay marriage because the winds changed.  There's some legitimate evolution that occurred...in the late 1990s, I don't think many people even thought of gay marriage as a potential thing.  That said, most of those people were not active in leading protests against it.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,024
    OnWis97 said:
    jeffbr said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    guess I'll wait and see the response from that community first.
    Definitely. Me, too. Obama and Hillary were both a little late in getting to marriage equality and LGBTQ rights, so there is no reason to think this will tank Gabbard. Everything she's done recently (which is more important) shows she's an advocate. 
    I think most dems in the early 2000s switched from being anti- to pro-gay marriage because the winds changed.  There's some legitimate evolution that occurred...in the late 1990s, I don't think many people even thought of gay marriage as a potential thing.  That said, most of those people were not active in leading protests against it.
    Yeah, I can see some people might be on the fence about gay marriage (although I never was, I'm cool with it) but when someone actively protesting it, that says something.  I'm sure it's possible for someone to evolve away from homophobia but do I want to support someone with a past track record of what I see as blatant homophobia?  No way.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    edited January 2019
    brianlux said:
    Rolling Stone isn't exactly putting her in a good light:

    Tulsi Gabbard’s 2020 Campaign May Be Over Before It Starts

    The congresswoman from Hawaii’s past is filled with anti-LGBTQ activism, calls for bombing Syria and endorsing torture
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tulsi-gabbards-2020-president-778512/



     She's  military.  Major in  National Guard for Hawaii. I expect many members of our armed forces held or hold the same views in regards to torture. Personally I think its beneath the ideals on the brochure. But I can understand how those on the front lines would have a different stance than I.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Only 37 years old.  Too young in my opinion.  I want some grey hairs for that job, just like I would prefer on a doctor that was going to perform open surgery on me ... not that that really is a prerequisite for POTUS.  Is she a soulless megalomaniac?  That seemed to be the prerequisite for our last two major party choices.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    in conventional times this would hurt her. the funny thing is the GOP is unable to attack her for this because they are anti-lgbtq rights themselves. they would look like huge hypocrites going after her on that issue. i have a feeling that purist democrats will eat her alive on this issue.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's also going to have to overcome her past a little bit. I'm all for evolving (I've done the same), so I can look past of this. But these kinds of things will pop up if they exist in one's past. 

    Gabbard worked for anti-LGBTQ group run by her father: report


    in conventional times this would hurt her. the funny thing is the GOP is unable to attack her for this because they are anti-lgbtq rights themselves. they would look like huge hypocrites going after her on that issue. i have a feeling that purist democrats will eat her alive on this issue.
    She has to make it through a primary. No way she does.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
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  • Asterisk on the StreetAsterisk on the Street Posts: 834
    She voted "Present" on both Articles of Impeachment. WTF?
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,138
    She’s going to run third with the message that the Democrat process is unfair.  She’s probably a Trump/Russian asset.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,524
    She should just go away for good 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    josevolution said:
    She should just go away for good 
    +1

    She's not running for president.

    she's auditioning to be a talking head on fox news

    "....and now we turn to former Democratic Presidential candidate Tulsi G for her opinion on...."

    Tulsi : "Both sides are bad!  Present!"
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    OnWis97 said:
    She’s going to run third with the message that the Democrat process is unfair.  She’s probably a Trump/Russian asset.
    Probably?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,524
    dignin said:
    OnWis97 said:
    She’s going to run third with the message that the Democrat process is unfair.  She’s probably a Trump/Russian asset.
    Probably?
    Yep I bet she’s on his payroll 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Yeah, I liked her for a minute earlier in the yar, especially her take down of Harris, but she definitely has her own agenda. I can't read her and don't trust her.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,524
    Just this Friday 
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095

    I appreciate her willingness to stand up to the military industrial complex, standing against regime change wars, and being a voice for peace. She consistently talks about country over party, healing the divide, and bringing people together. Thats the message I hear when I listen to her. I personally don’t think she’ll run third party, but I guess I’m just taking her at her word. 

    I also respect her service to our country. I could have joined the service, but didn’t. I watch the wars from the comfort of my living room , while she put her life on the line. 

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Hi! said:

    I appreciate her willingness to stand up to the military industrial complex, standing against regime change wars, and being a voice for peace. She consistently talks about country over party, healing the divide, and bringing people together. Thats the message I hear when I listen to her. I personally don’t think she’ll run third party, but I guess I’m just taking her at her word. 

    I also respect her service to our country. I could have joined the service, but didn’t. I watch the wars from the comfort of my living room , while she put her life on the line. 

    I also appreciate she was raised in a cult
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    I’m Canadian but pay attention to world politics. Gabbard seems like she is in the the wrong party to me.  Her rhetoric reminds me of Republican sentiment. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    Asterisk on the Street said:
    She voted "Present" on both Articles of Impeachment. WTF?
    Yeah....I'm not so impressed anymore.  

    Her statement was "I could not in good conscience vote against impeachment because I believe President Trump is guilty of wrongdoing."

    He's guilty of wrongdoing....that would be a yes vote.  That it just so happens to be on partisan lines is irrelevant if he is guilty.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    tulsi sealed her fate last night. bye felicia.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    tulsi sealed her fate last night. bye felicia.
    Or dasvidaniya. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,024
    Maybe it's too much Maui Woowie.  Tusli is barely "present".
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