Elon Musk

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,737
    BMW i series look good.  
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    They gotta be more problematic nazi-wise than a Musk vehicle 😉
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    They gotta be more problematic nazi-wise than a Musk vehicle 😉
    Are you saying Oliver Zipse is an anti-semite like Musk? 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,737
    I think DE is referencing Berlin Motor Werks making engines in WWII
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    Forced labor of POW's and concentration camp inmates type of problematic.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    Forced labor of POW's and concentration camp inmates type of problematic.
    I was pointing out another logical fail where something from 80 years ago is samesies to present time. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    I would imagine it's worse, regardless of the time difference.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    I would imagine it's worse, regardless of the time difference.
    It’s not a 1:1 comparison when you’re talking about present time company boycotts. If you want to pull in history you’re not going to be consuming much or traveling much. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    edited August 22
    I respect your opinion. We disagree and that's okay .
    🤜🤛
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    I respect your opinion. We disagree and that's okay .
    🤜🤛
    It’s kind of like saying the country of Germany itself is still the same entity it was in ww2. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    edited August 22
    No. No it's not. At all.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    No. No it's not. At all.
    Okay. Then how is 2025 BMW the same as ww2 era BMW? And does this include their US manufacturing plant in South Carolina? Also, Henry Ford was a total jagoff, so is Ford included in the boycott? 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    Tangentially related, but if you want to read about another beloved company with an awful history, find a book called IBM and the Holocaust. 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    I'm rereading my posts and I'm not seeing the call to boycott BMW (and now Ford).  I'm not anti-Tesla or BMW (or now Ford). I don't believe two different things need to be "the same" to be bad or have an expiration date on those bad things.





    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    I'm rereading my posts and I'm not seeing the call to boycott BMW (and now Ford).  I'm not anti-Tesla or BMW (or now Ford). I don't believe two different things need to be "the same" to be bad or have an expiration date on those bad things.





    The boycott issue was introduced prior to that. So how does 2025 BMW compare to 2025 Musk regarding “problematic” issues? 

  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,985
    You are making an argument up in your head rather than based on comments I've posted. 🤷‍♂️
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    DE4173 said:
    You are making an argument up in your head rather than based on comments I've posted. 🤷‍♂️
    Big sigh. “Gotta be more problematic nazi wise than a Musk vehicle” is present tense. It’s very rare for someone to associate current BMW with ww2 BMW. It’s not rare to associate 2025 Musk with Tesla, since he’s the current ceo. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Go Beavers said:
    DE4173 said:
    No. No it's not. At all.
    Okay. Then how is 2025 BMW the same as ww2 era BMW? And does this include their US manufacturing plant in South Carolina? Also, Henry Ford was a total jagoff, so is Ford included in the boycott? 
    First of all - I have a BMW and love it.

    Second of all - I applaud your use of Jagoff.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    cincybearcat said:
    Go Beavers said:
    DE4173 said:
    No. No it's not. At all.
    Okay. Then how is 2025 BMW the same as ww2 era BMW? And does this include their US manufacturing plant in South Carolina? Also, Henry Ford was a total jagoff, so is Ford included in the boycott? 
    First of all - I have a BMW and love it.

    Second of all - I applaud your use of Jagoff.
    I’m originally from the Midwest, and no one out west says it. I miss it - it reminds me of my Chicago friends. 

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