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  • static111
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    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech.  Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
    Twitter used to be so much better than FB. It started getting worse a year or so ago and now it seems to be going down the tubes.
    I will counter that it was never better, just that you perceived it to be.  It is the same thing it always was.  Nothing has changed since but the owner, the previous owners were just better at concealing how putrid it really is. Social media will be the death of western society.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    static111 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech.  Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
    Twitter used to be so much better than FB. It started getting worse a year or so ago and now it seems to be going down the tubes.
    I will counter that it was never better, just that you perceived it to be.  It is the same thing it always was.  Nothing has changed since but the owner, the previous owners were just better at concealing how putrid it really is. Social media will be the death of western society.
    I got banned a few times... Once for calling Jill Stein an "old sea hag". Definitely stricter than FB
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  • jpgoegel
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    rotting pinata reference gets an A+, super album!
  • lindamarie73
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    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    static111 said:
    I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech.  Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
    Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played 

    Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich. 
    Well someone has got to throw some reality every once in a while at this safe space of hypocrisy and silliness.   Carry on….
  • mickeyrat
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    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

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  • mickeyrat
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    To be very clear, free speech is when you give me money  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/30/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech-money/ 

     Opinion | To be very clear, free speech is when you give me money

    Opinion by Alexandra Petri

    November 30, 2022 at 7:00 ET

    “This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead.”
    — Elon Musk, on Twitter, the social media site he owns
    Free speech is dying!
    If you don’t pay me money for my product, that means that this great country is wrecked! Wrecked on the shoals of oppression and political correctness!
    Free speech is when you pay me money for goods or services. That’s free speech. When you do not give me money, that is censorship. Every second that you spend not paying me money for my services is another arrow stuck into the craw of liberty. Ah, liberty bleeds, and I weep for her! Please give me thousands of dollars; it is the only thing that can save her. Even if you must give them to me in small increments of $8 at a time, that is better than nothing. I believe that if you give me enough money (speech), we can still rescue this godforsaken country!
    You might have thought that free speech was when a corporation gave a lot of money to a politician. This is a very, very important form of free speech, and it is getting freer all the time! But that is certainly not the only kind of speech you can make. Just as important is when you take your small-dollar amounts and press them into the hands of a billionaire, or when an advertiser does the same thing with a larger dollar amount.
    No, I am not taking advantage of you. I am offering to give you a voice. It is very sad that you are letting liberty die because you are refusing to give me your wallet. I can’t believe you hate free speech so much!
    Oh, okay, I see where there may be some slight confusion: There is the word “free,” right there, at the start of “free speech.” It almost sounds as though you didn’t need to pay for it! But this is a common misunderstanding. This is free as in “buy one, get one,” the kind of free that is only free if you have made a purchase first.
    Why I remember when our Founders, our brave Founders, fought so strongly and so bravely for free speech. Benjamin Franklin stood there begging and beseeching the business owners of his day to put their advertisements in his Poor Richard’s Almanac. Everyone knew then as they know today that the only true free speech is when you pay somebody money to run advertisements for your business. The Bill of Rights is absolutely clear about this. Why do you think it is called a bill if not because rights require somebody to pay money to somebody else?!
    And the people who do not have money? What of them? As though they had anything to say!

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  • Merkin Baller
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    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.


    Pesky details. 
  • static111
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    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

    free market is speaking..   
    Did anyone say that people here were calling for the government to get involved?
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  • The Juggler
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    lindamarie73 said:
    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    static111 said:
    I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech.  Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
    Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played 

    Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich. 
    Well someone has got to throw some reality every once in a while at this safe space of hypocrisy and silliness.   Carry on….
    It's just been such an entertaining last few weeks....just as you predicted back before the election. Nostradamus over here!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.


    Pesky details. 
    Pesky facts, I think you meant?
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  • mickeyrat
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    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

    free market is speaking..   
    Did anyone say that people here were calling for the government to get involved?

    that was the inference. Aside from the articles I share here, I am not up on that shit, so haven't heard that anywhere. IF true. I wonder what the age grouping is those calling for it.
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  • static111
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    edited December 2022
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

    free market is speaking..   
    Did anyone say that people here were calling for the government to get involved?

    that was the inference. Aside from the articles I share here, I am not up on that shit, so haven't heard that anywhere. IF true. I wonder what the age grouping is those calling for it.
    Millenials. People that regularly use and love twitter. I hope twitter dies.
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  • mickeyrat
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    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

    free market is speaking..   
    Did anyone say that people here were calling for the government to get involved?

    that was the inference. Aside from the articles I share here, I am not up on that shit, so haven't heard that anywhere. IF true. I wonder what the age grouping is those calling for it.
    Millenials. People that regularly use and love twitter. I hope twitter dies.

    free market is speaking. consent decree, apple flexing in the app store, musk being musk....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    “Influencer.” But I thought social media couldn’t influence anything or anyone , like who to vote for, as an example?

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  • Lerxst1992
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    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.

    free market is speaking..   
    Did anyone say that people here were calling for the government to get involved?

    that was the inference. Aside from the articles I share here, I am not up on that shit, so haven't heard that anywhere. IF true. I wonder what the age grouping is those calling for it.


    Wait. What?

    You share articles here??
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,533
    Elon banned Kanye from twitter.  See, He's not all that bad.
  • Gern Blansten
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Elon banned Kanye from twitter.  See, He's not all that bad.
    so much for freedumb of speech
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  • The Juggler
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    It's temporary
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  • tbergs
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    Can we just stop giving Kanye and Trump any attention. They're shitty people. Before social media, these fucks would have faded in to oblivion.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • lindamarie73
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    tbergs said:
    Can we just stop giving Kanye and Trump any attention. They're shitty people. Before social media, these fucks would have faded in to oblivion.

     

    Are you kidding??? What the heck would y’all talk about not having the orange man to talk about.  Everything on here always reverts back to that guy.  Y’all would lose my Interest if the obsession stopped, it’s excellent entertainment…and I don’t even like the guy.  

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