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Canada arrests Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canada-has-arrested-huaweis-global-chief-financial-officer-in/

This should get real interesting.  Canada caught in the middle of the two largest economies.  I expect retaliation from China.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    You Canadians have a very weird way of spelling Hawaii.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    CM189191 said:

    That is because Trump would have blabbed and ruined the plan.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    PJ_Soul said:
    CM189191 said:

    That is because Trump would have blabbed and ruined the plan.
    No, because he doesn’t read, doesn’t want to know and currently has the D team working on getting to the E Team in charge. The justice Department was working on this for months and months and revolves around the transfer of US technology to Iran. As they say, “timing is everything.” Except when a clueless Team Trump Treason is in charge. And Sexy Rexy is as dumb as a rock. Suckers.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
    There is no way we can allow them to be involved with our 5G network...
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    China calls the detention of a Huawei executive "unreasonable, unconscionable, and vile in nature" and warns of "grave consequences" if she isn't released.

    Amazing countries are banning this company from their 5G networks, yet Trudeau can't make the same commitment...
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a big deal... I don't even know what to say about it now. I just want to wait and see how it all shakes out I guess. I di know i am glad that the dangers of that company and 5G technology are really being highlighted and talked about more finally.
    There is no way we can allow them to be involved with our 5G network...
      No. Canada better hurry the fuck up and ban it. It's making me nervous that it's not already been done.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
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    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    She still is sitting in jail.  
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    Yeah you don’t see them being kicked out or deported or how about restricting immigrants from China ? But it’s the rock throwers from Central America that are the real threat ...
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Former Canadian diplomat detained in China: sources

    https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1OA1EB-OCATP


    The retaliation.  What a fucked up country China is.   
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited December 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    What are you missing? The US/Canada have law enforcement agreements. The US requested that Canada detain and extradite Meng to face charges in the US for violating technology/trade embargoes on Iran. If Canada extradites her to the US, she'll face charges in court and be provided an attorney, probably by China. If found innocent by a jury, she'll be released and deported back to China. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced. The US is waiting for the Canadian court system to do its thing. The US is sitting by waiting for it to rule. What would you like the US to do (don't expect Team Trump Treason to do anyhting as he's completely clueless, my apologies on behalf of the American public that didn't vote for the idiot)?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    What are you missing? The US/Canada have law enforcement agreements. The US requested that Canada detain and extradite Meng to face charges in the US for violating technology/trade embargoes on Iran. If Canada extradites her to the US, she'll face charges in court and be provided an attorney, probably by China. If found innocent by a jury, she'll be released and deported back to China. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced. The US is waiting for the Canadian court system to do its thing. The US is sitting by waiting for it to rule. What would you like the US to do (don't expect Team Trump Treason to do anyhting as he's completely clueless, my apologies on behalf of the American public that didn't vote for the idiot)?
    That's not what I mean. I know all that. What I mean is that I'm missing any news about what the US is saying about this Chinese "retaliation". What are they saying in support of Canada? Are they even talking to Canada about this aspect of the situation? I've not seen anything about it. Of course, what do I expect with Trump at the helm??
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    Your concerns are valid.  What are the police doing to shut down the money laundering?  With China, you are not dealing with rational people, this is how they react.  There is nothing Trudeau can do, the Americans filed an extradition request ... as far as I understand we are obligated to extradite.  I think if the judge were to deny her bail, she'd let herself get extradited ... it can 2 years to get a hearing, doubt she wants to sit in jail for 2 years, just to be extradited anyways...if she gets bail, she be in China within 2 days.  I have very little faith they we will keep her here.  I doubt this a big story in the US.  They should be banned from the 5G network.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018

    A telephone call between top negotiators comes despite concern over the arrest of an executive from the Chinese company Huawei.

    A former Canadian envoy disappeared in China, less than a week after Canada arrested a senior Huawei executive.

    U.S. Should Take Notice of Fear After Huawei Executive’s Arrest

    U.S. to condemn China over hacking, economic espionage

    Former Canadian diplomat’s disappearance in China adds new twist to Huawei executive’s detention

    NYT and WaPo.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited December 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Who the fuck goes to a court and does this???  WTF is the matter with people...
    Paid Chinese government operatives who pose as Chinese protesters, pretending they have the right to protest and are free to express themselves, particularly in public.
    It does make you wonder how many Chinese people are here for good intentions and then the ones working for the government...
    They’re taking the long view and slowly taking over the world.
    So true.  Patience.
    It's totally true. It is absolutely their intention to do this. Anyone who doesn't think so is almost impossibly naive. What concerns me is how complacent governments are about it, especially Canada's, and BC's, or at least up until recently... The Chinese managed to buy the BC Liberals. Now that they're out, China is suddenly having a much harder time with their very, very important international money laundering hub of Vancouver. And now this woman is arrested... yes, China is getting antsy about their position in Vancouver. It's a big part of their master plan.
    I'm really quite worried about this whole situation. I'm worried that China's threats are going to work. That Trudeau is going to somehow back down here.... but maybe that would be best. WTF kind of retaliation are we talking about, beyond detaining this ex-diplomat, which is bad enough?????
    And btw, WTF is the USA saying or doing about this???? I'm not seeing anything about that on the news so far. It seems to me that Canada is going through this for the United States, and to me is seems like the US is just sitting back and taking in the show or something. Am I missing some news or what?
    Your concerns are valid.  What are the police doing to shut down the money laundering?  With China, you are not dealing with rational people, this is how they react.  There is nothing Trudeau can do, the Americans filed an extradition request ... as far as I understand we are obligated to extradite.  I think if the judge were to deny her bail, she'd let herself get extradited ... it can 2 years to get a hearing, doubt she wants to sit in jail for 2 years, just to be extradited anyways...if she gets bail, she be in China within 2 days.  I have very little faith they we will keep her here.  I doubt this a big story in the US.  They should be banned from the 5G network.
    I'm not suggesting Trudeau interfere with the legal process of this case. Of course he can't do that. I'm talking about what Trudeau is doing 1) about these threats (I'm sure he's doing something or will), and 2) about the laws involving Chinese finances and purchases in Canada. It's a bad problem.
    In Vancouver the police really can't do much about this terrible money laundering situation. It's the laws and tax loopholes and cracks in the system that allows China to do these things more than anything else. So the new BC NDP government has taken some steps to try and curb it. I.e. new provincial casino regulations that prevent these criminals from laundering their money through the casinos, which was a HUGE problem that the BC Libs chose to COMPLETELY ignore (it's absolutely unreal what the BC Libs let slide for 16 years man - they are corrupt SCUM, without a doubt, and they did nothing to encourage the RCMP to really confront the crisis). They've also dramatically increased taxes for empty homes in Vancouver in an attempt to make laundering through real estate less appealing, but more needs to be done there. And there is more attention being paid to all the corrupt Chinese real estate agents who make it all work too... Shit like that. Plus a major Chinese crime ring (The Big Circle Boys) with ties to the Chinese military and government and are the biggest dealers of Chinese Fentanyl, the profits from which are also laundered through Vancouver real estate deals and illegal Richmond Chinese casinos, has recently been identified after a long police investigation, but that has just broke recently, so we're still waiting to see how that all goes......... Yeah. Vancouver's a total fucking disastrous mess, mostly thanks to China, Chinese criminals, and the recently-ousted BC Liberals. These issues have literally ruined the city, and a massive part of why we're in the midst of a terrible housing affordability crisis too.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    Released on $10MM bail. Does she appear for extradition hearing?
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/former-canadian-diplomat-reported-missing-in-china-following-arrest-of-huawei-executive/2018/12/11/350c6bb8-fcdb-11e8-a17e-162b712e8fc2_story.html?utm_term=.49952cabe8fa&wpisrc=al_news__alert-world--alert-national&wpmk=1

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Huawei's CFO walks free on $10M bail as she awaits extradition proceedings


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/huawei-meng-wanzhou-bail-hearing-vancouver-1.4940849
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited December 2018
    Meltdown99 said:

    RIGHT?!?!
    China. Fuckin' China. I've always wished massive sanctions were places against China until they stop with all the bullshit, but I understand all the reasons why this is an unrealistic hope. It sucks. Too late to turn back now, all because of the unstoppable money and greed of humankind.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    RIGHT?!?!
    China. Fuckin' China. I've always wished massive sanctions were places against China until they stop with all the bullshit, but I understand all the reasons why this is an unrealistic hope. It sucks. Too late to turn back now, all because of the unstoppable money and greed of humankind.
    This gave me hope, Apple said if the tariffs reach 25%, they are leaving China.  I know Apple will not bring the jobs here, but they do have facilities in SA, which is a little better.  Obviously, ideally, it would be nice if they built in NA.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    A second Canadian has been arrested by the Chinese, Does Trudeau not realize, we can also retaliate and should...start by banning them from the 5G network and boycott their products.  I know someone who had their phone, had to go in for repairs 3 times in a year, after the 3rd incident his provider allowed him to swap it for a Samsung, which to this day has never failed.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    And Samsung is not spying on us.  I hope, I have their TV.
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