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Edrock78Edrock78 Posts: 167
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Does anyone know who picks the shows that they release? Just asking because I know for a fact there are plenty of shows the band has played that are a million times better than the stuff thats getting released. I heard the new Vault #8 show and its mediocre at best. At this point I'd love for them to release a "classic" show (i.e. Atlanta 94, Randalls Island 96, MSG 98.etc.) but then I'd be worried it would be incomplete for some reason. I love the sound and the packaging of these records, hopefully the next release will be a great performance as well.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    I think I read an article where jeff said he was going through shows for it
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,680
    I actually dont want the classic shows like Atlanta 94, Berlin 96 released.  So many random great shows during the 90s.  I want a different Europe 96 show or maybe an Australian 98 show (not 3/5/98)
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    cp3iverson said: hu
    I actually dont want the classic shows like Atlanta 94, Berlin 96 released.  So many random great shows during the 90s.  I want a different Europe 96 show or maybe an Australian 98 show (not 3/5/98)
    Agree
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • PB11041PB11041 Posts: 2,805
    Edrock78 said:
    Does anyone know who picks the shows that they release? Just asking because I know for a fact there are plenty of shows the band has played that are a million times better than the stuff thats getting released. I heard the new Vault #8 show and its mediocre at best. At this point I'd love for them to release a "classic" show (i.e. Atlanta 94, Randalls Island 96, MSG 98.etc.) but then I'd be worried it would be incomplete for some reason. I love the sound and the packaging of these records, hopefully the next release will be a great performance as well.
    You can count on most shows prior to 2000 being incomplete.  The band and Brett Eliason have stated as much.  Not by choice, just by circumstance.  MSG night 2 98 would be awesome even if incomplete.  The thing is I don't believe they could fit that show onto 3 LPs without cutting some portions of it.  Randall's Island Night 1 would be worth getting on vault because there are no good audience sources to really speak of at all.  Night 2 I don't see ever coming out unless heavily edited.  In addition, there was some unfortunate foreshadowing of what would happen at Roskilde a few years later, I don't know the band would feel great about that release. There are very good complete audience recordings of that show. 

    Definite NO to any of the massively circulated pre-FM bootlegs.  
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  • Edrock78Edrock78 Posts: 167
    cp3iverson said:
    I actually dont want the classic shows like Atlanta 94, Berlin 96 released.  So many random great shows during the 90s.  I want a different Europe 96 show or maybe an Australian 98 show (not 3/5/98)
    I can agree with that. The reason I said the classic shows is because we know they’re complete and great. Europe 96 would be awesome.
  • brolocobroloco Posts: 1,237
    Would love a '95 Asia show...or '98 Aussie show
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    broloco said:
    Would love a '95 Asia show...or '98 Aussie show
    Smart person here
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    Asia/Australia 95/98 and 
    anything 96 would be perfect. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,640
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    edited January 2019
    The thing that's a bit "stale" about Pearl Jams live releases (compared to other artists) is that they pretty much kept the same format and layout of songs since the beginning. The shows have gotten longer, the songs more etc. But except for the first few tours their shows are pretty similar.

    Compared to other artists - like e.g. Neil Young who's been mixing up how to do concerts through his career. He's played acoustic and electric, and he's done some tours where he's implemented some unique elements. Even something like using a choir for a tour etc.

    So what I'm saying is -- RERELEASE BENAROYA!
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas '93 and Soldier Field '95 come to mind as there were already great quality bootlegs of these shows in circulation.
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The thing that's a bit "stale" about Pearl Jams live releases (compared to other artists) is that they pretty much kept the same format and layout of songs since the beginning. The shows have gotten longer, the songs more etc. But except for the first few tours their shows are pretty similar.

    Compared to other artists - like e.g. Neil Young who's been mixing up how to do concerts through his career. He's played acoustic and electric, and he's done some tours where he's implemented some unique elements. Even something like using a choir for a tour etc.

    So what I'm saying is -- RERELEASE BENAROYA!
    For vinyl lovers? Sure. 
    For me? Not worth it.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas '93 and Soldier Field '95 come to mind as there were already great quality bootlegs of these shows in circulation.
    Oh, Vegas 93. Do not even remember that getting the Vault-treatment...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas '93 and Soldier Field '95 come to mind as there were already great quality bootlegs of these shows in circulation.
    Oh, Vegas 93. Do not even remember that getting the Vault-treatment...
    I think it was #5??
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas '93 and Soldier Field '95 come to mind as there were already great quality bootlegs of these shows in circulation.
    Those are the two I listen to least.  I'm still pissed that solider field is incomplete. that version of blood on vinyl would have been siiiiiick.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,640
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,680
    Vegas appeared to be an F U to the bootleggers who were about to release a Vegas 93 LP. 

    The best Vault is LA 98.  Complete surprise. Great show
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    cp3iverson said:
    Vegas appeared to be an F U to the bootleggers who were about to release a Vegas 93 LP. 

    The best Vault is LA 98.  Complete surprise. Great show
    Agreed. I like how Bruce does a good mix between legendary shows as releasss but also ones that flew under the radar for his vault shows every month. 
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  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,073
    I was suprised they picked the Missoula show for the vault release...it’s a good show but not really on par with the other vaults. It should have been my first show but for reasons I don’t remember I didn’t go , was just getting into the band at the time.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    cp3iverson said:
    Vegas appeared to be an F U to the bootleggers who were about to release a Vegas 93 LP. 


    They already released it in the bandcamp days. It was an easy release  just max out the levels call it a day 🙄
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    cp3iverson said:
    Vegas appeared to be an F U to the bootleggers who were about to release a Vegas 93 LP. 

    The best Vault is LA 98.  Complete surprise. Great show
    Those two '98 Vault releases are my favourites by far.
  • PB11041PB11041 Posts: 2,805
    mcgruff10 said:
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas '93 and Soldier Field '95 come to mind as there were already great quality bootlegs of these shows in circulation.
    Those are the two I listen to least.  I'm still pissed that solider field is incomplete. that version of blood on vinyl would have been siiiiiick.
    The doubly disappointing thing was, they have a high quality source, so while I get not pressing that non multi track source on vinyl, why the hell release at as an MP3!?!?!?!?
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  • PB11041PB11041 Posts: 2,805
    RS151862 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
    Bellingham?  It had two tracks released across the Light Years singles variations.  That was a good release.  While there has always been a very nice audience recording available for that show, that is a very good Vault release.

    Soldier Field was nice because it was upgrade off the tinny and shallow MONO-FM releases.  It was a huge bummer that it was incomplete.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    ledvedderman said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Vegas appeared to be an F U to the bootleggers who were about to release a Vegas 93 LP. 

    The best Vault is LA 98.  Complete surprise. Great show
    Agreed. I like how Bruce does a good mix between legendary shows as releasss but also ones that flew under the radar for his vault shows every month. 
    Bruce releaseses one every month? And on vinyl?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    PB11041 said:
    RS151862 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
    Bellingham?  It had two tracks released across the Light Years singles variations.  That was a good release.  While there has always been a very nice audience recording available for that show, that is a very good Vault release.

    Soldier Field was nice because it was upgrade off the tinny and shallow MONO-FM releases.  It was a huge bummer that it was incomplete.  
    I have a hard time with incomplete shows. They should pick something else to release if a show has to be incomplete IMO.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,640
    edited January 2019
    PB11041 said:
    RS151862 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
    Bellingham?  It had two tracks released across the Light Years singles variations.  That was a good release.  While there has always been a very nice audience recording available for that show, that is a very good Vault release.

    Soldier Field was nice because it was upgrade off the tinny and shallow MONO-FM releases.  It was a huge bummer that it was incomplete.  
    Bellingham was played years ago on Sirius radio when the PJ channel launched. People recorded it, and it’s been available on PJ bootleg sites since.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    This is why they should relase Copenhagen 2007. No one has heard that!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PB11041PB11041 Posts: 2,805
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    RS151862 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
    Bellingham?  It had two tracks released across the Light Years singles variations.  That was a good release.  While there has always been a very nice audience recording available for that show, that is a very good Vault release.

    Soldier Field was nice because it was upgrade off the tinny and shallow MONO-FM releases.  It was a huge bummer that it was incomplete.  
    I have a hard time with incomplete shows. They should pick something else to release if a show has to be incomplete IMO.
    if they went this route you are not getting anything prior to 2000 most likely then.  Even 9.19.98 is technically incomplete.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,163
    PB11041 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    RS151862 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    RS151862 said:
    I worry that they’ll just go for another easy release and do Berlin 96. 
    Which releases have been "easy releases" ?
    Vegas, bellingham, soldier field and Missoula all had been previously mixed and released in some form. To me the idea of the vault is to release an rare gem that wasn’t widely available. 
    Bellingham?  It had two tracks released across the Light Years singles variations.  That was a good release.  While there has always been a very nice audience recording available for that show, that is a very good Vault release.

    Soldier Field was nice because it was upgrade off the tinny and shallow MONO-FM releases.  It was a huge bummer that it was incomplete.  
    I have a hard time with incomplete shows. They should pick something else to release if a show has to be incomplete IMO.
    if they went this route you are not getting anything prior to 2000 most likely then. 
    Based on what?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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