Canada arrests Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Canada arrests Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canada-has-arrested-huaweis-global-chief-financial-officer-in/

This should get real interesting.  Canada caught in the middle of the two largest economies.  I expect retaliation from China.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    You Canadians have a very weird way of spelling Hawaii.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    CM189191 said:
    That is because Trump would have blabbed and ruined the plan.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    CM189191 said:
    That is because Trump would have blabbed and ruined the plan.
    No, because he doesn’t read, doesn’t want to know and currently has the D team working on getting to the E Team in charge. The justice Department was working on this for months and months and revolves around the transfer of US technology to Iran. As they say, “timing is everything.” Except when a clueless Team Trump Treason is in charge. And Sexy Rexy is as dumb as a rock. Suckers.
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  • Meltdown99
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    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
    There is no way we can allow them to be involved with our 5G network...
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  • Meltdown99
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    China calls the detention of a Huawei executive "unreasonable, unconscionable, and vile in nature" and warns of "grave consequences" if she isn't released.

    Amazing countries are banning this company from their 5G networks, yet Trudeau can't make the same commitment...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
    There is no way we can allow them to be involved with our 5G network...
      No. Canada better hurry the fuck up and ban it. It's making me nervous that it's not already been done.
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    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
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  • Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
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    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
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  • Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
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    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
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  • Meltdown99
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    She still is sitting in jail.  
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    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    Yeah you don’t see them being kicked out or deported or how about restricting immigrants from China ? But it’s the rock throwers from Central America that are the real threat ...
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  • Meltdown99
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    Former Canadian diplomat detained in China: sources

    https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1OA1EB-OCATP


    The retaliation.  What a fucked up country China is.   
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  • PJ_Soul
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    edited December 2018


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
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  • PJ_Soul said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    What are you missing? The US/Canada have law enforcement agreements. The US requested that Canada detain and extradite Meng to face charges in the US for violating technology/trade embargoes on Iran. If Canada extradites her to the US, she'll face charges in court and be provided an attorney, probably by China. If found innocent by a jury, she'll be released and deported back to China. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced. The US is waiting for the Canadian court system to do its thing. The US is sitting by waiting for it to rule. What would you like the US to do (don't expect Team Trump Treason to do anyhting as he's completely clueless, my apologies on behalf of the American public that didn't vote for the idiot)?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    PJ_Soul said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    What are you missing? The US/Canada have law enforcement agreements. The US requested that Canada detain and extradite Meng to face charges in the US for violating technology/trade embargoes on Iran. If Canada extradites her to the US, she'll face charges in court and be provided an attorney, probably by China. If found innocent by a jury, she'll be released and deported back to China. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced. The US is waiting for the Canadian court system to do its thing. The US is sitting by waiting for it to rule. What would you like the US to do (don't expect Team Trump Treason to do anyhting as he's completely clueless, my apologies on behalf of the American public that didn't vote for the idiot)?
    That's not what I mean. I know all that. What I mean is that I'm missing any news about what the US is saying about this Chinese "retaliation". What are they saying in support of Canada? Are they even talking to Canada about this aspect of the situation? I've not seen anything about it. Of course, what do I expect with Trump at the helm??
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  • Meltdown99
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    PJ_Soul said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    Your concerns are valid.  What are the police doing to shut down the money laundering?  With China, you are not dealing with rational people, this is how they react.  There is nothing Trudeau can do, the Americans filed an extradition request ... as far as I understand we are obligated to extradite.  I think if the judge were to deny her bail, she'd let herself get extradited ... it can 2 years to get a hearing, doubt she wants to sit in jail for 2 years, just to be extradited anyways...if she gets bail, she be in China within 2 days.  I have very little faith they we will keep her here.  I doubt this a big story in the US.  They should be banned from the 5G network.
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