Team Mueller (and Their Report)

Meltdown99

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

Could Mueller have said, "if I could, I would have charged him with obstruction of justice"?

No, according to the principles of his role. He and others have said that it would be prejudicial to suggest a concern about lawbreaking but not advance a charge, as it does not allow the individual to answer the charge in court. 

That's what I wanted to know.  So basically, he said about as much as he could say...at this point it's up to Congress to impeach and see where that goes.  I'd like to see impeachment hearings held...I am having my doubts though, in February the US Democrats will be in primary thought.  Have to wait and see.  The Dems sure as hell better make sure they get Ginsberg checked thoroughly weekly...imagine Donald getting to appoint a 3rd Supreme Court Judge.

mickeyrat

Meltdown99 said:

Could Mueller have said, "if I could, I would have charged him with obstruction of justice"?

what he said isnt ambiguous. he said that exact thing wothout using those specific words.

to state if we were sure he didnt we'd say so THEN follow that up with a tutorial on the existing mechanism to get him out of office, which if it happened would allow indictment is very clear.

given we havent been here before, I believe its this way by him as a precedent. Its about the rule of law.

Halifax2TheMax

What appears to have been lost in the kerfluffle of the Team Mueller press conference and CYA Barr’s folksy, Walter Brimly interview where he proved he has no soul, are that the judge in Roger Dodger Stoned’s case expressed exasperation at his defense claim that the Team Mueller investigation wasn’t legitimate, that Andrew Miller finally agreed to testify before the grand jury after a year or more of avoidance and the justice Department refused a court order to release the Flynn-Kislyik transcripts, and the judge plays hardball. It all has to make you wonder what they’re hiding. Unless you’re complicit. Haven’t seen much flamboyance from Rodger Dodger Stoned of late. Wonder why?

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

What appears to have been lost in the kerfluffle of the Team Mueller press conference and CYA Barr’s folksy, Walter Brimly interview where he proved he has no soul, are that the judge in Roger Dodger Stoned’s case expressed exasperation at his defense claim that the Team Mueller investigation wasn’t legitimate, that Andrew Miller finally agreed to testify before the grand jury after a year or more of avoidance and the justice Department refused a court order to release the Flynn-Kislyik transcripts, and the judge plays hardball. It all has to make you wonder what they’re hiding. Unless you’re complicit. Haven’t seen much flamboyance from Rodger Dodger Stoned of late. Wonder why?

  doesnt want his bond revoked......

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What appears to have been lost in the kerfluffle of the Team Mueller press conference and CYA Barr’s folksy, Walter Brimly interview where he proved he has no soul, are that the judge in Roger Dodger Stoned’s case expressed exasperation at his defense claim that the Team Mueller investigation wasn’t legitimate, that Andrew Miller finally agreed to testify before the grand jury after a year or more of avoidance and the justice Department refused a court order to release the Flynn-Kislyik transcripts, and the judge plays hardball. It all has to make you wonder what they’re hiding. Unless you’re complicit. Haven’t seen much flamboyance from Rodger Dodger Stoned of late. Wonder why?

  doesnt want his bond revoked......

And more likely, be remanded to jail. Wonder how Paulie manaforte and Michael Cohen are doing, doing time?

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What appears to have been lost in the kerfluffle of the Team Mueller press conference and CYA Barr’s folksy, Walter Brimly interview where he proved he has no soul, are that the judge in Roger Dodger Stoned’s case expressed exasperation at his defense claim that the Team Mueller investigation wasn’t legitimate, that Andrew Miller finally agreed to testify before the grand jury after a year or more of avoidance and the justice Department refused a court order to release the Flynn-Kislyik transcripts, and the judge plays hardball. It all has to make you wonder what they’re hiding. Unless you’re complicit. Haven’t seen much flamboyance from Rodger Dodger Stoned of late. Wonder why?

  doesnt want his bond revoked......

And more likely, be remanded to jail. Wonder how Paulie manaforte and Michael Cohen are doing, doing time?

oh not more likely, judge was explicit thats what would happen

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What appears to have been lost in the kerfluffle of the Team Mueller press conference and CYA Barr’s folksy, Walter Brimly interview where he proved he has no soul, are that the judge in Roger Dodger Stoned’s case expressed exasperation at his defense claim that the Team Mueller investigation wasn’t legitimate, that Andrew Miller finally agreed to testify before the grand jury after a year or more of avoidance and the justice Department refused a court order to release the Flynn-Kislyik transcripts, and the judge plays hardball. It all has to make you wonder what they’re hiding. Unless you’re complicit. Haven’t seen much flamboyance from Rodger Dodger Stoned of late. Wonder why?

  doesnt want his bond revoked......

And more likely, be remanded to jail. Wonder how Paulie manaforte and Michael Cohen are doing, doing time?

oh not more likely, judge was explicit thats what would happen

I would hope someone somewhere is trying to goad him to do something stupid and be remanded to jail for the duration.

njnancy

Last night there was a performance of 'The Investigation' , a dramatic reading of 10 parts of the Mueller Report by known actors (John Lithgow as Trump, Kevin Kline as Mueller and others). It was streamed live by Law Works (lawworksaction.org).

Today Mueller was issued a subpoena when they couldn't come to an agreement and he agreed to appear - July 17th 9AM before the House Intelligence and Judiciary consecutively in OPEN hearings. Then members of his team will appear in closed hearings. 

Between now and July 17th, I predict an increasing insanity in Trump's twitter feed and gaggles. 

Here's the link to 'The Investigation: A Search for the Truth in 10 Acts' , it is excellent....

https://youtu.be/8zUblhfv6GI

The Investigation was written by Robert Schenkkan, a Pulitzer Prize and Tony Award-winning screenwriter and playwright, and the live cast includes Annette Bening, Kevin Kline, John Lithgow, Frederick Weller, Ben Mckenzie, Michael Shannon, Noah Emmerich, Justin Long, Jason Alexander, Gina Gershon, Wilson Cruz, Joel Grey, Alyssa Milano, Kyra Sedgwick, Alfre Woodard, Piper Perabo, Zachary Quinto, and Aidan Quinn, with additional participation by Sigourney Weaver, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Mark Hamill and more.

Halifax2TheMax

Finally finished reading both volumes of the Team Mueller Report. Maybe I should have waited for the graphic version to come out by the author of Black Hawk Down? Anyway, observations to come but don’t take my word for it. Read it.

Spiritual_Chaos

Halifax2TheMax said:

Finally finished reading both volumes of the Team Mueller Report. Maybe I should have waited for the graphic version to come out by the author of Black Hawk Down? Anyway, observations to come but don’t take my word for it. Read it.

Celebs Stage Mueller Report Play 'The Investigation: A Search for the Truth in Ten Acts' | NowThis

 https://youtu.be/jeGZ-xL6FNU

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Finally finished reading both volumes of the Team Mueller Report. Maybe I should have waited for the graphic version to come out by the author of Black Hawk Down? Anyway, observations to come but don’t take my word for it. Read it.

Celebs Stage Mueller Report Play 'The Investigation: A Search for the Truth in Ten Acts' | NowThis

 https://youtu.be/jeGZ-xL6FNU

this was linked DIRECTLY above H2ms post......

Ledbetterman10

"Uh"
"Uh"
"I'll refer you to the report"
"Uh"
"I'll refer you to the report"
"Uh"
"Uh" 
"I'll refer you to the report" 

My boss gives me crap for sometimes prefacing my statements during testimony with "Uh" or "well." I may have to refer her to Muller's testimony today. He does it constantly and he's been doing this for decades. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Is there any entertainment value watching it? Or is it just a bunch of frustrating Jim Jordan nonsense. 

mickeyrat

mifsud, likely under secret indictment still? or not charged due to being an asset or playing both sides?

Ledbetterman10

No entertainment value whatsoever. But it's not about entertainment. It's about connecting dots. And connecting dots is fun! Woot! Woot! 

Jason P

I feel like we could have used the money for this entire investigation to put a woman on the moon in the same timespan and possibly invented a new flavor of Tang. 

Ledbetterman10

Jason P said:

I feel like we could have used the money for this entire investigation to put a woman on the moon in the same timespan and possibly invented a new flavor of Tang. 

In fairness though, the renovation to the fence of around the White House is said to (somehow) cost $64 million, more than twice the amount of this investigation. So there's worst wastes of money. 

mickeyrat

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jason P said:

I feel like we could have used the money for this entire investigation to put a woman on the moon in the same timespan and possibly invented a new flavor of Tang. 

In fairness though, the renovation to the fence of around the White House is said to (somehow) cost $64 million, more than twice the amount of this investigation. So there's worst wastes of money. 

and that fence wont bring asset forfeiture that covers its cost and then some.....

rgambs

Jason P said:

I feel like we could have used the money for this entire investigation to put a woman on the moon in the same timespan and possibly invented a new flavor of Tang. 

I feel like you read this on some wacky right wing forum and didn't think about whether it actually makes sense at all.

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Jason P said:

I feel like we could have used the money for this entire investigation to put a woman on the moon in the same timespan and possibly invented a new flavor of Tang. 

I feel like you read this on some wacky right wing forum and didn't think about whether it actually makes sense at all.