Worst Pearl Jam song ever....

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  • No Coder
    No Coder Brisbane Posts: 1,126
    rummy said:
    I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.
    I've actually always liked I'm Open, but can understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me

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  • No Coder
    No Coder Brisbane Posts: 1,126
    Sleeping by Myself should never have been done by the band. It was fine as an EV song, but it was instantly my least favourite thing they've ever done.  

    There are other songs that I skip regularly, but can still enjoy them when the mood suits. They are mainly the slower songs off the last 2 records, like The End, Future Days, Sirens. I like them, but have to be in the mood to listen to them. Some of these really should be EV solo songs. Sirens  at least has a full band feel to it.

    I liked Can't Deny me when it came out, but heard it for the first time in a while a few days ago and am over it. There's a sound they have gone for on the faster/punkier songs in the last few years (Mind your Manners/Deny Me/ole ) that has very little groove or emotion to it for me.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me

    *BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
    *BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
    *BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
    *QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
    *EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
    *Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
    *EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    rummy said:
    I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.
    seemed like having filler material to avoid the straight "10 song" album was a thing in those days.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    rummy said:
    buck502000 said:
    Let me sleep, it’s Christmas time.
    Especially when it's performed in May (Toronto 2016) or August (Seattle 2018)!

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    I actually like Mankind. Lyrics are nonsense, but they are still many worse songs. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

    /thread
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited June 2019
    Gern Blansten said:
    The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

    /thread
    If you are going to include these four then might as well make it an even "six pack" and include Speed of Sound and Sleeping By Myself.
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited June 2019
    vaggar99 said:
    rummy said:
    I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.
    seemed like having filler material to avoid the straight "10 song" album was a thing in those days.
    I've always thought No Code would have been better if it had been trimmed down to 10 songs...leave Mankind and I'm Open (and maybe Lukin) as b-sides. I know....heresy!

    You can't change history but how great would it have been to get a Who You Are and/or Hail, Hail EP with three or four additional tracks (also taking into account the original b-sides/non-album tracks)? I think these songs would have been more appreciated as non-album tracks.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    rummy said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

    /thread
    If you are going to include these four then might as well make it an even "six pack" and include Speed of Sound and Sleeping By Myself.
    Both SoS and SBM were great before the full band treatment. 

    Id say remove Sirens and even Just Breathe and leave Future Days and The End in the Top. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    I technically wouldn’t count I’m Open as a real song.  Just sounds like someone super high on weed having existential thoughts on the universe while farting around on a guitar in their living room.  I’ve been known to do it from time to time ....
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    How can anyone think the lyrics to Mankind are nonsense?  Those words paint a great narrative picture of the way society behaves in the public eye.  And it was written in a time where likes, clicks, & reblogs weren't even a twinkle in Fuckerberg's eye.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    HesCalledDyer said:
    How can anyone think the lyrics to Mankind are nonsense?  Those words paint a great narrative picture of the way society behaves in the public eye.  And it was written in a time where likes, clicks, & reblogs weren't even a twinkle in Fuckerberg's eye.
    agreed...or I'm Open....great tune
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    rummy said:
    I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.
    I don't think it's their worst, but I really dislike it, because I just really dislike spoken word in general.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited June 2019
    mace1229 said:
    I actually like Mankind. Lyrics are nonsense, but they are still many worse songs. 
    I dig it (and don't think the lyrics are nonsense).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    Mankind was one of the - ONLY - four songs picked by Pearl Jam to put up on youtube from the last tour. So it must be considered some kind of highlight:

    https://youtu.be/A7RnkT-RiAo


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    Wow, I think I'm Open and Mankind are both great and interesting on No Code. I'd put both of them above a lot of the songs on the last couple albums.
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    Wow, I think I'm Open and Mankind are both great and interesting on No Code. I'd put both of them above a lot of the songs on the last couple albums.
    Mankind? Yes. I'm Open? Only if it's live acoustic - and therefore no spoken word part. 
    I think a lot of the songs on the last two albums (along with Ole and maybe CDM) are a given here. With this said, I still think "Pendulum" and "Getaway" are really good tunes and I'm still a sucker for "Unthought Known."
  • Chasing Footsteps
    Chasing Footsteps Posts: 315
    edited July 2019
    Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

    In no particular order:
    - Sirens
    - Unemployable 
    - Infallible
    - Wishlist
    - Cropduster
    - Help Help
    Post edited by Chasing Footsteps on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Chasing Footsteps said:
    Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

    In no particular order:
    - Sirens
    - Unemployable 
    - Infallible
    - Wishlist
    - Cropduster
    - Help Help

    I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Gern Blansten said:
    Chasing Footsteps said:
    Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

    In no particular order:
    - Sirens
    - Unemployable 
    - Infallible
    - Wishlist
    - Cropduster
    - Help Help

    I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane
    i don't get the absolute hate for Sirens.  its a good song.  perhaps a little cheesy on the studio recording, but when played live without all the Brendan Obrien overproduction, it sounds quite good.  much like all of LB.

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